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  1. I read most of the Louis L'amour novels when I was a teenager 30 years ago. I don't know how my late-40's brain would like them now, but I enjoyed them at the time.
  2. This is probably right. My theory on the book character is that he's basically there as sort of a world building set piece so that at the end, in the epilogue or whatever, there will be some mention of him as being legitimized and given Storm's End, which will make sense for readers because we'll remember him from his journey with Arya.
  3. Tormund has to survive because of T + B.
  4. Something I'm keeping in mind is Ned's talk with Arya back in AGOT about the pack staying together.
  5. Okay, so one possibility is that LF is already dead and Arya has his face. It's also possible that LF is still alive and playing the game. If so, it could be that the invite to King's Landing was planted by Arya to get Brienne out of Winterfell because she figured out that LF was going to have her killed (and probably Pod too). If this is the case, Brienne could very well be hanging out in Winter Town somewhere, laying low.
  6. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think we saw Arya and Littlefinger in the same scene this week did we?
  7. Yeah, this shit pisses me off, and the thing is, there was a way around it. Bran probably knew what was going to happen before it happened, since we know he seems to exist in different times. Bran could have invaded Dany's dreams, given her visions and premonitions so that she knew she needed to get up to the wall and save the day. Or, she could have conveniently seen a vision in the flames. Whatever. Something, anything, other than the magic raven that flies at the speed of an F-18 to Dragonstone.
  8. Ha Ha. Yep, you're right about that. I like your ideas around Dany's character arc. It makes a lot more sense than what they actually did. I wonder a bit about the influence shows like this have on other writers and directors. A lot of those people are fans just like us, and I'm sure some of them are looking at the finished product and kind of rolling their eyes. On the other hand, those people are also a lot more familiar with how terrifically difficult it must be to put together a show like this.
  9. I don't know if it's been mentioned already, but I definitely wouldn't have given Jorah greyscale since that plotline went absolutely nowhere. I think what happened there was a change in direction between seasons. Initially, they were going to give him the Jon Connington plotline (whatever that turns out to be) but then changed their minds, and so he was miraculously cured.
  10. Maybe this is a dumb question. I don't know. But I wonder if we'll ever get an epic fantasy series like this again, at least in my lifetime? I'm in my mid-40's, so there's some time. Here's what I think, in a generic sense, would more or less qualify: 1) Epic in scale with solid world building and the sense that there is a big, big world out there with a deep history 2) Strong characters that we can identify with and have empathy for 3) Prose that flows and isn't distracting (for an example of terrible prose, try Ken Liu's The Grace of Kings) 4) Low magic 5) Politics and intrigue included, dynastic rivalries and conflict - that sort of thing 6) It should be about people, not elves, dwarves, hobbits, orcs, faeries, sprites, etc. It seems to me, if I were an up and coming author interested in writing fantasy literature, I would be looking at ASOIAF as a model. But I don't know if that's really the case. In some ways, I think GRRM is very unique in this genre because he's so heavily influenced by real history and historical fiction. Also, low magic seems to be a tough one for a lot of these authors.
  11. Maybe to go after Cersei. The prophecy says the valonqar will choke her to death, and "valonqar" is understood to be "little brother', but there are various theories that it could refer to a little sister instead because of confusion over gendered pronouns in High Valyrian. More immediately, she could use LF's face to try and figure out what the other Northern Lords are thinking and if any of them are conspiring against Jon. Of course, she could just go ask Dr. Branhattan, but that would probably be too easy.
  12. I think Arya's gonna get him and steal his face. We may not even know about it until after it happens when there's a reveal of some sort - Littlefinger going around, doing his thing, and then all of a sudden he reaches up, pulls off his face and it's Arya.
  13. I don't know that GRRM is especially interested in the actual logistics of moving an army from one place to another. Granted, he doesn't completely ignore that stuff the way the show does, but he doesn't go into any level of detail in the books.
  14. Right of conquest isn't a rule or any kind of law. It just means you won. Legitimacy is a broader question of how you are perceived after you win. This is where Robert's Targ ancestry comes into play. Jon Arryn would have likely made the best King, but he knew that Robert had the best chance of being perceived as a legitimate ruler and uniting the realm, and so he took the throne and married Cersei, which aligned the Lannisters with the winning faction in the rebellion. The English Kings struggled with the issue of legitimacy as well. Henry IV was the first Lancastrian King, by right of conquest, more or less. But, he was also a descendant of Edward III, which made his claim more palatable. But, even though there were several generations of Lancastrian Kings after him, which were perceived as legitimate, the York claim eventually surfaced based on the idea that the York line should have precedence. But, even there, the Yorkist Kings had to fight a war to press that claim. So when they won, the legitimacy of Edward IV was based on conquest but also on a birthright claim. When Henry Tudor defeated Richard III at Bosworth, he claimed the throne more or less by right of conquest, but he also pledged to his followers that he would marry Elizabeth of York, Edward IV's daughter. That marriage was key to the legitimacy of the Tudor Kings and Queens. It's a bit of a tangled mess, honestly.
  15. You must be trolling. Post count of 8.