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  1. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4900038/GOT-s-Emilia-Clarke-dyes-hair-blonde.html So Emilia has dyed her hair platinum-blonde right before filming starts. I assume it's mostly for shit and giggles (and as a nice nod to her character). Will they continue to have her use a wig, or will they now use her normal hair as a foundation and give her extensions, or will they really give Dany a brand new hairdo in S8. Thoughts? Edit: I guess Dany suddenly becoming short-haired would fit with the "Third and last last shocking revelation" that supposed to happen in S8. I'm not really worried either way, the makeup-team has proven themselves to be very competent, they can probably make it work.
  2. I thought it was safe to assume that most (all?) Wildlings who didn't flee south of the wall are dead at this point, having been hunted down by the WW's and added to the AotD. It certainly seemed that way when Tormund said that "most of the Wildlings are at Hardhome", and we know what happened at Hardhome. :/ As for the White Walkers, they may or may not end up defeated next season. If they end up defeated, there is very little point in the continued existence of the Nightswatch. Edit: @Meera of Tarth We'll just have to agree to disagree on the flow of time in the show. We can probably both agree on the fact that the show could've done a much better job of telling the audience how much time that actually passes during the episodes/seasons, so we wouldn't have to assume, estimate and go by the very few instances where people actually talk about how old they are. Due to the lack of actual evidence and facts given to us both by the show, we're both end up having to assume how much time that actually passes, and neither of us will be able to convince the other. I'm sticking with the "1 season is roughly 1 year"-theory, especially since it removes or explains many of the strange time-jumps and quick-travels that occur on-screen and simply makes more sense to me.
  3. He didn't twist your words, it was his way of saying that Jamie, Brienne and possibly Sandor have a large chance of ending up dead, so there won't be a happy romance in the end for these pairings.
  4. This is something I've been thinking about for some time, and there doesn't really seem to be a general consensus on the matter. How good a swordsman is Jon supposed to be in season 7? His skill has improved over the course of the series, Jon of season 7 is a much better fighter than he was when he got his ass kicked by Karl Tanner in season 4. He definitely has swordsmanship in his blood, both of his parents where good fighters in their own right. He's fought and survived several battles (Hardhome, BotBastards, the Wight-raid), partly due to plot-armour but also due to his own skill. He evidently has no problems defeating wights, regular soldiers, and even a White Walker poses little actual threat to him in a 1v1. (With that said, we don't really know how good of a fighter a White Walker actually is, they seem to rely more on the fact that they're immune to mundane weaponry than actual martial prowess.) Ramsay comments about Jons swordsmanship in S6E9: "I keep hearing stories about you bastard, the way the people in the north talk about you you're the greatest swordsman that ever walked. Maybe you are that good.", and Ramsay wasn't exactly a slouch in combat himself. So how good is Jon compared to other renown westerosi swordsmen of history? How good is he if we only compare him to people who are currently alive?
  5. Fair enough, and yes we probably do, as usual.
  6. Warm clothes and pure badassery?
  7. I think you misquoted me - I said that the "you need the bad pussy"-comment was worse than Ebola. I have no issues with them taking care of Jons body, etc.
  8. Not even Ebola is that bad...
  9. Why they where so protective of Jons corpse is anyone's guess. Probably loyalty, it was his closest friends who guarded his remains (and Davos ) after all. Perhaps they didn't want Throne & Co to mutilate it or something, or make sure he was buried/burned with dignity. Tormund probably let the ritual pass because he realized that Melissandre's attempt to resurrect Jon would (if it worked) end in an actual resurrection, and not just the walking-dead reanimation that White Walkers do, and because he considered Jon a friend at this stage and probably wanted to, at the very least, give it a try. He looks very skeptical during the ritual though, and he's (if I recall) the one who breaks the silence with his comment about fetching wood for the pyre.
  10. To be fair to the show, Tormund did go to get wood for a funeral pyre after Mel's resurrection "failed".
  11. @Tagganaro - Agreed. Despite it's many flaws, I'd say Game of Thrones is in a league of it's on as far as TV-shows are concerned. Heck, I know people who have zero interest in fantasy (be it literature, movies or TV) who are glued to the screen watching Game of Thrones whenever a new episode airs.
  12. I don't think he knows, but even if he did I don't really think he'd care enough to bring it up. He has no reason to like Randyll (after what Sam told him), and he has no relation with Dickon. Dany and the Tarlys are (or rather, were) at war - The Tarlys could've just as easily had died on the battlefield. Just because they somehow survived the battle and was brought before her as PoW's doesn't mean she must show them mercy; as the victor she can have them executed for whatever reasons she fancies, at least she gave Randyll several choices and he chose death. Technically Dany could've sentenced Randyll to death for treason (he did betray her ally, Olenna Tyrell) just as Jon would've sentenced Smalljon Umber and Rickard Karstark to death if they had survived the Battle of the Bastards. They might bring it up in regards to Sam at some point: "Hey Sam, nice to see you. By the way, my wife-to-be had your father and brother executed, no hard feelings right?". He'll get over it though I'm sure, he hated his father and he's pragmatic enough to realize that Dickon chose his own fate. If anything their deaths might open up the fact that Sam might end up Lord Tarly of Horn Hill and Warden of the South in the end. It's not like the Nightswatch is needed with all the Wildlings south of the wall and the White Walkers defeated.
  13. "I will not punish a son for the sins of his father." Being a blood relative doesn't automatically make you like someone, especially if you never met the person and have no relation with them. He can still hate his grandfather for killing his other grandfather, we don't get to chose our parents and grandparents.
  14. Yes: "Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come." And it ends when you die. Jon died in S5E10.
  15. Well, possibly. They don't seem to be in a rush though, and if there's any truth behind the "It was a trap from the NK"-theory it makes sense that they would wait until Daenerys showed up anyway, so they could let the lake refreeze on it's own.
  16. It's an interesting analysis and I agree with many of the points you make. However, I don't think that Jon and Frodo are supposed to be each others counterparts in the two sagas. Are there parallels between Jon and Frodo? Absolutely, quite a few actually as you point out. But there are also many parallels between Jon and Aragorn: - Both begin their stories as underdogs of sorts. Jon is a bastard with all that entails, who don't know who his mother is and is hated by his stepmom. Aragorn is "one of them rangers", feared and almost hated by the common folk around Bree. He's a good wayfinder and fighter, but just as with Jon, there's nothing inherently royal about either of them, and initially it's hard to foresee how big their characters will eventually get. - Both initially went into exile of sorts and tried to avoid their destiny. Both failed. - Both are the front figures in the war against evil and leaders of men. Aragorn is the enemy of Sauron and Jon is the enemy of the Nightking. - Neither of them actually want the responsibility of being in charge, or to be king. The responsibility is thrust upon them and they both begrudgingly accept the responsibility because they know that there's no better choice and because the realm needs them, not because they actually want to rule. I hope we see more parallels between them before the series is over. - Aragorn ended up marrying the woman he loves, despite this marriage being somewhat controversial, and despite there being some initial attempts to prevent it. Once the dust had settled and evil was vanquished however, they ruled as benevolent king and queen. Hopefully Jon and Dany get the same ending as Aragorn and Arwen. It's not impossible actually. With all that said, while there are parallels between Jon and Frodo/Aragorn, I'd say one is making it too easy for themselves by saying that they are mirrors of each other. GRRM is clearly influenced by Tolkien, so elements of Frodo and Aragorn are visible in Jon, but Jon is very much his own man and may end up having a different fate.
  17. I'm glad someone brought this up. I've seen so many "Jon's an idiot, the northern lords will hate him for this"-posts here recently. Jon (and Danerys) know there will be tension after his decision to bend the knee, but he believes the matter will be resolved. No one can argue with the fact that it's very much a part of Jon's character to do what he considers the right thing, even if people will disagree with him - to the point that they plot to kill him. Saving the Wildlings and letting them trough the gate was the right thing to do even if the NW and the Wildlings have a long history of animosity and it would cause some massive tension within the NW. Bending the knee to Daenerys after she risked her own and her dragons life to come and save him was the right thing to do, even if it was technically pointless for him at that point and would cause tension with his subjects. Refusing Cerseis request and openly admitting that he had already bent the knee to Daenerys was the right thing to do, even if lying would've given them what they wanted (or at least they thought so.)
  18. No Tormund and Brienne? I would say that there's much more unrequited love between those two than between Dany and Tyrion. At least we know that Tormund is into Brienne, while it's really up in the air if Tyrion has that sort of feelings for Dany. (If he has, then the show really a shoddy job depicting it.) Tyrion might end up with Sansa, they have yet to consummate their marriage after all, but I can also see him ending up alone. He has had two romantic relationships after all, and they both ended catastrophically.
  19. I can at least (try) to rationalize that even if they really should've explained it better. It's possible that they where so close to the wall that Gendry could run back in X amount of hours, and just because we only saw 1 night pass doesn't mean that only 1 night passed; if they spent 4-5 days on that isle - It takes much longer than 1 day for a lake to refreeze to the point that it would be able to carry the weigh of that many humans - then the timeframe might add up. But yeah... Euron rolling up with a 1000 ships by S7E1? You have to look into the realms of gods, magic and deus ex machinas in order to explain that.
  20. Aye, some things doesn't fit within the time frame. The dragons aging much faster between seasons than everyone else is one of those things. I guess we can blame magic on that one though, perhaps dragons age in bursts? Little Sam is a good point though, he should be almost 4 by the end of season 7 but he seems to be somewhere between 2-3 in S7E5. I guess we can always blame it (or rationalize it) on the fact that they didn't find a suitable child-actor to fill the role.
  21. Ironically, this is more plausible than Euron & Co building 1000 ships in 6 months.
  22. You need to stop focusing on the comments from Davos and Tyrion. There are many other hints throughout S7 of how Jon and Dany are falling for each other. If you didn't notice them, it's your loss I'm afraid. Also, what experiences did Jon and Ygritte share before they had sex? They walked around in the north for a short while, Ygritte tried to seduce him, he get's captured, feigns allegiance to the wildlings and on their way back to the wall she tricks him and strips naked in front of him which causes him to...cave in I suppose. Jon did come to love Ygritte after this, I agree, but when they had sex he didn't love her (if he did, the show did a shitty job of showing it), he was simply very attracted to her. Why was it OK for Jon and Ygritte to go from doing nothing intimate into having sex (especially when they weren't really in love yet), but forced when Jon and Dany does the same thing, albeit with the massive difference that they are in love by the time they have sex? I personally prefer the kind of romance where love comes before the sex, but maybe that's just me. https://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/70x0qt/tv_results_of_the_postseason_7_survey/ Almost 28.000 votes, 83% are fine with their relationship and only 17% are against it. But it's an established fact that one year passes during the course of a season. You might not agree with it, but it changes nothing. Jon and Dany are both 17 at the start of S1 and 23 by the end of S7. Sansa is 13 at the start of S1 and 19 by the end of S7. Time passes not only between seasons, and episodes, but also between scenes. Take S7 E5 for instance: With less than 25% of the episode, Jon leaves Dragonstone and sails for Eastwatch. By the end of the same episode, he arrives. This is a journey that would've taken weeks, and so weeks has passed in the show, in the short span of ~20 minutes of actual show-time. It is on occasion a complete mess though, as you say, but it would explain some of the stranger time jumps and why sometimes people seem to quick travel from point A to point B. Again, Sansa didn't say that she hadn't "seen" Jon in weeks, she said she hadn't "heard" from him in weeks, which is a massive difference. We also don't know exactly how long time that passes after Daenerys rescues Jon & Co and until they reach King's Landing - probably some more weeks, and this time it happened off-screen between episode 6 and 7. This isn't always the case though; Between S5 and S6 no time at all passed, in fact less than 30 minutes pass between the end scene of S5 and the first scene of S6. It's safe to say however, that by the end of season 7, an event that occurred in season 3 (like Theons torture by Ramsay) would've happened "years ago" (3-4 to be exact.)
  23. This sums up your post; you assume too much. You can't have all the iron islanders work on bots for 6 months, then have half of them (women) make sails for 2 months (while also apparently still working on boats to fit the timeframe), while also giving them time to sail over to the mainland and cut down two million trees (your own math). I'm not even gonna continue this discussion because thats how silly I find it to be. I commend your tenacity for defending the biggest plothole of season 7, but in the real world, what the ironborn achieved is impossible.