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  1. Will the Real Varys Please Stand Up?

    The thing about Varys that always made me wonder is how in the hell did Aerys ever hear of him? Who told Aerys about Varys and why? Varys was a thief in Esso's while Aerys was refusing to leave the Red Keep. It seems strange to me that Aerys, on his own, would ever hear about Varys.
  2. Will the Real Varys Please Stand Up?

    Velo-Knight, the one thing I wonder about is when Varys refers to "for the children" is he referring to all the children of the world, in general, or is he referring to, in an inner monologue way, some specific children? We don't know. On instigating Robert's Rebellion, I don't see it that way. There certainly were many factors that were bubbling about, which included the deteriorating relationship between Rhaegar and Aerys, but I don't think (and could certainly be wrong) that Varys was the one who caused Brandon Stark to charge headlong into KL demanding for Rhaegar. And I don't think Varys was whispering in Aerys' ear to roast Rickard Stark, or suggesting that they demand Jon Arryn bring Aerys the heads of Robert and Ned. Those particular acts were far more important in causing Robert's Rebellion.
  3. Technical question re: the God's Eye

    Quote "Did your fires show you where to find this girl?" "I saw water. Deep and blue and still, with a thin coat of ice just forming on it. It seemed to go on and on forever." The very next line in the book says "Long Lake". You think the person in Mel's vision is someone other than Alys Karstark making her way to Castle Black?
  4. Heresy 195 and the Mists of Time

    Small point here - but I thought the Doom of Valyria took place in 114 BC, which would make it about 415 years ago.
  5. Sorry, but I just had to pose these questions on the "creation" of the Others.

    GRRM wrote... "The Others are not dead. They are strange, beautiful… think, oh… the Sidhe made of ice, something like that… a different sort of life… inhuman, elegant, dangerous" Dragons have been described as fire made flesh, perhaps the Others are Ice made flesh.
  6. R+L=J v.163

    Thanks for the quick response!
  7. R+L=J v.163

    My apologies if this is not the right thread for this question, but looking at this SSM... Did Brandon Stark have daughters? The SSM specifically said he had no sons, but...
  8. "For a thousand years or more..." What?

    Regarding the Evenstar reference in LOTR, Arwen is referred to as Evenstar, the most beautiful of the last generation of high elves in middle-earth. Is there some connection then to the LOTR description and how Evenstar is used by GRRM? Not sure.....
  9. Jon's pointless end of story death

    I don't know if the fandom as a whole projects this or not, but GRRM did say that the ending will be bittersweet, which begs the question, in what way will the ending be bittersweet? Jon does strike me as the type of character who would sacrifice himself if the situation really called for it, but I really don't expect that to be the outcome.
  10. R+L=J v.163

    assuming the list is ordered chronologically, I don't think the sneeze relates to Brandon and Rhaegar. I think it predates Aerys II's ascension to the throne...which makes Jaehaerys II's sudden illness a leading candidate. I used the word mundane earlier to refer to Jaehaerys II's illness as the potential beginning domino but perhaps that does fit the context of what GRRM was speaking to, that something so small and insignificant could be the precursor to the fall of the dynasty. (on an aside, I would love to know what Brandon was told about Rhaegar/Lyanna and, perhaps more importantly, who told him and what their motivations were...but that's for a different thread)
  11. R+L=J v.163

    You're right that plague could mean sneeze...
  12. R+L=J v.163

    I don't think a plague fits a "sneeze". The Jaehaerys reference, maybe, I see the sickness element, but that just sounds so mundane.. I'd love to hear the Summerhill theory. When I first saw the word "sneeze" an image came to mind of a dragon sneezing, but I don't think that could be it. .
  13. R+L=J v.163

    Hello All, This is my first post and I apologize in advance for perhaps the trivial nature of it this link, posted earlier in this thread, I saw the following quote from GRRM "So, without dragons it took a sneeze, a wildly incompetent and megalomaniac king, a love struck prince, a brutal civil war, a dissolute king that didn't really know what to do with the throne and then chaos." My question, simply, is what was the sneeze? Assuming everything is listed in chronological order, it may have happened before Aerys II took the throne.