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  1. The idea that there are no "villains" is going a little too far. While GRRM is very much a follower of "we are all the heroes of our own story" there are some characters who I would say are irredeemably "evil", or at least hideously horrible, people. Euron Greyjoy is probably the worst so far and has the potential to be one of the biggest threats to the realm at the moment if even a few of his plans get off the ground. If TWoW preview chapter is anything to go by, his revolting actions against his family and followers is only going to be the top of the iceberg. Ramsay Bolton isn't truly the most conniving or even compelling villain though I don't think anyone could really make an argument that he is anything other than a wretched human being for his torture of people who are helpless and weak. I cannot think of a single thing he has done that could be viewed as redeemable - he is just an ugly human being, inside and out. One could argue that his father, Roose Bolton, is not much better either. While not quite as revolting as Ramsay, acknowledging that his son is a horrible and dreadful person, his apathy towards everything makes him a more sophisticated villain. The way he coldly plotted against Robb, manipulated him and then aided in his assassination makes him hard to see the good in either. Joffrey Baratheon was only thirteen when he was killed but I think we can all agree that he would only have got worse once he'd come of age. Much like Ramsey, he gets pleasure out of harming others with virtually no softer side to him. He was also something of a product of his upbringing, being conceived in spite as his mother Cersei Lannister wished to give her husband horns as revenge for his own whoring. Cersei could be argued to be a little too self-destructive to be a full-blooded villain but, again, that is part of what makes her so compelling to be in the head of. Not only is she paranoid but she is also narcissistic. Yet, she commits acts of cruelty without a second thought and, as Littlefinger correctly assesses, she wants power just for the sake of it - having no idea what she wants to do with it and is willing to do awful things to do it. We could go on but I'll leave it there for now. The point is that even when we get inside their heads, like Cersei, doesn't make them a heroic figure - if anything it makes you realise how warped and pathetic the emperor is without his clothes, if you know what I mean. If you want to have the straightforward villains who clearly just get pleasure from the cruelty they can enact on others - Euron, Ramsay and Joffrey are good places to start alone.
  2. I think he would have done the same for any of his family. That is our tragic hero's fatal flaw -- his loyalty to his family. He was closer to Arya, sure, but if Jon had been told it was Sansa being abused, imprisoned and raped by Ramsay night after night, he still would have sought to rescue her. She is still his sister. As for Jon romancing Arya, I think with the plot we've got now - absolutely not. Yes, they are close. However, one could also argue that Jon and Arya's closeness as siblings makes it virtually impossible for them to fall in love that way. They think of each other in such a sincerely sweet sibling manne, I doubt it will happen. In comparison, one could argue the relative distance between Jon and Sansa would make it easier for them to look at each other in a non-sibling way. Even then, I doubt it. The bottom line is that all the Stark children were raised in a close and healthy environment as siblings and aren't going to switch mindsets even if it is revealed Jon is their cousin. Thus, I doubt Jon will be getting with either of his cousin-sisters. Much more likely he'll end up with someone like Val or even Daenerys, if she ever points her bloomin' dragons towards Westeros.
  3. Tommen in the books is very brave on top of it all, as shown in that mock tourney in ACoK, as well as sweet and gentle. Given that even Joffrey's death was gruesome to read, I think Tommen's will be heart breaking. Myrcella, too.
  4. I really wouldn't be surprised if the Azor Ahai legend of Lightbringer and the prophecy of his return is supposed to be symbolic. My belief has always been that there is no single AA/TPtwP and that there might be many ways several people can fit the clauses. There is a reason why there are so many AA theories out there. For example, Daenerys Targaryen could be argued to fit the clauses on a literal level whereas Jon Snow can be argued to fit on a symbolic level. There something bittersweet about the idea that Rhaegar was 'The Prince that was Promised', because then it weirdly means the foretold hero to save the world is long dead before the beginning and it is his "Lightbringer" - his third child - who must be the weapon to save the world.
  5. That annoyed me, too. There really isn't any logical reason that Bran wouldn't have heard her the first time if he could the second time. Feels like it was all a contrivance to make Sam relevant. And bring us that awful, dumbed down narration over #boatincest2017. Another good point. Guess they thought reunions and sitting in silence waiting for Daenerys made more sense than having Jon and Brienne kill time by having a chat. Honestly, I'm actually really curious as to where he's going with this. The ideas aren't perfect but they make a lot more sense than what we got so far. The fact that it is so easy for us to "fix" S7 from the benefit of hindsight shows that what GoT really needed was a few more editors to keep the plot straight.
  6. Wow, this escalated quickly. Anyways... I'm happy to see someone else who is pointing out that Tormund is creeping on Brienne. His attentions are clearly not welcome by her and it stopped being "quirky and cute", like, with the awkward dinner scene back in S6. Their focusing on it almost feels like pandering now. That said, if there is an altercation between Jaime and Tormund, it'll probably be to bring some comic relief or something. Expecting anything much in the way of ships sailing into the sunset in the show doesn't feel likely. I have said before that much of the popular ships feel like they are doomed for at least one of the pair dying. If this were the books, maybe. You can have the survivors pair off and still have it feel bittersweet, especially when you have two tomes of 15,000+ pages still to go. In the show, it would be hard to sell any of the popular ships without it feeling like too many characters survived because the cast is much smaller and the plot might tighter now... if that makes sense. But yeeeeeeeeaaaaah, I agree that - at best - SamAndGilly will make it to the end, and maybe, just maybe, Jon and Daenerys will. But I kinda hope not for pathos sake more than anything.
  7. Honestly, I like your explanation better than any other I have seen so far.
  8. Headcanon accepted!
  9. That would be very sad, almost like "Suicide by police". Fighting Ned and his six good men might have seemed like a more honourable death than being captured and taken by Robert.
  10. Here is something that ties into what we were discussing earlier about Hodor as well as tying back into the moral code and knowledge of Haggon for the skinchanger that came to me on the train home today. Specifically, the notion of the relationship between a skinchanger and their host being a two-way relationship and that both parties will change as a result of this relationship. So, Haggon really wasn't big on skinchanging into many other animals and preferred wolves, like a typical warg. However, we know from the Varamyr-Eagle!Orell relationship that the claiming of any animal, not just wolves, can influence the feelings of the skinchanger. We all know how much animosity Orell still had for Jon Snow after he killed him even after dying and beginning his second life in his eagle; even trying to rip out Jon's eyes. Varamyr reflects that, This indicates that not only is Orell still there and unhappy at having a "three-is-a-crowd" going on in his second life but also that his emotions towards Jon were so strong that they spread to Varamyr. They share emotions and it spreads from Orell, to his eagle, and to Varamyr. All in all, this really did get me thinking about the relationships between our other warg/skinchanger characters, and none more so than Bran and Hodor. We can often credit Bran with having the dominant and forceful personality of the two that it is easy to forget the two-way relationship involved in skinchanging. So, I'm curious how people think the two of them might be changing as a result of their "skin-sharing" scheme. How might they influence each other? How might they come to experience or even acquire each other's feelings?
  11. *sniff* You can say that again. I even quite liked him in the show, too. Once.
  12. True. We really don't know much about what happened that day at all. We only have Ned's fever dream of what happened and the only character who can tell an alternative version at this point is Howland. *Cue all the jokes on just how he managed to save Arthur's life.* I do think that the Kingsguard likely were the ones to initiate the fight, though. For some reason, they just wouldn't budge. Maybe they'd heard what happened to Aegon and Rhaenys and were worried the same fate could await their newborn prince? It might come down to those conflicting rules that the knights' and Kingsguard oaths they have to follow, or maybe it is due to Arthur's personal relationship with Rhaegar. A promise he made?
  13. Well, duh! They're being produced in the factory that made all those Littlefinger jetpacks that now everyone uses!
  14. My guess was that the Kingsguard were given orders to protect Lyanna and Jon from anyone who might turn up, at all costs, so, the Magnificent Seven had to fight to get by. Plus, at this point, Ned and company probably still thought they were retrieving Lyanna from captivity. I agree, it feels a little silly that no one thought to say, "Hey, can we sit down and discuss it?"
  15. Sure, but I question whether the script made it clear in the first place, or if it was there to begin with and this literally was a sudden emphasis added in S7.