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  1. I looked and it simply says he fell in love in with Lyanna and Ned agreed to bring the suit to Winterfell.
  2. It doesn't say, as far as I know the books do not mention Robert ever visiting Winterfell before Game, but since he has knowledge of the crypts and how the Starks bury their dead it's possible he has, however Ned could have told him all of these things at the Vale. Hopefully we'll learn about Lyanna's source of information about Robert and his bastards.
  3. Here you go, Robert will never keep to one bed," Lyanna had told him at Winterfell, on the night long ago when their father had promised her hand to the young Lord of Storm's End. "I hear he has gotten a child on some girl in the Vale." Ned had held the babe in his arms; he could scarcely deny her, nor would he lie to his sister, but he had assured her that what Robert did before their betrothal was of no matter, that he was a good man and true who would love her with all his heart. Lyanna had only smiled. "Love is sweet, dearest Ned, but it cannot change a man's nature."
  4. Not sure about this, iirc Ned has a memory of the night of Lyanna's betrothal and that the announcment was made in Winterfell.
  5. I wholeheartedly agree, when he told Theon that he was a Stark as well, i actually said out loud "I'll bet that's a real comfort to all the people that he killed"
  6. She's become the butt of many memes and jokes about chances of being reunited with family being lost and such, if there was no RW it's likely they would have left her at the Twins.
  7. He was, he actually made a formal offer for Arianne to marry Edmure which was noted by Arianne herself in Feast when Doran tells her about the plot to marry her to Viserys. She actually welcomed this overture but like all other offers Doran refused.
  8. Ask Varys or Grey Worm
  9. It's alright, i'm not bothered. The Fishermans daughter theory just doesn't hold much weight with me simply because it is only mentioned in one chapter i believe and it's mentioned by a character that we haven't seen before. Also these events happened before Ned and Cat's marriage which is a key point in their relationship, Cat believes that Ned cheated on her and therefore distrusts Jon immensely, if Jon was conceived before the marriage then why would Ned not tell her this? and why would he never name his mother if she was merely the daughter of a simple fisherman?
  10. For this post i'll assume that R+L=J. What are the possibilities for the reveal of Jon's mother? i find it unlikely that Howland Reed will just pop up out of nowhere and just say Jon, Lyanna was your mother and that will all that is said, we've also seen that Bran can see past events with his tree wizard shenanigans, but these powers haven't been explored much, ie can he take other people into these visions with him and show them what he sees?. Also how will Jon respond to this, we've seen throughout the books how much he thinks of himself as Ned's son and therefore it will take some serious evidence and persuasion to convince him otherwise. What are your thoughts on this?
  11. Yes that is true, but Robb's mistake was to accept a betrothal for Arya when he did not have custody of her. we see later in Storm that he gives her up for dead as no one has seen or heard of her since Ned's death. I was merely referring to Robb's desperation to mend ties with the frey's by any means he could, hence if Sansa had been released from King's Landing he would have offered her to the frey's instead.
  12. This particular topic was mentioned a whole bunch of times in a thread regarding robb's will, i have come to believe that the british editions have the mentions of the hips and the american editions do not, i own a copy of the american editions as well but they are currently on loan to a friend so i will not be able to verify this just yet.
  13. It was a big deal for Lyanna, because she knew that even after the wedding he would continue his whoring ways despite Ned's assurances that he would stop doing those things, she is proven right in game when Ned thinks on this when he comes back from the brothel where he meets Barra and her mother.
  14. is your friend's copy the american or british edition?