• Content count

  • Joined

  • Last visited

About chrisdaw

Contact Methods

  • MSN

Profile Information

  • Gender Male
  • Location Australia
  1. What is the best POV story arc in any of the novels?

    Jaime's, quite comfortably, but you need his last two chapters for the pay offs.
  2. Jojen Paste

    The discussion on Jojen paste should be won and done, it's heavily foreshadowed and thematically fitting. The discussion should move on. The first question I suppose should be is if it's just his blood taken without having taken his life. I doubt this on the basis that it doesn't fit thematically, this is all about sacrifice, and there's no sacrifice where there's no permanent harm done, the theme would not be realised. Further questions would be, though I suppose not particularly important but interesting to me none the less is if it is just his blood? The paste as it is described sounds like brain or eyes, the eyes would make symbolic sense given that Jojen has Greensight. And then there is the question of if it matters, for the purpose of the sacrifice, if Jojen has Greensight? Does that make the ritual sacrifice and cannibalism more powerful? Is it required that the sacrifice victim have Greensight for it to be at all useful? If not that may raise interesting questions as to the use of the other two guests in the cave, and so I shall thoerise. It seems to me the cave is set up far too conveniently, the ingredients are there for a boil over. You have the COTF talking of the end of days and Bloodraven living beyond his natural lifespan to save the world. On a character level, to take a black and white look at the situation, you have Bran and Bloodraven as polar opposites. Bloodraven is the most ruthless character to have been somewhat developed in the whole of the series. The man gives no fucks as to the amount of blood he must spill to achieve his goal, cold, calm and calculated. Previously he was acting just to keep the realm at peace, to keep his House on the throne and win out over his bitter brother. This time, he's tasked himself with preventing the ice zombie apocalypse, there's no lengths he will not go to. On the other side, we have a young boy who easily gets emotional and attached, he is prone to acting on emotion. He is also perhaps the most benevolent character in the series. The idea of sacrifice for the greater good in the long term is going to run counter to every natural feeling he has. Now GRRM has thrown these two together in the cave, where BR and the COTF believe they can work in secret behind Bran's back while they teach him and he grows in not just power but also understanding. They don't have much time before the invasion comes to Westeros, but with what little time they have to work with they can try and teach Bran the nature of the power that is going to be required to save the realm and the necessity of sacrifice. Only there's a budding spanner in the works for their secrecy, Bran need only open one wrong door in Hodor's body for the premature truth to come tumbling out. I think there's only 3 ways Bran's arc can go. He rejects the way of sacrifice and forges his own path to saving the realm. If this is the case, I think the cave is going to get very messy. He rejects the way of sacrifice but ends up succumbing to it when he believes it is the only way to save the realm. Cave would still get messy here. He runs all the way with BR's way of sacrifice, the story is in his internal struggle to come to grips with the horrible things he must do or allow so that the realm may be saved. Based on the potential for the dramatic I think the last is the least likely. There is a harrowing scene on the offering here, and a few hints GRRM has it in mind. When I first found this I applied it to Jojen and was done. The beast who carried them so far was symbolic of Jojen having lead their adventure by way of his dreams. However, it really works better when applied to Hodor, the brave (the only time a man be brave is when he is afraid, and Hodor is afraid often in their journey but comes through for them) strong but mentally challenged man who literally carried Bran on his back so far. According to the Woods Witch the saddest sound at the Red Wedding were Jinglebell's bells, that is the sound of Aegon Frey being murdered by Catelyn. Now normally this wouldn't be such a sad thing, not by Westeros standards anyway, Aegon is a Frey and as such enemy to all things honourable and good, and his murder occurs at the height of the Frey's greatest villainy. The reason it is sad, atleast according to the Woods Witch, is undoubtedly because Jinglebell is mentally handicapped. He is a helpless, confused and oblivious spectator. Granted Jinglebell being a simpleton serves a purpose in demonstrating Catelyn's descent, but I think it's undoubted that GRRM has here used a mentally handicapped man child as a victim to ratchet up the emotional impact of the scene. Perhaps not for the last time. The Varamyr POV ADWD prologue gives an insight into Skinchanging, custom, nature and possibilities. Skewing off from him recounting how Mel burned his Skinchanged self in mid-flight is the recollection of Varamy's first death in another skin. It is stressed as a traumatic, harrowing event, and I believe it would be such a scene for the reader too had we much investment in Varamyr. As it stands, if the series were to end now, the scene is rather superfluous. It's groundwork, we have several Skinchanging heroes at play with which the reader is invested, Bran being the most emotional brittle of them. I have no doubt one of them is going to experience what Varamyr did, probably more than one, maybe all. But Bran is the most harrowing option, and an option that could be made more dramatic with a less animalistic death. And so I don't think Jojen is really the main dish here, he's merely the appetiser leading to the climax of this whole ordeal. How the scene would go I'm not sure, but in throwing out possibilities I harken back to the three ways I see Bran's arc could go. Might Bran come to accept the necessity of sacrifice, and skinchange Hodor to willingly sacrifice him? Could he be in his mind's eye but confused, not understanding the situation until the dagger is drawn across his throat? Or perhaps he realises in time and the sacrifices become many, older and smaller instead of one young large one. Something else to consider, with what tidbits we've been given I think it's more likely than not by now that sacrifice for the realm runs in Hodor's blood. Note that I could consider Meera in place or addition to Hodor, but I think even Jojen would have attempted to fight fate had he thought that was a possibility.
  3. I don't know because GRRM hasn't told us, because where they are now because is not important. What's important is that when the Others come and the realm get their shit together there about 200 warriors defending the realm with VS. That's why GRRM would have thrown that number out there.
  4. Why did Jon Connington take Griffin's Roost?

    I suggest you're overthinking it, the main importance of JC taking GR is to provide GRRM a smooth method of transitioning JC's internal thoughts towards the history he needed to tell the reader. The location of GR within striking distance from the GC's landing, that Rhaegar visited the place and that JC decides to take it are convenient arrangements to naturally spur on the internal thoughts that define and expand on JC's motivations and various little important tidbits of history.
  5. LF is motivated by greed and ego, he has a chip on his shoulder against the whole world for having lost Catelyn as a youth. Westeros values birth and brawn, he is going to prove to them that they're wrong to do so, that his qualities are superior.   Varys wants what he believes is overall best for the realm, and he's not afraid to get his hands dirty to achieve it. Specifically he believes that a King with what he believes are the characteristics of Aegon ruling a united realm is the best Westeros can achieve. Current day Varys was created when Robert turned a blind eye to Tywin murdering the children, it was then he went from loyal servant to active player, as it became clear to him that him doing what he was supposed to do, being the loyal servant, didn't work out for the realm, it actually worsened the realm, so he has ditched that approach and gone all in.
  6. Why Dany's dragons were not stolen in the East was well explained in the detail of how the balance of power is retained and cultural norms.
  7. Will we get an unJon POV?

    His arc is about weighing the guilt between accepting the KITN and King titles against the necessity that he does to save the realm. And then dealing with the guilt having accepted what he must do. It's very internal and it's very human, I don't see how it can be done with him becoming too far removed from human or from outside POVs. It doesn't necessarily mean we'll get a Jon or UnJon POV in Winds though, he could be benched for a while.
  8. Who Actually Sits on the Throne, Jon or Dany?

    Tommen -> Aegon -> Dany -> Tyrion and Jon may or may not sit the throne after Tyrion as it will not be the throne Jon wants but a realm wide alliance against the Others and he may not need to take the throne to achieve that. Regardless of if he does or doesn't he will have his hour of the wolf moment in KL.
  9. (Spoilers) Gregor Clegane

    Qyburn is a lapdog acting for Cersei. They in this picture is simply Cersei and Gregor is completely in tune with Cersei's way of doing things. Besides, his new existence appears to be one of complete obedience thus removing the possible problem of his violent nature and there's the thin veil of identity to somewhat minimise exposure, not that Cersei is likely to care much about either of those things. Kevan is clearly apprehensive about him, but he needs the trial won, which Gregor will without doubt.
  10. Where will be the battle of dawn fought?

    Premise is wrong, everyone will care and ally because Jon will make them care when he consolidates and marches all the forces now in the North (and the rest that will come) south on the IT. That's his arc, to save the realm he must do what gives him the greatest guilt, embrace legitimacy, so that he may lead. Cregane Stark and his hour of the wolf, the first young wolf and Daeron the young dragon are the roadmap for Jon going South, his 'friendship' conversation with Tyrion and the multiple pacts (Ice and Fire) the foreshadowing for the alliance.
  11. Will Varys kill Marge?

    He only needs a guilty verdict, or for things to look like they're headed that way. That forces the Tyrells into the city, after that she could be of use as a bargaining chip to sell back to Willas for his support of Aegon. Varys needs Mace to die, Mace dies and all Tyrell royal ambition dies, and the Tyrell priorities simply become getting Marge back safe and defending from the IB, and Aegon may be able to do both.
  12. The Eyrie is the Castle 'Made of Snow'

    Yes it absolutely is, and they will be back up the Eyrie before Sansa is done with the Vale.
  13. Why I believe that Dany will lose Westeros.

    Yeah she'll lose it, Rhaenyra style, but first she'll win it and destroy Aegon in the process, which means there will be a vacuum in her wake, so the real interesting question is who next? The answer is Tyrion + Sansa, but it seems no-one is capable of seeing that yet.
  14. I think Jon vs Dany is the real dance of dragons

    Nah, Dany Vs Aegon with Tyrion on the side. Then will come Jon + Dany vs Tyrion, but that won't be a dance but a war to force a Westeros wide alliance to fight the War for the Dawn.