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  1. Yeah - Spartacus taught me not to judge a show by it's first episode. I still recall thinking respected members of this forum had lost their edge when they kept saying how good the rest of season one was. Gratuitous = "given unearned or without recompense", or, "not called for by the circumstances". I'm not sure why that word can't proceed "fun" - especially in the context of "it's probably mindless shit but at least it's entertaining with sex/violence/general OTT dialed up to the max in the name of entertainment"? Zorral caught my drift. But to be pedantic let's just say " it probably has enough sex, violence and witty one-liners to mask the fact that it doesn't make any real sense in the setting it's pretending to be in" and as long as that's an enjoyable exprience I like to use "grauitous fun" rather than having fun reading or watching a well researched piece on British Rome. I don't know, maybe saying "spartacus fun" would have been less controversial? As for the dialogue and the show bearing little reseblance to the time it's supposed to be set - I guess the following clip highlights the difference between ignoring facts for fun and ignoring them because you can't be arsed to create the illusion of something feeling genuine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_AmdvxbPT8
  2. I read that too and the "talks modern so that we can empathise with the cast" screams lazy and patronising to the audience. Then again radio times shouldn't be acting as a promo piece for Sky shows. The phrase I'm wanting to hear is something along the lines of "this is the most gratuitous fun since Spartacus:blood and sand". That would get me interested. It seems the show was either so good people are too busy bingeing it to comment or (I suspect more likely) no-one from the forum has bothered to watch it yet.
  3. I'm still curious about the interview in Brazil where the actor playing "original" (although I think even that body was a sleeve?) Kovacs got a fair amount of prominence. If he gets a decent amount of screentime in the flashback scenes (which again from the Brazil interview seemed to be a decent portion of the show) then the viewer should hopefully get used to the idea that Kovacs isn't just kinnaman. By the end of the season (assuming it's doing a season = the book) this should mean the viewer may be used to the concept by the time the khumalo combat sleeve appears. Whereas the torture scene maybe occurs too soon in the show for them to be confident it would work? Another issue is that "Kovacs" will be essentially immobilised while tortured making it tricky to get his body language way of speaking over to the viewer. One of the really cool things in the show could be being able to recognise "Kovacs" just by the way he walks into a room. I've been thinking more about Dichen Lachmann's role. Given she was in dollhouse which actually has a lot of crossover with Altered carbon but the inverse in that we followed the sleeve and not the personality from one episode to the next. Now given most of the dolls in that show did a great job at becoming someone different I'm wondering whether Lachmann's role involves her being more than one person? It would put her acting skills to good use and maybe Reileen's mind is put in prison while her body is used by someone else - it'd give us an insight into people seeing other people's bodies used, Now it doesn't really gel with the character from the book but it seems the show won't be a slave to the book anyhow. Just some random speculation.
  4. She makes really valid arguments for its exclusion from a simple storytelling angle to it coming off as exploitative. It really will make the scene of fury following it work better on screen. that's the one that popped into my mind. The only other one I can think of was the insinuation of something very sinister having happened off the page
  5. I think it was essentially the plan in Alan Moore's "warchmen" as well - give them something else to hate. I noticed in the expanse series the authors use the word "tribalism" a lot which I guess is what a lot of 'isms are. Speaking of Expanse I felt they did a far better job of 'spacing' people than Discovery did. Although I still have a fondness for the brutal off-handed spacing in BSG.
  6. The actor is being kept pretty busy. There's regular Voq, Ash Voq, mirror Voq and I'm not ruling out there's a "was always human Ash" sitting in a klingon prison still. The actor mentioned he's enjoying playing with all the iterations we've seen so far.
  7. It's turning out to be really predictable but fun. I like how they keep finding new ways to use the spores to solve EVERY problem with continually crazy pseudoscience. Although i was a bit sad when I was playing "spot the alien" and went "vulcan", "Andorran", (pause) "oh I forgot - Klingon". That's when I realised there's a lot to be said for having an iconic look. It's almost endearing or otherwise perplexing that the terrans can be so bigoted towards aliens but seem to be pretty good as far as gender and race tolerance towards other humans. Guess those differences seem small when you have aliens to hate. A bit like how the klingons seem pretty co-operative when they have a superior force to fight.
  8. I keep mixing this one up with Mindhunter for some reason.
  9. That's a very good point - especially with the use of "pens". I was kind of hoping they were still wild cards that Duarte hadn't got access to yet - . But it would make complete sense that they were part of the reason Duarte was on the road to immortality.
  10. There's a weird part of me sort of hoping Luther and "hard sun" are set in the same BBCverse. Given the similarity in tone it's perfectly plausible. Although given the premise of "hard sun" it's not really the show other ones would want to tie into.
  11. I need to see what happens with American gods post-Fuller before I can be interested in any more projects from him. He seems remarkably good at getting the ball rolling on something and then disappears. I often wonder if the financial argument is just an excuse to allow him to move elsewhere. Discovery seems to have survived his leaving. Who knows what will happen with American Gods? Maybe it'll improve as a lot of the issues I had with season 1 felt a bit like they could be Fuller overindulgences to be honest. What's worse with American Gods is how a few cast members have jumped ship with him eg Gillian Anderson. Maybe he's just someone who enjoys the creative process or maybe he's going to have to grow up a bit and do movies if he wants such large budgets? Although there is the LOTR show coming out which has an insane budget as part of the agreement. Maybe he'll go there once he tires of the amazing stories anthology show and this show?
  12. The immortality hating is odd and somewhat hypocritical - he doesn't have to be essentially immortal himself if he so chooses. The 1% hating appeals to assumedly younger audiences and is usually a plus when it comes to socially minded reviewers and online buzz. For me the relgious aspect that has to be kept is the resistance towards immortality from a "how would I get to heaven" stand. I think that's worth covering and doesn't necessarily have to be done in such a way that Kovacs has to hate them or that they are villains/wrong. I'd agree it's playing it too safe if they avoid this completely but handled correctly and I think it would be far from dumbed down. Some could argue the book's negative look on religion is a little dumbed down in it's "they are all idiots" Dawkins-esque approach.
  13. I guess they could dodge a lot of cost with book 1 = season 1 and then expand the budget for the bigger scenes in season 2 if it catches on. A film would be nicer if they could capture the characterisation in a shorter format.
  14. Not a typo -as others mentioned the main marvel comics universe had a white WWII Nick Fury. The ultimate version was always Samuel L Jackson (Millar often encouraged his artists to emulate actors in his film pitches comics). So there was no contrived issues with Ultimate Nick Fury. But regular continuity Nick Fury involved their being a black Nick Fury Jr who wound up losing an eye, wearing a patch and taking over from Fury Sr. The films had the freedom to choose whichever version they wanted to and as seen with various characters from Thor and Dr Strange they change gender/ethnicity as they wish. Besides the names of characters there's very little evidence of the comics ever dictating the movies. Which makes sense when ticket sales in New York for a mcu film are probably higher than single issue sales of the respective comic. I'd say the comic inspired Sam Jackson Nick Fury and his success in the role dictated the change afterwards in the comics.
  15. Small steps, I guess we have to be thankful for that? It's a frequent and fair argument that the biggest female superheroes are still white (and just by being female the list shrinks considerably). Out of the ones you mention Kamala khan could possibly work - although I think she'd suit a TV show. Storm could if she is given a more prominient role in the inevitable MCU reboot/recasting. The other two would have to spin out of a white man's film first to make much sense (although we're getting a Venom without spidey so anything's possible). It's why the casting of non-white people in roles has been used and is actually a pretty good idea. In the case of Nick Fury it worked so well that the comics bent over backwards to make their version black too. If Captain Marvel does well and Black Panther (which looks excellent) then this, added with Wonder Woman's success will show it can be done and that people want superheroes irrespective of race and gender. Then we'll get more variety. But they shouldn't rush into it unless they have a great concept because when these types of film fail the easy excuse is to say "women/black/etc lead films don't work". Again, looking at the comics side Marvel valiantly tried to diversify their cast. The issue was that the general story telling approach in Marvel has been terrible and event driven for several years. Marvel's solution? Stop making diverse comics. They still have the same terrible story telling though.