Indigo Cloak

So when we win for once, we can't brag? I need the boost, as I'm a Harlequins Rugby Union fan :( But thanks, I'll stay shtum on the Ashes front.

Hey, I'm Jac. I'm British and a Med-student, and came here because I've gotten dangerously involved in Martin's series, love to spout my opnion and discuss anything and this seemed like the place. I was at Wotmania for a bit, but it's shutting now, and aSoIaF is better than WoT overall anyway, for me, now. Except Rand. Don't mess with Rand.

This verb and its connotations of strength are where the late latin valor come from.

Has anyone commented on this yet? ACOK Spoiler: SPOILER: ACOK SpoilerI noticed a LOT of similarities between Renly/Loras and Achilles/Patroclus. Both are a pair of lovers, a "knight" and his squire, driven to grief, rage and vengeance by the death of one of the pair. Because of this, I think Loras will survive to eventually kill either Stannis or Melissandre later in the story. Also, in each case, it was Renly/Patroclus' death that lead to Loras and his Tyrells/Achilles and his Myrmiddons to set aside differences with the royal family to defeat a common foe