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  1. Another way to look at it is to think about how each of the regions in isolation would compare in power to a single Free City. In other words: Is the Prince of Dorne more powerful than the Ruler of Myr? Would the Storm King defeat Lys in an all out war if no other regions or cities intervened? We see in Dance that Volantis appears quite concerned about a Dothraki Khalasar smaller than Drogos - probably around 20,000 warriors therefore - moving into the region, and there was talk of burning some bridges on the Rhoyne to stop them from advancing further. Well, the King of the Reach can send 100,000 men against Volantis. Who would win in a war between the Reach and Volantis? My money is on the Reach. Of course, most of these wars are impossible, given that most men are lost in transit over the ocean, making a long lasting campaign against either enemy almost impossible. The best sailors in the world - the Ironborn - lost half their ships crossing from Westeros to Slavers Bay. So the physical barrier of the ocean makes these wars almost impossible to fight. But in sheer power terms, I think each of the Westerosi regions - of which their happens to be Nine as well, are more powerful than comparative Free Cities individually. Braavos being the only exception because of their highly defensible location. If Robert Baratheon as Lord of the Stormlands waged war against Lorath or Tyrosh, for example, I think the Stormlands would be the more powerful of the two sides.
  2. Very small ones, I believe for the most part - Braavos and Volantis perhaps excluded. But when there's fighting in the Disputed Lands or Dothraki threats on the horizon it appears to be sellswords doing almost all of the fighting.
  3. Don't be fooled into thinking that Aegon's Golden Company is the representation of the average Free City sellsword company. Martin said they vary in quality drastically, ranging from the Golden Company right at the top, to the Brave Companions right at the bottom. So maybe 10% of the Free City army would consist of Golden Company type soldiers, while at the same time a good number will be no better than Vargo Hoat or Shagwell the Fool.
  4. My point is, Westeros doesn't have as large a fleet as the Free Cities, because it doesn't need it. Tywin Lannister has 30-40 warships, not because that is all he can afford, but because that is all he needs. That could become 300-400 warships in a year, if he so chose. Add the thousand ships of the Ironborn, and the Redwynne's 200 warships, get the Stormlands, Vale, Reach, Riverlands and North to build ships as well and you would soon have a much bigger fleet than can practically be utilized. More than large enough to serve whatever strategic purpose the King on the Iron Throne desires.
  5. Just how many pro-soldiers do you imagine they have?
  6. Very true. Although, if we are talking about a hypothetical united Westeros with all its resources dedicated to the campaign, well, I can see the naval inferiority being addressed fairly quickly. Wyman Manderly built 50 warships in a year, in total secrecy. Throw in all of Tywin Lannister's gold and the Hightowers and Redwynnes resources as well, and Westeros could build a navy of thousands of ships in no time. And that's excluding the naval strength of the Ironborn.
  7. I don't see the need to go through the Dothraki Sea at all? We are only talking about the Nine Free Cities. Not the entire Essos.
  8. Recall also that in the days after the Doom, Volantis - then the most powerful Free City by some margin - tried to enlist the Storm King's help in re-establishing a new Valyrian Empire over the territory that is now the Free Cities. I don't recall the details, but the attempt failed, I believe because the Targaryens opposed it. Now, if the Storm King on his own can make a significant difference in the Free City sphere of influence, imagine what the entire Westeros, with 10 times the Storm King's numbers, could achieve. Also, it depends on whose territory the fighting is taking place. The Free Cities don't have a hope in hell of conquering Westeros from North to South. But Westeros probably would struggle to conquer the Free Cities too. Although if they can take down Braavos first in some way, I believe the others would topple quite easily in the face of a concerted, united campaign by the entire Westeros.
  9. To me the starting point would be to arrive at an accurate assessment of the comparative population numbers of the two areas. There are nine Free Cities. I'm not in the camp that believes they all dwarf the cities of Westeros. I think that Braavos and Volantis are at around twice the size of King's Landing, but I believe that most of the others fall somewhere between Lannisport and Oldtown in size. So if we give Volantis a population of 1 million, and Braavos 750,000, then the other seven would probably average around 250,000 in size. Meaning a total urban population of around 3.5 million. Now, unlike Westeros, I believe the rate of urbanisation in the Free Cities is quite high. For example, even if Braavos has 750,000 people, I don't believe that there are 20 times that many people living in its countryside. Instead, the bulk of the population seems to be inside the city, with food supply being generated by fishing, clamming, and imports. In other words, there is not a huge rural population to add to the 750,000 urbanites. These are city states, with apparently very little political power over territories more than a hundred miles away from the city itself. Except for Volantis, which seems to still have some remnant of its imperial history left in its sphere of influence. So this brings us back to the population question. If the Free Cities have a combined 3,5 million urban population, what is their total population size, including surrounding countryside under their direct control? I believe the answer is less than 10 million people. Certain less than 15 million. In contrast, Westeros has an urban population of maybe 1.5 million (including large towns), but a total population around 40 million. So about a 3-1 numerical advantage for Westeros. That is the extent of my initial thoughts. The Free Cities have the technological advantage, but if you have a truly united Westeros then I think the Free Cities would be in for a hell of a fight. Especially if you can count on the wealth of the Lannisters, Redwynnes and Hightowers combined. Remember that Paxter Redwynne has more ships than the entire Thirteen of Qarth, or Tourmaline Brotherhood, of Guild of Spicers. Likely as many ships as the entire Braavosi navy. And Tywin Lannister has uncountable millions in gold reserves. He basically makes money out of nothing in seemingly inexhaustible quantities. He is probably a match for the Iron Bank in his own right, in terms of wealth.
  10. lizard lions are not crocodiles

    I think like everything else in Martinworld they will be a super sized version of real crocodiles, and look somewhat different. Just like direwolves, aurochs, Kraken etc. I would imagine that there are snakes in the Neck that also dwarf real life Anacondas.
  11. Stannis' offer to Jon

    The OP's argument now seems to have devolved not to who has the right to award titles in the eyes of Westerosi, but rather who has that right in the eyes of the "reader". In that case, since the majority of the readership believes that Jon is in fact the trueborn son of Rhaegar and Lyanna and rightful heir to the Throne, I would contend that it is in truth Jon's right (in the eyes of the so called reader) to award Winterfell to himself. So once again Stannis falls short.
  12. Stannis' offer to Jon

    Developments in the North.
  13. Stannis' offer to Jon

    There is no law in Westeros. There is no legal right. Stannis has this supposed legal right to give Casterly Rock to whoever he wants, too. Let's see how far this legal right gets him.
  14. Stannis' offer to Jon

    Watch and learn, my young friend. Watch and learn.
  15. Stannis' offer to Jon

    Winterfell is the 8000 year old seat of the oldest Ruling House in Westeros. The Kings in the North for 7700 years. Stannis is from an upjumped nothing House that did't even exist 300 years ago. Winterfell is not Stannis's to give to Jon. It is for Jon to claim in his own right, and for him to tell Stannis to get the hell back to the South rather than making claims on territories he has no right to.