Fire Eater

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  1. GRRM's Subverted Fairy Tales

    I have considered Tyrion given he is an actual dwarf who helps Sansa out in one incident. I saw their analyses regarding Sandor and Sansa. I was going for the subverting of the trope. I think Sandor and Sansa's story will end similar to Disney's Beauty and the Beast only if the Beast didn't have a magical healing transformation scene. Update: Princess in the Tower v.3: Val Val is called the "wildling princess," and is kept in a tower as a prisoner being guarded by a giant. However, the knight who wishes for her hand, Ser Patrek of King's Mountain, comes to her in her tower to steal her away is killed by the creature guarding it rather than him slaying the guardian, and Wun Wun was acting in self-defense to Ser Patrek's unprovoked assault. A Knight's Quest: Quentyn Quentyn goes on a quest to win the hand of a beautiful princess and bring her back to his kingdom. The tale usually has the knight going on several adventures while in Quentyn's case, the whole thing is a disaster from start to finish. He loses several friends to a pirate attack when sailing to Essos. He joins a sellsword company to get to her, and witnesses horrors at Astapor. When the knight reaches the maiden, she is usually taken by him. When Quentyn finally reaches Dany, not only does she not find him attractive, but she refuses his offer and marries someone else. Some versions have a knight performing a task to win the hand of his lady. Quentyn'ss story ends with him dying horribly after a foolhardy attempt to mount a dragon to win Dany. Geek Turned Superhero/Underdog: Varamyr This is a tale that stretches from Theseus all the way to Spider-man and Captain America. It follows a small, weak boy who acquires a superpower that gives him strength. The underdog uses his powers to fight monsters and in the case of Spider-man and Captain America, uses them to protect people and fight evil. Varamyr was a small, weak man who when he first realized his powers used them to kill his brother, later his mentor Haggon, who practically raised him, and abduct women to rape. Varamyr didn't use his abilities for the greater good, but used them to terrorize others and satisfy his own selfish desires.
  2. GRRM's Subverted Fairy Tales

    I think fAegon is definitely fake, and I am focusing on what is current in the series, not speculation. Aegon is a subversion of the hidden king trope. To tell you the truth, I missed the angle of the Queen being told she would be outdone by one younger and more beautiful, which is the cause of conflict. Yeah, the way Cat treats Jon makes for a good reference for how bastards would be treated by their fathers' wives. To the wives they are living reminders of their husbands' infidelity, and can be seen as competition for their own children. We see bastard sons in Westeros raised similarly to trueborn children in that they are trained at arms and raised to knighthood. So, I would imagine bastard daughters to be given treatment similar to their trueborn half-sisters in that they would be taught in arts typical for highborn women like sewing, music, etc, and their fathers would be expected to arrange matches for them. Falia's case would possibly unusual in that regard in that she is raised to be a servant with no highborn instruction and her father likely not making any matches for her. Lady Hewett's daughters would likely take their cue from their mother, and emulate her treatment of Falia.
  3. GRRM's Subverted Fairy Tales

    That is hinted at in the ToJ scene where Dawn's description matches that of Excalibur wielded by a man of the same name. The Pendragon sigil was a red dragon like the Targaryen's. Arthur's mother died from the complications of his birth, and grows up ignorant of his royal heritage until his late teens being raised as the bastard son of his foster father. And in another version the step mother is forced to dance in red hot iron shoes. Either way, the stepmother and her daughters get their comeuppance.
  4. GRRM's Subverted Fairy Tales

    GRRM as many know has a habit of subverting tropes. This thread looks at all the tales he is subverting in the series: The Imprisoned Maiden in a Tower- Lyanna In a number of stories their are heroes out to rescue a maiden who is kidnapped and kept prisoner, usually in a tower, by some tyrant or villain, and it is usually guarded by beasts or evil guardsmen. In Lyanna's case, the maiden was kept in the tower for her own safety from Aerys, and she chose to go with Rhaegar out of her own free will. The tower is also guarded the Whent, Hightower and Dayne of the KG who were honorable men only trying to do their duty and protect their king. Other variant: Father Imprisons Princess in the Tower- Arianne In many stories from Rapunzel all the way to Perseus's mother, a girl is kept in a tower by her parent, usually her father, to be kept away from suitors. Arianne's father, Doran, tried to keep her away from suitors and he locked her in a tower. We later learn that he kept her from suitors because he betrothed her to Viserys in secret, and he had a justifiable reason for locking her in a tower as she had committed treason. Snow White and the Seven Dwarves- Sansa Snow White follows a princess who runs from an evil queen mother figure and finds shelter with the eponymous dwarves after a huntsman refused to kill her and she is kissed awake by a prince after eating a poisoned apple. Sansa's name means "apple" which plays a key role in Snow White's story, and some have argued symbolizes the character's budding sexuality. Sansa hides a from an evil queen, Cersei, who served as a kind of mother figure by sheltering with a man of small stature, Littlefinger. Of course, she proves to be no safer with Littlefinger than with Joffrey with his sexual advances. Instead of a prince who lives happily ever after with her, he abuses her and the "unkiss" mentioned is for Sandor in place of the huntsman. Little Red Riding Hood-Arya Beauty and the Beast- Brienne and Jaime Beauty and the Beast follows a beautiful young woman who falls for a physically ugly beast and helps him turn into a handsome man. In this case with Brienne and Jaime, it is reversed. Brienne's sobriquet is "the Beauty," but it is a mocking name. While Brienne is physically ugly, she is beautiful on the inside while Jaime is physically beautiful but ugly on the inside. Jaime is a beast not by appearance, but by personality. His time together with her helped to transform him into a better person. Cinderella- Falia Flowers Cinderella is about a beautiful young woman is made a servant by her father's wife and her daughters, but manages to fall for someone of royalty who rescues her from that life. Falia is Lord Hewett's bastard daughter that is made a servant by his wife and daughters. Given from what we have seen of how bastards are treated in Westeros, i would call her case unusual. She catches the eye of King Euron who promises to make her his mistress, and she has the Lady Hewett and her daughters strip naked while serving the Ironborn. Robin Hood and his Merry Men- The Kingswood Brotherhood The story of Robin Hood follows a dispossessed nobleman who is also a skilled archer who shelters in Sherwood Forest with his band of Merry Men. He has a ban of bandits who take from the rich and give to the poor. They are pursued by the corrupt Sheriff of Nottingham and Sir Guy of Gisbourne, who was hired to kill Robin Hood and was killed himself in their fight. The Kingswood Brotherhood shelters in the kingswood (well, duh!), and they steal from people such as Princess Elia Martell, with the forest folk of the wood looking to them for protection of their rights. They are led by the dispossessed nobleman, Simon Toyne. In place of pure Maid Marion, there is Wenda the White Fawn who branded highborn captives on their buttocks. There is Big Belly Ben in place of Little John and Fletcher Dick as Robin Hood the skilled archer. In place of the skilled swordsman of the band, Will Scarlet, we have the Smiling Knight whom Jaime described as "a madman, all cruelty and chivalry jumbled up together." The men who pursue them in place of the hired killer, Guy of Gisbourne, are the Barristan the Bold, the man who slays Toyne, and in place of the Sheriff of Nottingham, Arthur Dayne, who won over the forest folk by taking their grievances to the king and expanding their rights and privileges. Both of whom are honorable men of moral character as opposed to the people in the Kingswood Brotherhood which was made up of bandits, murderers and kidnappers.
  5. Varys Did Not Intend for Tyrion to Kill Tywin

    Regarding the trust issue, Tyrion could likely respond with something he once told Aegon: trust no one. I think he would give that same advice to Dany. Besides, if he helps to clean up Meereen by the time she arrives, she'll see his value. As Jon said, you don't need to trust someone to use them.
  6. how does jon claim the IT?

    As to the first part, he ultimately decided to stay. His reasons for leaving were understandable, and he was a 15 year-old teenager. He didn't commit treason regarding "Arya." If he ignored the letter then the Boltons would eventually come to CB and threaten everyone there. He couldn't hand over Theon and "Arya" given he didn't have them so he couldn't meet the Boltons demands even if he wanted to. He was very low on options. He didn't get involved in fighting the Boltons until then. I think the challenge would be posed to Jon that to prove he was he says he is, he has to mount a dragon. Dany would pose that chalklenge thinking he will fail and get himself killed. King Arthur had to prove he was king with a sword, and one version has him being given it by the lady of the lake. I think this case would be a subversion of the lady of the lake giving Arthur what he needed to prove he was the rightful king. Of course, I think it will ultimately be a Great Council that names him king as you suggest. He often has responsibility thrust on him.
  7. Myrcella the black Dragon's Queen?

    I think the text points more strongly towards Arianne. Myrcella is believed to be the Kingslayer's bastard through his sister at worst, and the daughter of the man who killed Aegon's "father" at best. Connington wouln't want Aegon to marry her and Aegon likely wouldn't.
  8. How common was Valyrian Steel prior to the Doom?

    Valyrian steel was always expensive, so only wealthy houses could afford them. GRRM said it was always costly, and it would have been too expensive to equip the entire Valyrian army with it.
  9. Moments of Foreshadowing v.11

    Jon is Rhaegar's son, and after fighting against Dany in the second Dance, he would be their one chance to return home for a permanent stay. Nor do I think Connington would abandon Rhaegar's last remaining son. And thank you, likewise. He returned to Hoster Tully's chair, pulled over the map of the Trident, and flattened it beneath his golden hand. Where would I go, if I were the Blackfish? "Lord Commander?" A guardsman stood in the open door. "Lady Westerling and her daughter are without, as you commanded." I think that may be a hint that the Blackfish will attack the convoy transporting the Westerlings and Edmure.
  10. Moments of Foreshadowing v.11

    "Whilst we await Lord Walder's death, there is another matter," said Aurane Waters. "The Golden Company has broken its contract with Myr. Around the docks I've heard men say that Lord Stannis has hired them and is bringing them across the sea." "What would he pay them with?" asked Merryweather. "Snow? They are called the Golden Company. How much gold does Stannis have?" Could this hint that the GC will eventually back Jon when R+L=J is revealed? They get a Targaryen king who is also a black dragon due to being in the NW.
  11. Spelling something out explicitly in the text before the prophesied event occurs is a red herring in ASOIAF. In TMK, Daemon II believed his prophecy meant an actual dragon hatching before the event occurred only for it to refer to Egg. Jojen gave a prophecy of Ramsay killing Bran and Rickon and skinning their bodies only for it to be the millers' sons. Those hints are subtle given it isn't outright spelled out. It usually takes some rereading to find those hints for Jon. Prophecies aren't made cleat until the events they refer to occur. There's no rule that says there can't be two red herrings. I don't think Stannis was that much believable in the first place, but that's just my opinion. People are explicitly calling Dany AA: Aemon and the High Priest of the Red Faith, Benerro. That is without saying that making it Dany violates GRRM's own words regarding prophecy:
  12. If Jon becomes King , who will be his Queen ?

    Why would he need Bran when he could skinchange the dragon himself? He could gain a newfound appreciation for skinchanging after the Ides of Marsh given it helped to save his life. Borroq likely is mentioned for a reason. He has was around when Varamyr was a kid, and is likely the oldest and most experienced skinchanger after BR. He could serve as a mentor to Jon for skinchanging. With Jon comparing himself to Valyrian steel add to that Donal Noye's quote regarding the Baratheon brothers: "Robert was the true steel. Stannis is pure iron, black and hard and strong, yes, but brittle, the way iron gets. He'll break before he bends. And Renly, that one, he's copper, bright and shiny, pretty to look at but not worth all that much at the end of the day." With the comparisons of men to metals, Robert who was the only one to sit the IT was compared to steel. So, in that quote Jon comparing himself to Valyrian steel, it is not just being hinted at being Valyrian in heritage, but being made of the stuff of kings. With Valyrian steel being the best quality metal, it could be saying Jon has the potential to be the best kind of king.
  13. No, it doesn't make him a red herring because no one is explicitly declaring him as AA. The flaming sword is in a single dream he has, and no one even calls him AA in that dream nor does Jon think if himself as AA. GRRM is very explicit with red herrings like Tyrion being the one who sent the footpad, and the Lannisters being the ones who killed Jon Arryn. No one outright says Jon is AA so he isn't a red herring in the way GRRM uses it.
  14. [TWoW Spoilers] Aeron I (Balticon)

    Euron is officially the worst brother ever: killing three brothers and sexually abusing two. I agree with the theory that the dwarves fighting and making love refer to the claimants for the IT fighting and making alliances such as the case with Arianne and Aegon which does involve actual copulation. The warlock shouting "Pree" pretty much confirms that Pyat Pree's party was the group Euron captured. I also agree with Lord Varys that Euron got the armor from the warlocks as his response to the Reader's inquiries suggests he is full of shit. Poor Falia, her CInderella story apparently doesn't have a happy ending. It just demonstrates that Euron isn't loyal to anyone. As to Ran's assertion about Euron being a dreamer or greenseer, I think the throne of skulls might suggest that given we see plenty of skulls on the walls in the CotF cave, and Melisandre sees skulls about Jon when we know BranRaven is going to help him. The woman with him possibly being the Others' leader brings to mind the Queen of the Norns from MS&T who rules from a mountain in a cold land far North. As for the Shields, he made sure he gave them to rivals and supporters of rivals, so his rivals are weakened if they lose them.
  15. Can Cersei be redeemed?

    Except it didn't start that way as the decision was made under coercion as Cersei wasn't looking for her consent an she clearly wanted to emulate Robert when he assaulted Cersei. As for the fact that she is a former prostitute, that same mode of thinking is why sex workers have trouble pressing charges against people who sexually assaulted them. Except the consent was coerced, which doesn't count as actual consent. Cersei acted when Taena was asleep, and she was trying emulate Robert when he forced himself on her. Sexual assault is a serious subject.