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  1. Mel has visions, that goes without saying. I was thinking Baelish Must have one to be so well informed and ahead of the game.. before PJ implied communication between Baelish and Mance in his recent catspaw vids. He explains that better than I do! I know how controversial he is.
  2. Lol. I read that too. And I explained my thoughts on it in the OP.
  3. Well that is kindof where I'm at. Did Baelish hire an assassin. It was dark and they saw shadows. Also, glamors and reflective armor (like that if the Others) exists in the story. I'm not sure, but I wonder if the angle of the lighting could be a factor. I'm not sure the assassin would kill them too without good reason, orders, or payment. All it would take for the theory to work is evidence of communication between Baelish and Mel, and I don't.We Do have a red temple in Braavos.
  4. What if it was actually Cat and/or Baelish that killed Renly? What do I mean? 1. People whispered it was Catelyn that killed Renly... "Have you ever considered that too many answers are the same as no answer at all? My informers are not always as highly placed as we might like. When a king dies, fancies sprout like mushrooms in the dark. A groom says that Renly was slain by a knight of his own Rainbow Guard. A washerwoman claims Stannis stole through the heart of his brother's army with his magic sword. Several men-at-arms believe a woman did the fell deed, but cannot agree on which woman. A maid that Renly had spurned, claims one. A camp follower brought in to serve his pleasure on the eve of battle, says a second. The third ventures that it might have been the Lady Catelyn Stark." 2. She had motive..she was panicking the brothers would fight each other instead of the real enemy, and told them so. Catelyn said, "Let us hope there will be no battle. We three share a common foe who would destroy us all." --- "This is folly," Catelyn said sharply. "Lord Tywin sits at Harrenhal with twenty thousand swords. The remnants of the Kingslayer's army have regrouped at the Golden Tooth, another Lannister host gathers beneath the shadow of Casterly Rock, and Cersei and her son hold King's Landing and your precious Iron Throne. You each name yourself king, yet the kingdom bleeds, and no one lifts a sword to defend it but my son." 3. She was there.. 4. Cortnay Penrose sounded more like he jumped or was pushed. 5. Mel used smoke, mirrors and powders to trick people (could she have faked a shadow baby before Davos?) also this: "Maester Cressen was your faithful servant. She slew him, as she killed Ser Cortnay Penrose and your brother Renly." "Now you sound a fool," the king complained. "She saw Renly's end in the flames, yes, but she had no more part in it than I did. The priestess was with me. Your Devan would tell you so. Ask him, if you doubt me. She would have spared Renly if she could. It was Melisandre who urged me to meet with him, and give him one last chance to amend his treason. And it was Melisandre who told me to send for you when Ser Axell wished to give you to R'hllor." He smiled thinly. "Does that surprise you?" 6. Cat said "the kings shadow"..I think she meant Renlys.. A Clash of Kings - Catelyn IV Renly laughed. "Tell me, my lady, do direwolves vote on who should lead the pack?" Brienne brought the king's gauntlets and greathelm, crowned with golden antlers that would add a foot and a half to his height. "The time for talk is done. Now we see who is stronger." Renly pulled a lobstered green-and-gold gauntlet over his left hand, while Brienne knelt to buckle on his belt, heavy with the weight of longsword and dagger. "I beg you in the name of the Mother," Catelyn began when a sudden gust of wind flung open the door of the tent. She thought she glimpsed movement, but when she turned her head, it was only the king's shadow shifting against the silken walls. She heard Renly begin a jest, his shadow moving, lifting its sword, black on green, candles guttering, shivering, something was queer, wrong, and then she saw Renly's sword still in its scabbard, sheathed still, but the shadowsword . . . "Cold," said Renly in a small puzzled voice, a heartbeat before the steel of his gorget parted like cheesecloth beneath the shadow of a blade that was not there. He had time to make a small thick gasp before the blood came gushing out of his throat. 7. Cat loses time in other parts of the story ex: sitting with Hoster & looking out the window 8. Brienne - "There was no one in the tent but you and Lady Stark. Do you claim that old woman could cut through hardened steel?" "There was a shadow. I know how mad it sounds, but . . . I was helping Renly into his armor, and the candles blew out and there was blood everywhere. It was Stannis, Lady Catelyn said. His . . . his shadow. I had no part in it, on my honor . . ." 9. Glass candles, glamouring, and faceless men Do exist in the story for certain. Are glass candles messing with Cat and Briennes heads ? Did Baelish hire a FM? more likely than a magical shadow baby that Stan made without his real consent, right? 10. Baelish had motive too: Convenient it frees up Marge to marry Joff ..I mean Tommen. So Baelish could treat for the Lannisters and be rewarded Harrenhal. 11. Stannis woke up with "clean hands" "Tell me, Alayne—which is more dangerous, the dagger brandished by an enemy, or the hidden one pressed to your back by someone you never even see?"
  5. Thanks! That's good stuff.
  6. Hana ! there's a good chance that Bran,Rickon, Davos, Cat, Beric, patch face etc etc are dead too.
  7. While I see your point, they serve no one. They'll kill whoever as long as they don't know them personally. They work for money (or other valuables) so while I think it's unlikely their endgame has anything to do with slavers, I bet they have to deal with them. Manderly is fat too. I wonder if the cheesemonger is related to the butterwell/Targ bastards. Butter wells were dairy people.
  8. I just learned there's a fat master with a hooked nose in he sworn sword, I just did a post on hooked noses lol
  9. Thanks for your reply. Well, there are three of them. I would hate to do an entire reread based on this premises, but searching hooked noses came up with all the kettleblacks, tytos Blackwood, the fat fellow and the house of black and white, and a fat master from the sworn sword. Also the hound. I tend to think he uses distinguishable features like silver hair, purple, green, or blue eyes, etc. as clues. Especially if hooked noses are associated with people involved with faceless, masters, and Baelish I'm intrigued. But you're right- it could just be nothing.
  10. Predating the Valyrians- The bloodstone emperor mated people to beasts, and took "a tiger woman" for a wife. I think there's a reason they were "mated"...
  11. Jaquen/the alchemist is described similarity to Osmund Kettleblack: "Love." It was Cersei's turn to laugh. "She fancies our Ser Osney." He was the youngest Kettleblack, the clean-shaved one. Though he had the same black hair, hooked nose, and easy smile as his brother Osmund, one cheek bore three long scratches, courtesy of one of Tyrion's whores. "She likes his scars, I think." the alchemist and Jaquen had the same description- down to the scar. Is this known? I can't find any theories. searching hooked noses came up with all the kettleblacks, tytos Blackwood, the fat fellow and the house of black and white, and a fat master from the sworn sword.. Also the hound, strangely. I tend to think GRM uses distinguishable features like silver hair, purple, green, or blue eyes, etc. as clues. Especially if hooked noses are associated with people involved with faceless, masters, and Baelish I'm intrigued. Any theories or thoughts please share.
  12. The World of Ice and Fire - Beyond the Free Cities: The Basilisk Isles Life on the Basilisks is nasty, brutal, and oft short. Hot, humid, and swarming with stinging flies, sand fleas, and bloodworms, these islands have always proved singularly unhealthy for man and beast alike. Ruins found upon the Isle of Tears, the Isle of Toads, and Ax Island hint at some ancient civilization, but little is now known of these vanished men of the Dawn Age. If any still survived when the first corsairs settled on the islands, they were soon put to the sword, so no trace of them now remains...save perhaps upon the Isle of Toads, as we shall discuss shortly. The largest of the Basilisks is the Isle of Tears, where steep-sided valleys and black bogs hide amongst rugged flint hills and twisted, windswept rocks. On its southern coasts stand the broken ruins of a city. Founded by the Old Empire of Ghis, it was known as Gorgai for close on two centuries (or perhaps four; there is some dispute), until the dragonlords of Valyria captured it during the Third Ghiscari War and renamed it Gogossos. By any name, it was an evil place. The dragonlords sent their worst criminals to the Isle of Tears to live out their lives in hard labor. In the dungeons of Gogossos, torturers devised new torments. In the flesh pits, blood sorcery of the darkest sort was practiced, as beasts were mated to slave women to bring forth twisted half-human children. Could it be?...
  13. YES ! Someone gets me! Jeyne told Cat she was drinking fertility tea her mother made, and her mother told Tywin it was abortion tea. So here we have that Tansy is both! Her grandmother was a witch from the east (Maggy the frog) - and I'm guessing she would know what she was doing? Also, Hoster Tully was murmuring "Tansy" on his deathbed and we found out Lysa had to take it when she was pregnant by Baelish. Later, we find a young red headed whore named Tansy working at the Peach...
  14. So I hear Westerling is coming up in the prologue. I have been saying she could have ripped her dress to take it out! This would mean that neither Jeyne or her mother lied to Cat or Tywin about her tea, because it is both. And what about Hoster Tully? The first historical records of common tansy cultivation are from the ancient Greeks who used it for a variety of ailments. It was grown in the garden of Charlemagne the Great in the eighth century and in the herb gardens of Swiss Benedictine monks as a treatment for intestinal worms, rheumatism, fevers and digestive problems. In medieval times, common tansy in large doses was commonly used to induce abortions. Cases of cattle abortions in Pennsylvania have been circumstantially linked to common tansy, but this is not well substantiated. Ironically, smaller doses of common tansy were thought to prevent miscarriage and enhance fertility. Common tansy is still used in some medicines and is listed in the United States Pharmacopoeia as a treatment for colds and fever. Source: http://store.msuextension.org/publications/AgandNaturalResources/MT199911AG.pdf
  15. "It's time I got another hawk, Davos- a red one" this is a red tailed hawk.