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  1. No, I don't think so and I guess neither do you by virtue of you replying with a parallel / homage which is the point of the thread.
  2. Greetings, I just started reading the Dune series and I'm immediately taken by a couple of things. 1 it's Awesome and I can't recommend it highly enough, not sure how I managed to go 40+ years without knowing this. 2 of all the books and series I've read it's surely the closest to ASOIAF I've come across and has a huge amount of parallels. Plots and intrigues An Epic scale spanning generations and seeing those plots unfold through those generations. The importance of bloodline, breeding, inheritance and entitlement in a feudal society. The interplay of government, religion and commerce in the struggle for power. The fact that not everything happens on screen so the reader is empowered to fill in the blanks for themselves. The fact that it's a sci-fi book where the sci-fi is incidental to the story in the same way that ASOIAF is a fantasy book but the fantasy is incidental. Even down to the Bene Tleilax a bunch of face changing assassins with a strange code of honour who are surely the direct inspiration for the faceless men? I wonder has GRRM ever cited Dune as an inspiration for him?
  3. Click bait title.... I recently listened to the exchange between lady Westerling & Jaime. I don't see how it could be faked, the mum would have to be in on it and there is too much risk. The exchanges are too natural for it to be fake dialogue from a stand in Jayne I think.
  4. In AFFC Alayne II Little finger says to Santa.... " I had hoped to have four or five quiet years to plant some seeds and allow some fruits to ripen, but now . . . it is a good thing that I thrive on chaos. What little peace and order the five kings left us will not long survive the three queens, I fear." This is shortly after the failed plot by Arianne Martel to crown Myrcella which few knew about. (the conspirators + Doran + Areo Hotah + presumably Riccasso + the guards used to intercept). Now if we assume Littlefinger is referring to Cersei + Margaery + Myrcella as the 3 queens he must have an informant very close to Doran. Who? how/why? Does it matter? Maybe the major players have informants everywhere but Kings Landing certainly don't seem to know about It. if he does have a well placed informer, might he know something about Quentin's quest? It's possible he is referring to Dany as the third queen but in the passage he seems to be talking exclusively about Westeros and Day currently has no impact there so I don't think he is. Any thoughts?
  5. He's definitely sinister I'm just not sure there is precedent in the text on not using pain relief etc to link him to Varys cutting.
  6. Good point I'd forgotten Qyburn. Edit. Wouldn't Varys have met Qyburn in KL though? I dont recall any recognition from Varys. Also Qyburn offers Jaime milk of the poppy when fixing his hand in SOS so not sure it is his MO?
  7. with all Of The talk of magic I recall I once made a thread trying to identify all Of The magic or unexplained we see or hear about in the books, better minds may be able to draw something interesting from it. Mel: Accurate future visions in the flames Glamours Resistance to poison Birthing shadow assasins Everyone's favourite D&D spell fireball. Extended lifespan. Thoros: Multiple resurrections Dondarrion: Flaming blood Moqorro: Healing mirri maz durr: Resurrection Dany: Resistance to fire Awakening dragons The others: Raising whites Making new others from Crasters sons Extreme cold Assorted characters (all Of The North): Skinchanging 1 or more animals Bran: Skin changing Hodor Visions through time Communicating through weirwoods Bloodraven: Communicating through dreams Extended lifespan Jojen reed: Accurate green dreams Faceless men: Skinchanging Quaithe: Appearing in dreams Warlocks: Life force sucking Patchface: Accurate prophecies. Both Tobo Mott and the Alchemists refer to using "spells" as part of their craft. Glass candles being used to see/ communicate over vast distances. A character called Urrathon the nightWalker is referred to in relation to glass candles and our friend Martyn has one. I've probably missed tons.
  8. Great thread. Just a couple of interesting characters who have studied at the citadel. Oberyn Martell Whorsebane Umber Marwyn the mage. Perhaps the most interesting given his association with Mirri Maz Durr and her role in birthing of dragons and further that he allegedly has 3 pages Of The fabled text signs & portents.
  9. I'm not sure the promise was just to keep Jon safe. Not sure Lyanna would need to ask that specifically of her brother. If Jon is Lyannas son then Keeping Jon's identity safe has as a minimum: * Compromised his relationship with his wife. * Forced him to lie to Jon about his parentage all his life. * Brought a degree of shame on honourable Bed, father of a bastard. If Jon is also Rhaegars: * He has lied to his best friend all his life. * And in so doing potential robbed the kingdom of its rightful king if he was legitimate. The Direwolves might be snarling because Neds lies have kept the 300 year old kings of winter from ascending to power because by denying the son of a Targaryen they have also denied the Son of a Stark a crown?
  10. It's not the white wolf that sticks out for me its the "open eyes" given all if the references to Bran opening his third eye. Ned spends almost a whole book clueless about the incest, has to be led there by "the seed is strong" and Arryns book and even then only stumbles on the idea after a chance remark by Sansa. If there is any recognition there it is very well hidden.
  11. 1. The context is a conversation about Bastards vs dwarves. I suppose it's possible that Tyrion is being used to give the reader some subtle but it's Tyrion, having a Conversation with Jon about being a bastard and then reflecting on how Starky he looks. The scene is being used to establish his Starkness IMO. Of course in the Brandon Incest case he is doubly Stark... 2. You are quite right and I stand corrected. 3. Brandon had an issue with it, Barristan Selmy comments on it. At best it's unusual, for the characters in the book to bring it up. Is it anything other than speculation that it somehow wasn't an issue?
  12. The context Of The quote that Jon's mother left little of herself in him is missing and very important. Brandon's reactions had all of the following rationales: 1 he is a hot head 2 he has "Southern ambitions" that, whatever they are, are surely not helped by Rhaegars choice of Lyanna as QOL&B when he is married to a Dornish princess. 3 the reason cited in the text. He considersed it a slight on his sisters honour. Any combination of these 3 is highly plausible and require a lot less of a leap of faith than an incestuous child with his sister. You may be right about the power of Kings blood. What we know is that the Starks haven't been Kings in the North for 300 years and the (only?) person who tells is there is power in kingsblood is Mel so it's possible that she is wrong and your interpretation is more accurate there just isn't much to back up either view.
  13. Just one minor observation on this (with no specific interpretation of what I think it might mean) Bran 1 GOT: "His fur was white, where the rest of the litter was grey. His eyes were as red as the blood Of The ragged man who had died that morning. Bran thought it was curious that this pup alone would have opened his eyes while the others were blind." Dr Strange recognising Jon's advanced development and power in chapter 1 of book 1. Jon is singled out by GRRM from day 1.
  14. I agree that Jon being a contender for those roles doesnt rule out some other people. That's basically GRRMs writing style, write a prophecy / mystery and have 3 people / situations for whom the argument can be made to provoke debate. We seem to both agree that having a PTWP etc advances the narrative so I think tagging Jon as a contender answers your question of how would R+L=J advance the story.
  15. Really like the Summerhall line of thinking, this bit.....not so much. Nothing to even remotely hint at this in the books and if B+l=J then Jon wouldn't have Kings blood which would then undermine the Theory you have put forward if i understand it correctly?