Jaehaerys Stark

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    "There's no shame in fear, my father told me, what matters is how we face it..."

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  1. Myrcella was safe and in love with her betrothed in Dorne. Cersei brought about the whole Tyrion-on-trial-for-Joffrey's-death thing, which led to the trial by combat that resulted in the death of Oberyn. The Red Vipers death drove Ellaria to kill Prince Doran and murder Myrcella. Tyrion was right. He drinks and he knows things...
  2. Ned cannot be Ghost. So many reasons why. Biggest would be as mentioned above, Jon wargs into Ghost on a number of occasions in the books. I have never read about an instance where a warg can jump into an animal (or person in Bran's case) that is currently being controlled by another warg. I think we would have come up on that by now. Ned looking up at the white ravens just before getting his head lopped off would indicate, to me, that if he could warg, which we have never had evidence of, would have warged into one of the birds. I think Ned did everything he felt he could to keep his promise to Lyanna, but once he was executed, was released from his oath, so to speak. Much like Jon was when killed, then brought back. I think the reason Ghost comes to Jon's aid when he does is because of the bond that they share. There is evidence of the Stark children having strong bonds with their wolves, to the point of seeming telepathic. I think that is probably the explanation that makes the most sense...
  3. This is impossible. Ned's remains were given to Catilyn to take back to Winterfell. If he was an Other/wight/NK his remains would've reanimated long before they made it back to Winterfell...
  4. I can see that. I just think the inconsistencies are what keep Varys in the game. One action seems to contradict another, but I think that is because we are getting to see all his actions from the outside looking in. We are getting to see what moves he has to make to not give away his real intentions to those that he wishes to hide them from...
  5. Pretty much this. @RhaenysB @LordFriendzone I honestly get what you are both saying, but to me, the points you use to say Varys is inconsistent, hence not obviously working with Dany's, or Westeros' best intentions at heart, are the very same points I think show he is genuinely good and out to do what's best for the realm. I guess, when I watch shows or movies, in my mind, I'm always looking a the situation not just as presented, but also for what lies underneath. Varys, from the jump, to me seemed like the guy that plays both sides of the ball. Once I picked up on that, it was just a matter of figuring out which side he REALLY wants to come out ahead. I have always been pretty good at guessing what twist is about to come in movies or shows. Like letting someone know, "Oh I bet he/she is really [fill in the blank]" or "I bet [fill in the blank] is going to happen." I just figured Varys out very early on. Just like it was clear that Littlefinger was a snake in the grass. It's funny that @RhaenysB mentioned that the 2 of them are a great pair of contrasting characters. I agree and have always thought that. From season 1 I could tell that they both play both sides. They both are willing to do what needs to be done to achieve their goals. They both smile in the faces of people, then stab them in the back. Yet, I also knew from the get go that while they are essentially the same person, Varys was on the good side of things, and Littlefinger on the bad. As Varys told Olenna Tyrell, Littlefinger would burn the entire realm down if it meant he could be king of the ashes. I recognized this very early on. So my apologies, it may not have been that obvious to most. But it was definitely obvious to me. I think maybe I just have an extraordinary bullshit meter and can tell truth from fake. I've always been that way, even with fictional characters...
  6. Ehhhhh it was pretty clear. You just have to read between the lines. He was helping in secret, so outwardly he still had to say all the right things and do all of the right things to keep up appearances. Let me lay it out for you: Season 1: Varys meets with Illyrio, tells him of the upcoming war between the Lannisters and Starks. He encourages Illyrio to convince Khal Drago to hasten his departure for Westeros. Later, with his first visit to Ned in the dungeons, Ned asks Varys who he truly serves, to which he replied "The realm my lord. Someone must." We learn that Varys is a sneak, but a good guy at heart. Season 2: Varys and Tyrion meet and Varys tells Tyrion that Danaerys is alive and well and now has 3 dragon. He makes the statement that once they are grown, her enemies will have nowhere to hide. Almost like he's bragging on the pony he has already placed his bet on. Seasons 3 and 4 there isn't a lot of mention from him about Dany, but he does all kinds of things behind the crown's back to let you know he is a good guy, like meeting with Olenna Tyrell to form an alliance to try and keep Sansa ot of Littlefinger's grasp. Keeps tabs on LF actions through Ros. Also tried to send Shae off to Essos with a bag of diamonds because he realizes she is a liability and that Tyrion is also a good guy and an important ally. Again, good guy. Season 4: Varys frees Tyrion and arranges passage for them to Pentos to meet up with Dany. Season 5: Varys flat out tells Tyrion that he supports Dany's rise towards the throne while staying at Illyrios' house in Pentos. Tyrion is kidnapped by Jora and turned over to Dany. He joins her company and once in, him and Varys meet back up in Mereen. From there the rest is history. Varys is officially on Team Dany through season 6. I'm sorry, but the writing was on the wall the entire time. You can't just look for the show to spell it all out literally. It's a saga series. There has to be some level of inference and drama implied...
  7. I think Jon's rise makes perfect sense, minus the whole exclusion of "The Conversation" which I am now calling it. The show doesn't address his being in the North in brown furs and fighting for House Stark, but I'm guessing TWOW will. But Cersei's rise makes absolutely ZERO sense. First of all, she wasn't the Queen at the time, Margaery was. She wasn't a Baratheon either. So if she wasn't the Queen, and she wasn't a Baratheon, she literally has no claim to the throne whatsoever. So other than the fact that she just decided to sit down and make herself Queen is just beyond me. You could argue that Dany and Jon are coming to dispute her claim, but still, I hate the fact that she just mae her self Queen and everybody outside of the North and Essos just sits back and lets it happen. That's crazy to me...
  8. @RhaenysB @Lucius Lovejoy I guess I am confused by your statements. Varys has been on Team Dany since season 1. Albeit secretly, but a supporter nonetheless. Remember the secret meeting under the Red Keep with Illyrio? They were working to put Dany in a position of power at that time because they saw a coming civil war between House Stark and House Lannister. Varys thought that Dany was the realm's best hope for stability and peace, after the dust settled of course. RhaenysB, you were right on that one. Varys does indeed serve the realm. I think all the references Varys made about coveting the throne was not to sit in it, but to put someone in it that would be best for the realm. He doesn't makes his allegiance known to Tyrion until they get to Pentos, in season 5, but he has definitely been working towards getting Dany's butt in that iron chair since season 1...
  9. I have read many different opinions regarding this subject on reddit. I am curios what you all think. After having watched the ToJ scene a million times and also keeping in mind certain things from the books, I think it will be Jaehaerys. It's actually what inspired my name on here, obviously. I just don't see how it could be Aegon, which some have speculated. That may have even been in the season 7 leaks, but I can't remember. It just wouldn't make sense for Rhaegar to name Jon Aegon, when in the books and show, he already had a son named Aegon. Now, I could see him naming him Aemon, who was Rhaegar's great great uncle (maester Aemon) and a good man. But, if we look at the fact that we see parallel after parallel in GoT, I think it's no coincidence that Jaehaerys I and II were both considered good kings who had the people's best interests in mind. Jon is currently KITN and may very well be on his way to becoming King of Westeros, especially if the season 7 leaks are correct in that
  10. We are again in agreement. We're on a roll, you and I! lol While admittedly entertained, I don't like how seasons 6/7/8 are being handled. Season 6 to me could have done differently in the sense that, there was SO much build up to things that readers and solely show watchers could have seen coming, yet we are stuck with an abbreviated season 7 and even shorter series finale season 8. They stretched season 6 as much as they could, but could have used that time more wisely to keep the story moving towards the series ending. Now, I fear, seasons 7 and 8 will be crammed with all kinds of things we could have addressed already while moving at break neck speed, giving us hardly any time to process what we'll be seeing. If anything, they should have been looking at ways to fill the season out. They claim the shorter seasons will have a bigger budget, and therefore will be better in quality. I say, cut your profits back a bit and give us 2 quality, 10 episode season. There's plenty of money to go around...
  11. Thank you. And agreed. I would have liked to have seen it too. I actually think addressing, and making common knowledge of Jon's troubles at the Wall, if anything, would have justified the decision to make him KITN. Think about it, Jon is at the Wall, protecting the realms of men and doing his civil duty (no need to mention his trist with Ygritte. What happens north of the Wall, stays north of the Wall *wink wink*). He's stomping out injustices north and south of the Wall, he's fighting White Walkers and parlaying with the King Beyond the Wall, all for the sake of the greater good. For the people. Next thing you know, he's betrayed by his brothers, murdered, then resurrected. Freed from the bonds of his oath, he is uniting Andal and Freefolk alike, in order to save humanity from the Others. The northern lords should have been made aware of this ahead of the Battle of the Bastards. Maybe he could have gotten more support. Or maybe it is explained in TWOW, but we never got to see it on screen. I think it would have given the viewer a better look into the character of some of the lords in the North. Did they know the whole story, and still refuse the call? Were some informed, and that's why they chose to rally behind him? We'll never know. And that kind of sucks...
  12. I'm not sure where I said I thought it was more important. I said that the people who make the show apparently think it was not necessary. I am saying that I understand why they think that. Sex sells on tv today. Dick jokes and other debauchery too. I've stated numerous times I would have liked to have seen it addressed at least once in one of the scenes that they showed pleading their case to Houses Mormont and Glover. I agreed with you while providing my opinion as to why they didn't address it. I don't know if you are overlooking that purposefully or not, but it's not important. Moving on...
  13. Agreed
  14. Well, there's no sarcasm in your response is there? lol Yet, I think you answered your own question. Things like "piles of dead bodies, religious fanatics talking to boy kings and prisoner queens in tight little rooms, Dothraki cracking dick jokes, Missandei and GreyWorm cracking jokes, people staring into the distance, people drinking wine, people drinking ale, etc" make for good tv. You can't leave that stuff out, right? lol Conversations about why Jon is south of the Wall would have been had when they went to recruit the northern houses. I'm pretty sure I covered that... I also stated that they should have shown at least one instance of that convo as well... What I'm saying, again, is that 1 piece was not covered, but implied. We know the show can jump in time quite a bit. The telling of Jon's resurrection would have spread through the North. It would have preceded his arrival at those northern houses. It would also have been mentioned in those conversations with the northern lords. Did they show it, no. Would it have quelled viewers like yourself if they had, sure. But we don't make the show. I don't know what to tell you...
  15. I get what you're saying. What I mean is that I think D & D intended for the viewer to assume it had been covered already somehow. Perhaps by raven, or simply word of mouth. Perhaps it's because they just don't have time to cover the small nuances like that. I mean, they made the rounds prior to the Battle of the Bastards. The show doesn't show them visiting every northern house trying to rally the troops. I would think that any issue with him/the Watch/the vows, etc would have been covered during those interactions. I mean, I imagine it would have been one of the first topics of conversation. How else explain why he's there fighting for House Stark to begin with, as opposed to his LC duties at the Wall. "Aren't you Lord Commander of the Night's Watch? Shouldn't you be at the Wall?" Those questions would have come up while trying to convince northern lords to send you their armies. It would've been nice to see that conversation play out at least once. I would have included it in the scene where they parlay with Lyanna Mormont, or even Robett Glover, but that's just me. After he leads the army he assembled to victory, with help from the Vale, it was definitely a non-issue at that point. He just rid the North of Ramsey and his men. He did everyone a great service. They're past the whole vows and oath thing. It is the show after all. Far more details will be presented in TWOW I'm sure...