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  1. I will likely never get through this thread (35 pages atm), but thank you all. This has been cleansing after watching that episode. Some writer described badly written "enpowered" female characters as simply scantily clad and violent. That came to mind here. I also thought of the jewel thieves in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. " Two reasons. One: we're walking, talking, bad girl cliches. "
  2. How would you rate episode 403?

    This was a great episode, really one of my favorites which doesn't included anything HUGE. However, the completely bungled direction of the Jaime/Cersei scene is problem and that brought it down to an 8.
  3. [Book Spoilers] EP 210 Discussion

    They clearly won't follow Martin's poorly chosen path for book 4. They have said Season 3 is half of book 3, I expect (with a bit of it already having happened) that book 4 will not be given it's own season and we'll see parts of it in season 4 (with the rest of book 3) and season 5 (with book 5)
  4. [Book Spoilers] EP 210 Discussion

    This reminded me of a funny story from Bruce Campbell's autobiography. He talked abut how miserable Sam Raimi was while filming "The Quick and the Dead" due to the "stars" involved. Sharon Stone would always have her cell phone stuffed somewhere in her costume and refused to stand on her mark so they could get the scene set and lit properly, in the middle of scenes, she would pull out the phone and start talking on it. Gene Hackman when asked to say a slightly different line, "That's not in the script." After his response, he would not acknowledge Raimi for the rest of the scene. Jack Palance was constantly complaining that his character wasn't heroic enough. On a day when it really came to a head, luckily Bruce Campbell was visiting on set (he's not in the movie). So Rami had the crew set up a fake scene, with cameras and everything and "filmed" Palance beating up Campbell to make him happy. They have made it very clear the Tully's are involved (though they have not been seen). The first report of the War was Ned's day on the throne where they dumped the fish in the throne room. I think it was LF who said that was Catelyn's house sigil. Many times, you've heard Tywin talking about attack the Riverlands. I posted a list of new characters confirmed by D&D (for season 3), Blackfish and Edmure were on the list.
  5. [Book Spoilers] EP 210 Discussion

    The rejoining the battle immediately is the best argument I've heard on this. I don't think it outweighs the danger issue (certainly in hindsight, but that is not relevant), but at least it puts a portion of sanity into something I've always found as a weakness in the book. (I find it a forced plot device to begin Jaime's path to redemption, I accept it, as it is the best storyline of the entire series IMO) Catelyn is taking a leap of faith on Tyrion's honor. Whether Jaime walks into KL with Brienne (and in chains) or on his own power, all that matters is whether Tyrion will honor the deal. (This all turns out moot, but that doesn't matter here). I've always assumed she informed Tyrion of this acceptance of his trade offer, to not do so would be insanity considering the dangerous terrain Jaime is about to cross. She would want Lannister patrols lout looking for him as they approach KL. A prisoner exchange can't work without both parties cooperating.
  6. [Book Spoilers] EP 210 Discussion

    Why would he kill her? She was taking him where he wanted to go and having her there made his chances better of arriving there in one piece. (whoops) They both know they are in a dangerous place, and two swords are better than one (or 3 vs 2 in the books). I realize this is how the book did it, it made no sense to me there too. (Jaime turning on her DOES make sense in terms that she wasn't letting him free and thus (in his mind) killing her meant his chances increase of survival since he could then defend himself)
  7. [Book Spoilers] EP 210 Discussion

    Not to specifically pick you out for this, but your post reminded me of this. Why is Jaime tied up? (he is in the books here too) If he gets "free" where is he going to go? They both want him to get to King's Landing and the chances of that are improved if they can both fight and defend themselves. This will lead to their fight in the river, but it made no sense to me in the books and seeing it makes it seem even less sensible.
  8. [Book Spoilers] EP 210 Discussion

    Already answered this, but it's a long thread. We don't know why since we know basically nothing about them. Maybe the howl was an order for some wights to kill him. Maybe they were focused on their current task (getting to the Fist) and couldn't be bothered. Maybe he "sensed" the obsidian that Sam (likely) has and decided that this guy is able to kill me and is cowering and best to leave well enough alone rather than force him into a fight. Maybe he is about to turn and impale him on his spear and he decided to shout, "Who wants bacon?" before he did it. Maybe he has good (but not good enough) insight into humans and sees a craven who is harmless but will perfectly spread the terror of facing his army, thus destroying the morale of his enemies. They are (possibly) completely inhuman creatures, trying to apply our motives to them is not likely to come up with good results. Tell that to Craster.
  9. [Book Spoilers] EP 210 Discussion

    Rewatch: It's snow in the Dany's wrecked Iron Throne scene, there are icicles and the set designer talked about on the production HBO Go. Jorah's look to Dany when he hands her XXD's key is priceless. 'I told you so", and then she concedes the point to him in the next scene with the buying a boat comment. Excellent. The second Other is well armored (though not in ice armor). Almost all the wights are wildlings and crows. A few random ones mixed in. Jaquan calls her Arya Stark as he leaves, was that in the books also, it's a good period for their relationship. On PP's death, the man is immolated in fire by three dragons for a LONG time. Sheesh, Khal Drogo wouldn't have survived that. Ygritte is MUCh more appealing when she isn't being the generic spitfire archetype. I hope they keep her that way. She was so annoying in her earlier episodes. (much like the book character). The episode was 63 minutes!
  10. [Book Spoilers] EP 210 Discussion

    Margery is older, but... well... just wait until ... It is pretty consistent with many "sorcerer" archetypes that they are devastatingly powerful when allowed to prepare and launch their attack, but painfully weak when attacked while unprepared. I would have preffered they had the warlocks age the dragons a bit to make the fire look a bit more proportional to their size, As others said, the chains (and the whole power of the house) seemed to be a part of PP, when he dies, so did it. We don't know what the Other thought about Sam, maybe he was more focused on their current mission (kill the intruders at the fist), maybe his cry was an order for some wights to go eat him, maybe the obsidian was sensed and he decided to leave well enough alone (since Sam wasn't attacking him with it). We know Sam is going to involved in the rout from the Fist to Craster's next season, so he's going to be running from them in a moment anyway. As for confusing my non-readers, I'm happy GOT doesn't assume we (the audience) are all boobs and can think for ourselves. Most TV assumes we are idiots and beats you over the head with any plot point. Both of my non-book watchers understood the Quorin/Jon scene perfectly. Though one of them saw it coming when Quorin pushed him down the hill. Others are the intelligent, thinking beings who are the real danger. They are the ones who threatened the Rangers in Ep 1.1, they are the ones who Craster deals with. They are the ones you saw on the horses doing things (maybe some were walking too, it was a wide shot). Wights (in modern fantasy this refers to a higher grade of zombie) are the dead people they reanimate. They both have the blue eyes. This is my complaint. Arya is a VERY valuable peice in the Game of Thrones. Once LF found out Tywin did not know who he had, I can't fathom him not making some sort of plan to get control of her before he left Harrenhall. It's like seeing a $100 bill across the street and assuming it will still be there when you walk back. It seems to me like sloppy writing, where they though "It would be great to add some drama to scene with Tywin and LF and have him notice Arya", but never then went forward and altered the outline for future episodes to deal with it.
  11. [Book Spoilers] EP 210 Discussion

    Who do you think they are? The show certainly wants us to think they are Bolton's men.
  12. [Book Spoilers] EP 210 Discussion

    So the wight on the horse is a white walker. Got it. (kidding!)
  13. [Book Spoilers] EP 210 Discussion

    http://tvline.com/2012/06/04/ratings-game-of-thrones-season-2-finale/ Great ratings numbers, up 38% from last year's finale.
  14. [Book Spoilers] EP 210 Discussion

    Those saying the White Walkers look different, please post links to pics which show this. I am looking at images from the one last season with the head, the one that adopted Craster Jr (yes I am stealing that) and the one on the horse. They look pretty much the same to me, considering they were all in the dark previously. I am still annoyed they just dropped the fact that LF knew where Arya was.