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  1. Heresy 197 the wit and wisdom of Old Nan

    Is it possible that old stories about evil giants weren't originally told by men but instead by the COTF? Men are giants to COTF, and lots of stories about evil giants could be describing regular sized men harassing the much smaller COTF. Assuming some sort of cultural exchange occurred following the pact/Long Night (not to mention consciousness-bending trees and magic mutating myth and memory for thousands of years) could men be inadvertently telling another species' stories about themselves? Obviously giants do exist in this world, but their existence does not necessarily preclude these stories from originally referring to humans.
  2. Heresy 195 and the Mists of Time

    I like this idea.
  3. Heresy 195 and the Mists of Time

    What candidates from house Stark could still be popping around? Do you think Lyanna or Benjen might be still alive? Or maybe someone from an older, but more recent generation like Ned's grandfather or something? Haven't really thought about this just kind of wondering what would make you place your bet there.
  4. Heresy 195 and the Mists of Time

    So if you had to guess, who or what is creating them in our current story?
  5. Heresy 195 and the Mists of Time

    I like this idea - other people have speculated that going underground would be one of the ways to survive the Long Night. Especially warm underground caves near a volcano. Discovering (or re-discovering) dragons/dragon eggs definitely a possibility.
  6. Heresy 195 and the Mists of Time

    Well now you're just not being fun at all.
  7. Heresy 195 and the Mists of Time

    I think that's the whole point of this thread - obviously the timelines have discrepancies and sure its a possibility someone made the whole thing up - but we're trying to sort out those timelines based on textual evidence. Your assertion that there are possibly other, older, castles that disappeared has the least amount of textual evidence and therefore isn't very helpful to the discussion. The most likely explanation would be that the Nightfort is the oldest, but maybe isn't as old as we're led to believe. Now we use evidence from the text like @Black Crow 's excellent original post to try to decipher those timelines and see what it can tell us about the current story and maybe make us think about the in-world history in a different light.
  8. Heresy 195 and the Mists of Time

    Can't wait!
  9. Heresy 195 and the Mists of Time

    Even if you believe there were other possibly older castles than the Nightfort which disappeared, there is no evidence of that in the text. The text leads us to believe the Nightfort is almost certainly the oldest and the first, the bigger leap is that there were others. That is a theory not at all supported by the text, unless I'm missing something.
  10. Heresy 195 and the Mists of Time

    Well, it does say the Nightfort is the oldest, which means at one time it of necessity HAD to be the only one. Other castles not surviving is an interesting thought but I think the original point still stands.
  11. Heresy 195 and the Mists of Time

    Hey this is cool I didn't know about the rankings on profiles but I'm glad I've posted enough to no longer be labeled a "commoner" haha
  12. Heresy 195 and the Mists of Time

    Did the original Nightfort have walls and southern defenses when it was first built? If it was only after the fall of the Night's King that the Watch was barred from defending from the South, are we to assume the original Nightfort had walls? Not sure if it matters just wondering if people had other thoughts. Wow I never thought about it like this! This really alters my perception of the Night's Watch and what their original role could have been. Do we know if the Nightfort also had a tunnel through the Wall in addition to the Black Gate? We know the abandoned castles had their tunnels filled with ice and rubble, but is their any mention of the Nightfort's tunnel or is the Black Gate the only confirmed way through the Wall there?
  13. Heresy 194 Underworld

    It does seem like there is more to the Faith than just a stand-in for medieval Catholicism. History of Westeros and @LmL speculated in their Great Empire of the Dawn episode about the origins of the "Starry Sept" in Oldtown and possible connections to the Church of Starry Wisdom. Lots of astronomical influence on the faith of the 7. Plus the weirwood staves keep turning up in the hands of priests like you pointed out.
  14. Heresy 194 Underworld

    Isn't there something about the Children of the Forest making weirwood bows? And we know they used obsidian - any thoughts on where they were getting the obsidian that they used and also traded with the Night's Watch? Stannis is mining it on Dragonstone, but I've never thought of the children having the industry to "mine" something. They live in caves, so obviously they could find it. Maybe the children have more connections to "fire magic" than we give them credit for. Children of the Forest living in old volcanoes?
  15. Heresy 194 Underworld

    This sounds spot on to me. The light was "flickering" in Thistle's eyes, calling to mind flame. And as others have said there are plenty of references to "burning ice" and the like - the Other's are definitely fiery ice and their wights are presumably animated by that same "cold that burns." I wonder when it was that Thistle makes the transition to wight - we know there is a cold wind blowing, hundreds of wights descend on the village when Thistle returns to try and wake Varamyr and get him moving as he lies nearly unconscious beneath the weirwood tree after his weirwood crutch goes out from under him. Then he tries to leap into her skin, she goes mad and they fight for control of her body. He takes over for a "brief moment" where he revels in sucking down the "frigid air" into her body -more cold wind?- before she's able to bite her tongue off and then gouge out her own eyes. It's then when he is drowning in blood that "the white world turned and fell away" and Varamyr seemingly goes into the weirwood - looking out as "a madwoman danced blind and bloody underneath the moon, weeping red tears and ripping at her clothes." That's our last look at Thistle before she becomes a wight in what I would guess is the next couple of moments - she's still alive just mad. In that moment "some cold wind" seems to blow Varamyr out of the weirwood and he's the "wood, and everything that's in it" before his "true death" that feels like a shock of cold. I think it was the old outline of ASOIAF where Martin says the Others ride the cold winds. I would guess something about this cold wind is what animated Thistle and gave her the pale blue flickering eyes, and I'd even say it's possible this wind disrupted Varamyr staying in the weirwood and blew him out into the world again before he was able to join with his wolf. The inclusion of lots of blood and the mention of the moon in the scene obviously has lots of symbolism that other people can probably sort out better than me.