rotting sea cow

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  1. Of course there are not, but still they are the best we have. Many things can change and many other will not. Until that time we have to soup with whatever meager meal we are given. There are a lot of inconsistencies throughout the books. Don't look with suspicion at every detail, otherwise you will end like Preston Jacobs Yeah, it could be "the hand will have his head", a simple line, but as long as it doesn't happen I will still assume that it refers to the queen. The timelines are always complex here. Mercy seems to be to further inside the book than Arianne's chapters, so there is no necessarily a contradiction. We would need to try to imagine here what would be the following course of action for Varys. If the Tyrells control the IT, they have no reason to switch sides, so after Kevan & Pycelle, poor sweet Tommen should follow as the Tyrell power derives from him, leaving a queen Maergery kingless. She is the next best thing for Aegon after Dany, bringing the power of the Reach (it is very likely than Varys is also underestimating the danger of Euron giving the Redwyne's victory for granted). Now, Aegon has a big problem. How does he make the lords of the realm, many of them tired of war, to believe he is the real deal? Any Targaryen loyalist has been waiting for Dany and suddenly a walking dead shows up. The key here is Dorne, if "his uncle" vouches for him, people will most likely feel more confident, specially if the situation at KL gets very bad. To get Dorne, team Aegon needs to convince Arianne. Will they? What will Arianne demand in change? Will she say "marry me and Dorne is yours"? JonCon will oppose, but if for some reason they get trapped at Storm's End, they might reconsider. She is right there, Maergery is not. Now if Tommen were to die, the heir is Myrcella. Will the Sand Snakes (with the support of the Faith) try to pull a Queenmaker 2.0 against the Tyrells? Or just the sight of Robert Strong will send them in rage? They don't know that Arianne is at SE. There are a lot of actors and uncertainties in this subplot, but I believe that having Cersei (brutally) back in power will help Aegon cause. A realm happy with the Tyrell governance will make everything much more difficult for Aegon.
  2. So, you are willing to accept that Swyft will remain in the Small Council as the Master of Coin, but not that Cersei is back in power as implied by the same chapter? I mean, I understand you. The most logical path is what you describe with the Tyrells full in power. However we have that tidbit of information from Mercy, which is the best we have until TWOW is published, as illogical it may sound. Our scenarios need to consider that, until the God of the ASOIAF Universe (aka GRRM) decides otherwise. This includes that Cersei is back in power, somehow. And it makes sense. Cersei is a PoV who is not yet at the end of her arc and the Tyrells are supporting cast. They are not heroes nor villains. Even their characterization is less prominent than important non-PoV characters like Stannis, Tywin, Varys or Littlefinger, who are key part of the story. Finally, to make it truth the "cloth dragon swayed on poles amidst a cheering crowd", i.e. that the people of KL will welcome Aegon with all their hearths, we need that whoever was in the IT must have been despised. The Tyrells are loved.
  3. What makes you think that Harys will retain his position as Master of Coin? The Tyrells have several candidates and Mace is the hand.
  4. I'm actually hoping the opposite. Ashara has been so much abused by the fandom that hopefully GRRM tries to close that hole and remedy his own blind spots and provides us with some insight of what actually happened and why everybody thinks that Jon is Ashara and Ned son. And while we are at it, hopefully enough context about her personality and agency is provided.
  5. But resurrection is a recurring theme in the series. Not only of characters that suffered real death but also in many who have experienced traumatic events that "killed" them in some way (e.g. in PoV, Dany, Tyrion, Bran, Jaime, Cersei, Davos, Theon, Ariianne). So, the point is what you do with your "new life". Clearly LSH is not doing it great, but her resurrection happened in a particular manner after a extremely traumatic event. This is a good point. TBWB reminds me a lot of many irregular groups and guerrillas that started to fight against great injustices, but years of fighting transform them in killing machines with no other purpose than self-preservation. But LSH also serves to show us the perils of resurrection using the "fire kiss". We saw it already with Beric and how his memory was fading and only his mission mattered for him. Now we see how LSH who was resurrected much later after much more traumatic events is completely merciless and focused only on revenge. This raises question what will happen to Jon Snow.
  6. She will know from Harys Swyft and his last exchange with Pycelle.
  7. Pretty much. People misinterpret that scene as confirmation that Aegon is a Targaryen because that is what Varys implies. It is not necessarily so. Books and movies are not the same as real life. Scenes are constructed with narrative purposes in mind. No killer in real life (except a sadist) will waste time in a lengthy discourse. The point of that scene is that we can finally understand Varys and his motivations.
  8. Pretty much a combination of all four. Pycelle even stated that there are "things about the eunuch that will chill the blood". There is also what people would make of Kevan assassination. Killing him together with Kevan would make Cersei to suspect on both Tyrion and the Tyrells who have personal animosity towards Pycelle.
  9. It is possible it has been already put in use, depending who the (un)hooded man is. It is also possible it will be used to take WF if Bran is able to pass that information to Theon.
  10. I think there is mention of a secret passage in and out Winterfell that only Bran knows. So they sent the wolves ahead to confuse the hounds and they came back using that passage
  11. I like this. You may be right. Bran is still a possibility, because he can "visit" this very northern places using the weirwood.net. Davos too if he somehow ends in a mission in the Shivering Sea. Indeed, Ghost was foreshadowing Jon's death from the very beginning. This is the main problem here, what would be his mission. He would need to learn it whilst 'death'. Indeed
  12. I consider Feast as an interim book towards Dance, in the sense it feels a bit like it is made of different chapters stapled together with relatively little connection with each other. Dance is imho a much better structured story, more potent thematically than any other book and contain more of these mysteries we much like. It also ends in several cliff hanging plots that keep us busy speculating. Both books however, have that feeling that there is no much movement, compared with previous books. From a pure plot perspective both books are carefully arranging the pieces, in terms of character development and geographical positioning, towards TWOW where a lot of things will be resolved.
  13. I don't think it has been too bad. Of course we get frenetic at times due to the long wait, but on the other hand it gives us time to analyze the books in detail and find all hidden treasures in there. This forum is a good example of this. Some people get at times paranoid and suspect of every word, but I think the problem is with the people not with the books. If people try to read the community (there are good posters here and good bloggers out there), they shouldn't get into the any demential crackpottery. There are many things we can do with the current information, like expanding the world building, extrapolating know rules to new situations, understanding symbolism and its sources, etc.
  14. The problem here is that we don't know the exact instructions of Rhaegar to the KG, regarding Lyanna and Jon. So, although it makes sense to team with W. Darry, it may be cause of conflict with Viserys if it turns out that somehow, Jon is the actual heir. It is also not clear how Ned won that battle. Only that Howland Reed helped. As long as we don't know these details, it is very hard to speculate what would A. Dayne would have done.
  15. I think the OP is using a very broad definition of incest. Over here is only considered as abomination when happens within the nuclear family. More distant relatives are considered weird, but not abnormal. For example - a cousin had an affair with his younger aunt. - a second degree cousin married a cousin (from a different line) - I met a couple who grew together. Their respective parents married when they were children, but they have no blood connections. Situations like that were more common in days of yore, particularly in smaller towns where everybody has some blood relation.
  16. And don't you think that maybe that is part of his arc. That maybe he cannot die without understanding the damage he has done and he must done some deeds to compensate it. Bran & Jaime are likely to have a metaphysical encounter in that cave full of weirwood roots.
  17. Stark will survive, maybe only through the female line (Sansa) Lannister will go extinct. Tully will go extinct I fear Tyrell, I don't know, but probably extinct as well. Martell will go extinct. Some Sand Snakes (specifically Alleras) will survive, maybe GRRM will spare Trystane, but probably not Baratheon will survive only through the bastard line (Edric Storm) Targaryen will go extinct Greyjoy will survive through the female line (Asha) Hightower will go extinct Bolton will go extinct Frey will survive through Big Walder
  18. I've no idea how Jaime and Brienne will get out of the trouble. But they will. For me it is becoming clear that Jaime & Brienne are important for the end game against the Others. Check Jaime dream in ASOS. They both will end at the Night Watch somehow. Jaime after strangling Cersei will likely take Widow's Wail and head North. When did revenge has achieved anything? One of the point of the series is the futility of revenge.
  19. But again, this is a consistent problem with most sex scenes. Dany said "yes" in the end, was that rape or not? This ambiguity is becoming infuriating.
  20. There is one case, Runnymudd & Garth at the Wall , but again it is very subtle. Given that there is no strong social or religious condemnation towards homosexuality in Westeros, it is of course strange that there are no more cases.
  21. Good rant Walda sex scenes are not the strongest in the books. I truly believe GRRM should stay away of writing about sex. Apparently none. Maybe Nym. IEllaria seems to be open to exploration. It may be part of the problem. Also his age should have some influence. Attitudes towards sex and women have changed significantly during his life and during the writing of the books. I think there is a problem with the depiction of these cultures, particularly the Dothraki. Even if they are more "tolerant" to rape, they cannot have their culture based only on rape and pillage. Where are Dothraki mothers? brother and sisters? Even Dothraki do not seem to have his own personalities (besides Drogo). There is a problem here too. It is actually the other way around. Mel was trying to trick Jon into sex with her. "The Lord of Light in his wisdom made us male and female, two parts of a greater whole. In our joining there is power. Power to make life. Power to make light. Power to cast shadows."
  22. Depressing? It is Cersei advice FFS, and she is wrong as with almost everything else, like “The only way to keep your people loyal is to make certain they fear you more than they do the enemy.” or "a strong king must act bold" etc. If you want a woman who had already proved her wrong, you need to look at Daenerys. "A young girl she might be, but Daenerys Targaryen was the only thing that held them all together." - Barristan
  23. Oh yes, he did, twice actually "The fat man made good on the promised bath, though. No sooner did Tyrion lower himself into the hot water and close his eyes than he was fast asleep. He woke naked on a goose-down feather bed so soft it felt as if he had been swallowed by a cloud. His tongue was growing hair and his throat was raw, but his cock was as hard as an iron bar. He rolled from the bed, found a chamber pot, and commenced to filling it, with a groan of pleasure" - Tyrion I, ADWD "Good morrow, Hugor." Septa Lemore had emerged in her white robes, cinched at the waist with a woven belt of seven colors. Her hair flowed loose about her shoulders. "How did you sleep?" "Fitfully, good lady. I dreamed of you again." A waking dream. He could not sleep, so he had eased a hand between his legs and imagined the septa atop him, breasts bouncing." - Tyrion IV, ADWD But otherwise you are right, as far I can recall, these are the only two cases of masturbation in the books, despite having many young PoVs.
  24. Thanks for the clarification. I misunderstood your comment as a 'natural' justification for rape. And well, as a straight man, I'm not at all aroused by the prospect of rape, even sex with passive women (starfishes) are a huge turn off for me. Regarding rape in the series, there are two types 1.- As part of war atrocities and as far as I can recall, no such case of rape is explicitly described, despite happening in huge scale. Same with torture. We should be thankful for that. 2.- People have noted that most sex scenes are not unmistakably consensual, there is almost always some power play at work. From Ygritte with Jon, to Cersei with Taena. This is indeed a problem.
  25. I'm not a expert on Sansa & Vale plot, but I caught this last night. I was going to post it in the 'I never noticed that' thread, but maybe it's too important. and earlier Although Lady Waynwood turned out, unexpectedly... All for Alayne II in AFFC, the same chapter where Littlefinger reveals the betrothal of Alayne Stone (Baelish's bastard daughter) to Harry the Heir. As we see the whole thing through Sansa's head, we go along with the plan, despite the evidence of the contrary in the same chapter! Littlefinger is delusional here. It's not gonna work. Vale nobility is one of the most conservative in Westeros.