PrincessSapphire

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  1. Hi, this is my first post, and I want to discuss duty and love, and the way they play into the story, especially Robb and Jon's character arcs. Ned raised his children, especially Robb, the next lord of Winterfell, to live with honour, and do their duty. However, he also taught them the importance of love, and protecting those you care about. But what happens when those two principles contradict each other, and the person has to choose, a situation which both Jon and Robb find themselves in. They make different decisions, but both end up with devastating consequences. Let's start with Robb. He's a fierce fighter and strategic commander who has never lost a battle. However, to gain support, he agrees to marry a girl he's never met, a marriage to seal an alliance. But despite his military prowess, Robb is still a teenage boy, with teenage desires. So when he falls in love with someone else (Jeyne Westerling/Talisa Maegyr), and marries her, he is thinking with his heart, not his head. Unfortunately, Walder Frey, urged on by Roose Bolton and Tywin Lannister, takes this as a serious affront, and lures Robb into a trap where he massacres the Young Wolf, his bannermen, and even his mother, ending Robb Stark's brief tenure as King in the North. Jon has never known a woman before he leaves for the wall and takes a vow of celibacy, and I don't think he ever expected to at the time. I don't think he realized the entirety of what he had to do when the Halfhand told him to infiltrate the wildlings as a spy. He ends up falling in love with Ygritte, a wildling woman 'kissed by fire'. Through her, he gains the trust of Mance Rayder and the other wildlings. But when they plan to take the Watch by surprise and attack the Wall, Jon is torn between his vows, and the woman he's come to love. He chooses duty, and rides to warn the Wall of the coming danger. The Watch is ready for the wildlings when they arrive, and Ygritte is killed in the battle. If Jon hadn't warned the Wall, the wildlings would probably have prevailed, and Ygritte would still be alive, and that thought continuously haunts him. Maester Aemon tells Sam at one point that love is the death of duty. But in Jon's case, duty is also the death of love.
  2. I've been thinking about this a lot as well, and I believe that if the War of the Five Kings (or whatever it's called) were looked at six hundred years later, as we look at the Wars of the Roses, Tyrion would probably be portrayed similarly to Richard III. From what I have heard, the king wasn't necessarily a bad man, but was definitely considered ugly, whether or not he had a hunchback, and was judged to be evil by his appearance (sound familiar?). But the most blatant correlation to Tyrion is the story of the princes in the tower. Richard is accused of arranging the deaths of his nephews to seize the throne, just like how Tyrion was accused of poisoning Joffrey for power. Though there are some differences, I believe Tyrion is based on Richard III, and is supposed to show how he might have been wrongly portrayed by history. I mean, history is written by the victors, and imagine if Cersei's faction is victorious, and history books are written about it, would Tyrion's portrayal really be that different to Richard III's?
  3. I agree with the possibility as Bran going down a darker path. Despite everything he's been through, I he is still young and possibly naïve as well. We already know that Bloodraven probably has ulterior motives behind helping Bran control his power - he's not doing it just as an act of kindness or something. I believe Bloodraven will use Bran and his power for his own means, corrupting Bran, and influencing him to take the a dark path.