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  1. Alright, you guys figured me out, I'm not even pretend smart...
  2. I thought it was ok. If you were already planning to buy the collection, I still would, although I am not sure if it's worth it just for that. It is, to me, very reminiscent of the shorter stories in The King In Yellow.
  3. Perfect 5/7, would Storm with it.
  4. Perhaps then supporting the idea that it takes are particular sort of soul to animate the No-God then. This seems plausible, or they took a blue-print for something like that and weaponized it. But dwindling numbers still would seem to indicate they couldn't really be too newly made.
  5. Hmm, interesting, it's been ages since I actually cracked open my paper copies. I have a hardcover TTT, first edition, so that one probably says Flame too.
  6. No, it is the Inverse Fire there. In fact, the only reference to anything Inverse at all: Also, something fuctions as surrogate souls for them: Might this be the Inverse Fire? In the same manner of how Wutteät is said, "Hell sustains him from within." Note that Cnaiür says about the skin-spies: So, perhaps, in a way that Inverse Fire is something within all of the Tekne creations. I had this idea a few years ago, that perhaps the IF could function as a crude replacement of a soul. Thinking about it more now, what if the line of wretches being fed into the the Golden Room is made to feed the Inverse Fire to stoke it? I'm unsure why it would need to be stoked though, but perhaps, in the same way that the 100 derive sustenance from souls, the Inverse Fire "burns" with the "heat" of damnation.
  7. Chapter 11, TTT. I never did buy the Mandate idea that Skin-spies are all that new. There is this quote, from Chapter 1 on Darkness: Impossibly ancient sure seems like a long time, not something new. Of course, impossibly ancient could just means several hundred years, I guess. But if they are new, why can't they make more? Or was it a limit of the proper material?
  8. Yeah, I think his second comment only serve to point out that for whatever reason, pre-leaving or post, Moe was regarded as their better. But if he wasn't let back in, he must have returned? So, he did come back and they said no. That does sort of work to confirm he might have just gone AWOL in the first place, but my feeling is that Moe left Ishuäl twice. Once, for whatever reason and upon return, was denied entry. I just have a hunch that it wasn't so simple as them just saying, "no, you have been in the world, you can't come back" though. If they permanently exiled him based off his experience, they must have learned something of it though? Unless of course it was part of the Pragma's own plan, send him out, let him see what he could do, then deny him reentry, knowing full well he would have to go out and seek domination.
  9. A fair point and very plausible. I do think that is what Kellhus was probably told, even if he never really bothered to deduce the logical holes in that explanation. Well, I don't think Scott was lying in his answer to my question, even if he was evading most of it and gave a indirect anwser. Had Moe not left in the first place, for whatever reason, then there wouldn't be an issue of his return. So, while you might be correct, that he walked out under his own volition, in the first place, I don't think that was the last they heard from him. Perhaps then it would be reasonable to surmise that Moe left under some auspices of "discovering more" or some such. This would square with the "Anasûrimbor as prodigies" aspect of things, since he likely achieved all he could in the confines of Ishuäl and sought new domains. The highlight of my theory could then remain intact. It was more all that he experienced that made him unfit for staying within Ishuäl afterwards though, less about any knowledge.
  10. Yes, but not in our "hearing," Kellhus only remarks later that they are "another of Leweth's myths come true."
  11. To take this tread a little different direction for a moment: For a long time now, I've had this feeling that the story of why Moënghus left Ishuäl simply didn't really add up. Prima facie, it seems plausible that to keep Dûnyain society effectively isolated, outside influence must be avoided at any cost. Compromised individuals must be eliminated, lest the whole endeavor necessarily fail. However, some aspect of why Moënghus left don't really jive with that. Let's start with what we're told: So, previous to a close reading of this paragraph, I had the mistaken assumption that it was encountering the Sranc that lead to Moë leaving, but this is not the case at all. That stands to reason, encountering Sranc would be litter different than encounting a pack of wolves, especially if one never bothered to learn Aghurzoi, the Sranc language. I mean, it is plausible that even knowledge of Sranc would be something of an outside influence, but I don't believe they were unaware of Sranc, so their continued existence would not be much of a shock. On that point, Kellhus doesn't question Leweth when he speaks of Sranc, only show unfamiliarity with their particulars when Leweth points out their particulars. This, to me, speaks to Kellhus knowledge of Sranc in the intellectual sense, but unfamiliar with the practicalities and particulars of them. That is something of an aside though. So, going back to the above quote, Moënghus leaves Ishuäl to investigate the Sranc's finding of them, so what would he presumably do? Track them backwards, to see where they came from. There are a few obvious options on what he would find would plausibly include: More Sranc More Sranc, but lead by Ursranc. More Sranc, but lead by a Nonman. A human settlement. Human ruins. Nonman ruins. In the first two cases, there is little to suggest why Moënghus would need to be exiled. Even if he learned Aghurzoi, what might a Sranc or Ursranc tell him that would lead him taint him? If he met a Nonman, he could have learned of sorcery. If he met a human, he could have learned of history. The same for the ruins of the former Kûniüri empire and so the lineage of the Anasûrimbor. Plausibly, something of the same for Nonman ruins. None of this really seems all that tainting. But wait, we once asked Bakker about this very topic. My emphasis added. My above analysis is presuming that it was something Moënghus learned that lead him to not be fit to be allowed back to Ishuäl. But cagey, cagey Bakker points out, it was what Moë experienced that left him unfit for return. I asked Bakker, in that thread a follow up question (followed by Bakker's answer): So, wait, I took this to mean that Moënghus was yet another Anasûrimbor prodigy and so the Pragma felt no right to demand he kill himself. I don't this is what he meant though. It wouldn't make much sense to allow a prodigy to go on a seemingly suicidal mission to scout out Sranc anyway. No, I think, again, Bakker is being cagey with his wording here. Moënghus didn't leave Ishuäl the first time as their better, he returned to Ishuäl as their better. What? Why would tracking Sranc better Moënghus? Because, just as Kellhus learned when he left Ishuäl, Moënghus experienced domination. He experienced that Sranc could be manipulated (as his latter appearance to Scylvendi in the "captivity" of Sranc shows). He probably experienced that world-born men could be dominated as if children. He returned to Ishuäl knowing full well that he was more, the full power of the Dûnyain. The Logos unleashed. He had a taste of the power that the Logos offers. Why give it up? Rather, he chose to leave Ishuäl. This is also why he chose to head south. He must have known that was where human civilization was. He would go there and he would dominate it. A Dûnyainic dynasty to lead and guide Men. But he made the first major blunder with choosing the Psûkhe and so the rest is history, as they say.
  12. Nah, i know, I saw that. They sold a TGO ARC last year too. Yeah, once there is a price point set, it usually opens up. But if they start at a bill, no way am I getting one unless through the kindness of strangers.
  13. Allegedly. Probably, I mean I am not in a position to be paying $100 for a book I'll be buying twice more, in any case.
  14. Good lord. Well, I had no intentions of paying that much for one anyway.