Zapho

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  1. Great analysis. Joffrey as the one who sent the catspaw always bothered me a bit because it seemed to be so illogical. You made me realize that that's probably the point: he doesn't act all that rationally. The whole thing is pretty ironic too. He accidentally set off a chain of events that led to his own death because he felt he needed to live up to some sort of standard his father set (in his mind). I always thought there was a lot of insecurity underlying Joff's cruelty. He's a coward who desperately wants to be admired as a hero. This ambivalence alone explains the choice of the dagger imo. He thinks of the murder as a princely act of mercy (I am a hero). But he won't do it himself. Hi hires a lowly assassin (coward). He feels the need to claim this act for himself though, that's why he equips the hand that does it with a princely weapon. The dagger is his proxy, subconsciously. He never intended to boast about the deed or claim it. The assassin wasn't supposed to be caught and was probably ordered to bring the dagger back. He wanted to have the knowledge he did it for himself.
  2. I don't like it either and I agree that they should have chosen another name. Not Viserys or Aemon though, because they were alive as well and afaik the Targaryens never named anyone in the family after someone who was still alive. Could be wrong about this though. I'd personally like Aemon, but Viserys still feels off to me because Rhaegar's brother was more or less the same age so not technically of the same generation but somewhat too close. It might have been Lyanna's decision to name him Aegon after his dead brother if she knew about it. An attempt at honoring him in a way. Wouldn't be her only bad choice.
  3. Would you honestly want to watch all those talking scenes where they cleared up whose second son now has which castle? I don't know. Maybe they'll do a DVD bonus thing about it. If enough people actually cared.
  4. Stannis token force is the least of the problems. Stannis is dead and he had burned his own daughter. A lot of his people were unhappy about the power Melisandre had over him. I can easily believe that his sacrificing Shireen for nothing and the utter defeat he suffered in the North were seen as some sort of divine sign that his cause was wrong. They'd probably not want to follow Cersei if they believe that her children were bastards. So bending the knee to Dany without putting up much of a fight would make sense. It's not shown, but I think it didn't need to be, cause they had not much of an alternative. Dany came with Dragons, Dothraki, Unsullied and their Lord was dead, his house defeated and gone. I bet they didn't even put up a fight. I agree that the moral dilemma is not the best motive. While it's in character for Dany to care about innocent victims, she can't possibly be naive enough to believe that there won't be any when she comes to claim the Iron Throne with fire and blood. Neither does she on the show. Hers and Tyrion's concerns were about her bringing foreign forces along to do it. Especially the Dothraki. Which is exactly the argument Cersei uses against her. I think the show could have made more of this angle. Dany is way too powerful at the start of season 7 and Cersei is too weak. The way it's been portrayed how that is almost reversed in 3 episodes casts doubts on her intelligence and/or Tyrion's true allegiance. And it makes Jamie and Cersei suddenly look more clever than they are. A better way to bring it about would be a more realistic shift in power. Cersei's alliance with Euron and Randyll Tarly make a limited amount of sense but they need a better motivation. It's stupid to ally yourself with a weakened Queen when the other one has dragons and plenty of fighters. Dany needs to face some real problems and there are a lot of realistic possibilities: Cersei has access to several anti-dragon weapons, and not just the scorpions. Not because Qyburn invented them on the fly but because some old Maester has spent a lifetime studying the problem a hundred years ago. The methods are not some arcane secrets either but well known to military strategists. Dany did land several thousand Dothraki somewhere in Westeros, maybe the Westerlands or even the Reach. A sizable proportion of them deserted (chose a new Khal and declared independence) and devastates the land. This would give credence to a lot of lords turning to Cersei. Randyll Tarly could still have been the figurehead on the show, but it would be clear he wasn't the only one and their motivation woud make more sense. Of course, Dany would lose the moral high ground then and that's probably why the show avoided something like that. Dany has massive logistical problems because there is not enough food for all her fighters. She needs to resort to feeding them by reaving which leads to the same consequence as in the last option. There's a rebellion in Dorne against the Sandsnakes for the murder of their Prince and his heir and because not all Dornish feel that killing an innocent girl is an adequate revenge against the Lannisters. Prince Oberyn himself never did. Give some hint that Euron fights dirty like in the books. Some magic that explains why the Silence is not seen until it's too late and never heard. The Faith Militant was hated by some powerful groups and Cersei is their hero for blowing them up. Though I don't like that one it is maybe not impossible.
  5. Have about 10.000 Dothraki (or maybe more) abandon Dany once they reach Westeros and go raiding through several kingdoms. Cersei'd suddenly be an acceptable 'protector of the realm', whatever she did to the Sept. What they did on the show with Randyll Tarly wasn't such a stupid idea basically. He abandoned the Tyrells because of ambition and concern about the Dothraki savages. If the latter was portrayed more convincingly and with a basis in reality and if Tarly wasn't the only Lord shown to be suddenly supporting Cersei, we'd have a much more believable conflict. It would also address a logistical problem that is hardly ever mentioned: how is Dany feeding all those Dothraki and their horses? 100.000 cavalry eat a lot. It's never addressed in the show and for some reason it doesn't even get mentioned a lot in the criticisms of the show. Answer could be: It is a problem for Dany and it has consequences. They abandon her because she won't let them get food the way they used to do.
  6. Hm, it's the only thing that makes even remotely some sense. Let's think it through. I suppose LF met with both Roose and Ramsay and he would have realized that Ramsay intended to become the next Lord Bolton sooner rather than later. Roose' marriage with Fat Walda was a danger to that plan because legitimised or not, Ramsay was a bastard and a trueborn son with a highborn mother would always have the better claim. If Ramsay had been as cunning as his father (which he was not), he could have made Sansa his ally in bringing Roose down. The rest of the North hated Roose (most of them at least) for the Red Wedding. Ramsay had no part in it and he is just his bastard. As Sansa's husband, he could believably conspire with other lords against his own father. He has some credit for being the one who got rid of the Ironborn in the North. If something like that had been LF's mad gamble, he should at least have explained it to Sansa, provided her with some allies in form of a couple of handmaides who can handle a weapon and give her some poison just in case.
  7. I actually like that detail quite a bit. She had to ask the Maester for Sansa's name and still got it wrong. The kid had her priorities straight.
  8. Maybe he overestimated Sansa's ability to play the game. And she overestimated herself too. She never tried to get allies within the household, she didn't try to kill Ramsay, she didn't insist on being treated like a lady or try to flee sooner...
  9. Catelyn is one of my least favorite characters because she is selfish, stupid and arrogant. Though there's nothing to be said against how she is portrayed or how the actress presented her. That was well done. I'll go with characters I think are horribly done in the show for my least favorites and those I like the best for one personal reason or another for my favorites. 1. Ellaria and the Sand Snakes are horrible in all respects. Not very well done and in-universe despicable. The way they take revenge on the Lannisters is exactly what Prince Oberyn would never have stooped to do: killing the innocent girl. They made me cheer for Cersei in the Queen's justice and that is unforgivable. 2. I can't stand Jaime. That's mostly to do with how he's portrayed as some sort of tragic hero and fans are falling for it, so we'll get to see more of it. He's in no way a hero. He's a real whiner. Instead of standing up to the reasons why he killed Aerys he's whining about being an Oathbreaker. When he could have tried to protect Elia and her children he instead sits whining on the Iron Throne until Ned arrives. And then there's "The things I do for love." I'm really looking forward to how he'll arrive alone in Winterfell next season and everyone will immediately make him the military commander. Because there really isn't a reason he shouldn't be executed on the spot or suspected as a spy for Cersei or a danger to Dany's remaining dragons. 3. Varys' character doesn't make much sense imo. Might change in season 8 though. My favorite characters are Olenna, Gilly and Shireen. Olenna is just bad-ass, Gilly is incredibly brave in her own way, and Shireen is imo the most tragic figure overall.
  10. The most likely consequence would have been an early widowhood for the girl and a forced stay in a monastery for the rest of her life if they failed to run away very quickly and hide themselves very well.
  11. I'd center the conflict between Arya and Sansa about a revelation that Sansa had some choice in marrying Ramsay and still did it. No Wight hunt. Have Jon convince Dany to visit the Wall and see for herself. She takes a flight over the land, Jon is with her, they spot the army of the dead and attack with the Dragons. Then the NK shows up and kills Viserion. Something like that.
  12. That's a very good point to bear in mind when it comes to Sansa's decision to marry Ramsay Bolton. Which is horribly naive and stupid on her part. Even if Ramsay had treated her just fine, it's political suicide. Think about it: she married into the family who betrayed her own family and thus legitimised their claim on the North. There's no way around it: she is a traitor. Imo, the show didn't do enough to show the consequences of this act. It was only once pointed out to her when she went to the Northern lords with Jon. And only once did she admit herself that her position is precarious because she was married to two enemies of the North. It wasn't made clear enough that it's probably the reason Jon was acclaimed King in the North, not her, the legitimate heir. Arya's suspicions of her are completely understandable because of that marriage and her continuing reliance on the person who brokered it. That should have been the bone of contention between them, not the letter she wrote in the hope of saving their father's life. The marriage itself makes some sense in LF's schemes. If Sansa had started rallying the Northern lord to her instead of marrying Ramsay, then allied herself with Stannis, she would have been in a much stronger position, not dependant on LF. LF weakened her claim on purpose so he could ride in as the Knight in shining armor. It didn't quite work because of Jon. Which was probably unexpected. It gave the Northern lords an alternative to Sansa - and they took it. That the Boltons took the chance to be alienated from the Crown is not that surprising. They needed the marriage to legitimize their claim on Winterfell in the eyes of the Northerners. Cersei is far away and was unlikely to send help in case the lords rebelled against them - which was probably just a question of time. I suppose Roose intended to hand Sansa over once she had given Ramsay enough children to continue his family's claim on the North. And I suppose it was the reason he allowed Ramsay to treat her so horribly. Cersei would have liked that and it would have gone a long way in his favor when he would have gone to ask forgiveness instead of permission.
  13. Am I the only one who thinks that show Euron is way better than book Euron? An idiot like that is exactly the ally Cersei deserves. They are perfect for each other. The look on her face when he 'proposes' is priceless. You can see her backstabbing him already.
  14. We really need to get a somewhat realistic approximation of the time they would have had to spend on that rock in a frozen or not so frozen lake. Do we have any indication that ravens in universe fly faster than normal ravens? There is a bit about the pious king Baelor wanting to raplace ravens with doves at one time in TWoIaF and it didn't work out. In RL, doves are preferred as messenger birds. In-universe they aren't. Is speed a factor? Bearing in mind that the know-it-all-at-once device in-universe is a three-eyed raven? 4 to 5 days seems to be the minimum to me too. I have less of a problem with the NK giving them the time than them being stupid enough to not realize that something fishy was going on when the NK gave them that much time. The NK had nothing to lose. It didn't matter to him whether he killed them instantly or 5 days later. But he also had nothing to gain from waiting for no reason. Therefore, he had a reason. He either had a plan from the start or he simply saw a chance to get more out of it than about 10 new wights.
  15. Lol, you guys take shipping too seriously. With only 6 episodes left and so many things to resolve, there won't be much time for romance plots except Jon and Dany.