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  1. Well, it seems also that engineers of the events can be caught, there is little doubt that Twyin is in large part responsible for the Red Wedding. But as others have said Jon knew nothing of the infiltration plot, he sent Mance to find, well, Lady Karstark, but he didn't know that at the time.
  2. Using his booming voice, NO, we must support the Rightful King Stannis, as per the treaty made by King Torrhen and our obligation to House Baratheon or something, but he did not. He didn't really find his backbone until they named him King.
  3. Well, Robb did not go South to become King, he went to relieve the Riverlands and force the Lannisters to free his Father and Sisters. That's it. After stuff happened, his Bannermen got angry and proclaimed him King, he really should have refused but he did not for whatever reason. We weren't in his head. He was toast after that, literally nobody who would end up on the Iron Throne would support that shit.
  4. Agreed 100%, he would have likely won that if there was any real evidence against Joffrey, but there was not, just a bunch of mostly dead bastard children having dark hair v. Joff, and co. That's probably why he didn't.
  5. If Euron leads them to ruin, there is plenty of evidence to suggest that he is using the strength of the Iron Islands to elevate himself on their skeletons. I don't think Theon survives though.
  6. I mean, I don't hate it, but I will shrug when I read it because there's been like 50 threads on this very subject on this forum, graduating one to the next, the only longer one being Heresy. So, ya, been there done that is more of the reaction I see, and what I fee.
  7. Arya desperate to reach her Father as he's executed.
  8. I agree, but I don't know that he made that association, I agree he would have included her, but I don't think he did, merely through lack of information.
  9. I mean, it's not complimentary to Gilly, but it's an insult to her baby, not Gilly herself.
  10. Lol Texas Hold Em, you haven't seen the contract, so you know... and there's a reason why the Insurance industry pays more punitive damages that any other industry when damages are assessed by a court. To my mind, most of the above, but also Vic putting a four or five slave women on a boat and lighting it on fire, it's never mentioned.
  11. Probably smuggled North, married to Ramsay for reals, and beaten and tortured. There is no way she is turned over to Cat and Robb unless Roose decided to kill her at the Red Wedding, but I don't think that had been fully planned by the time he quit from Harrenhall.
  12. Tyrion's only crime I care about is essentially funding and equipping a bunch of terrorists in the Vale who raid and capture mostly smallfolk. He traded himself for the smallfolk of the Vale. We are hearing about the beginning of what that means in the Sansa chapters after Storm.
  13. The allies after world war 2 were not very pleasant to anyone who had collaborated with the Nazis, like they had any choice in the matter. A woman slept with a Nazi officer? Shave her head for shame...well, it's not as bad as in the Riverlands, but it's not so far from, the enemy to you helped the enemy, and traitors deserve everything they get, with no examination that the smallfolk had no freaking choice in the matter. Robb is not a glowing example of equality, I don't remember him ever really caring about the smallfolk one way or the other, instead chastising Edmure for doing so. And ya, he wanted the Ironborn to raid and what? Take a bunch of Westerlands saltwives, that's what. And he put Bolton in charge of the eastern force, well, it's not as explicit as putting Gregor or the Brave Companions out there, but it's also not something someone more aware, like Ned would have done. Robb was desperate though, I still think he's quite a bit better than Tywin, and that Robb's own force would never torture or rape people, they still might burn the granaries and such though, which, well, starvation isn't exactly nice either.
  14. That whole chapter reads like a joke to me a sarcastic homage to the Legolas and Gimli fighting Orcs at Helm's Deep chapter. It's stupid and if you exercise Quentyn from the book, that's my least favourite chapter.
  15. The present High Septon would do it if she is still intact because he doesn't seem to like Cersei anyway and he's a wheeler and dealer. But he's probably going to get killed by a Sand Snake after she realized he's not a typical dude who can be manipulated by a pretty lady.