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  1. What do you mean "what does Ned cheating have to do with this"? Catelyn can't stand Jon because he's the symbol of the fact that Ned slept with another woman after they got married. "A Game of Thrones", Catelyn II: "Many men fathered bastards. Catelyn had grown up with that knowledge. It came as no surprise to her, in the first year of her marriage, to learn that Ned had fathered a child on some girl chance met on campaign. He had a man’s needs, after all, and they had spent that year apart, Ned off at war in the south while she remained safe in her father’s castle at Riverrun." Catelyn thinks Ned married her, got her pregnant, went off to war and fathered Jon with some woman so in her eyes the bastard must be younger than Robb. Which doesn't make it true, obviously, but it means that even if Jon was in fact the oldest of the two it must have been by a close margin in order for Ned to be able to pass him as younger instead.
  2. Well, she knows (or thinks she knows) that he was born after Robb, otherwise Ned wouldn't have cheated on her. So baby Jon couldn't look noticeably older than his (supposed?) brother.
  3. Yeah, I know but that's her version and she could easily be twisting the tale, the guy isn't around to contradict her after all. She has reasons for lying, the maester writing AWOIAF doesn't and prince Daeron was homosexual; we also have Barristan recalling that all of Egg's sons broke their bethrotals, if I'm not mistaken, so I think it's likely that it was him who refused to marry her, not the other way around.
  4. Wasn't Egg's son who didn't want to marry her because he preferred men?
  5. Assuming R+L=J? No, he didn't, the Targaryens weren't the ruling dynasty anymore. Anyway Ned sure as hell didn't hide his nephew for personal gain, which was kinda my point: on the contrary he did the best thing he could to protect him, even at a cost to himself. And by the way, trying to put Jon on the throne would have been idiotic at that point.
  6. Robert never said he didn't send assassins except for that time he did (A Game of Thrones, Eddard II): "I should have had them both killed years ago, when it was easy to get at them, but Jon was as bad as you. More fool I, I listened to him." Renly confirms (A Game of Thrones, Eddard VII): "The matter seems simple enough to me. We ought to have had Viserys and his sister killed years ago, but His Grace my brother made the mistake of listening to Jon Arryn." So no assassins were ever sent after the two Targaryen, before Daenerys became a real threat. That aside, if killing children is a sign of madness, well then... Tywin is mad. Jaime and Theon too. Olenna Tyrell? A lunatic. Bronn says he would kill a child if the pay is good enough, is he crazy too? A lot of Varys' little birds die when their tongues are cut, I guess the eunuch is mad as well. The goldcloaks sent after Robert's bastards all belong in an asylum. And so on.
  7. Robert ordered Daenerys killed after she married Kahl Drogo, which made her a real threat, and everyone on the small council except for Ned agreed with the decision; I don't think they were all mad. That was the first time he sent assassins after the Targaryens so no, he didn't try to murder children (he did however refuse to punish actual child murderers like the Mountain, Lorch and their master, but that's another matter).
  8. Nowhere. But he would have been if Jon was Brandon's legitimate son, which is what I was referring to.
  9. Yeah, that too. I agree with the post above this: Jon being a bastard wasn't why Ned didn't want to bring him to King's Landing, that's just an excuse and quite the lame one at that. We even see a bastard sitting in the Small Council...
  10. I'm not sure what's more unbelievable, Ned being a bigamist or Ned usurping his nephew.
  11. There's nothing hypocrytical about that: Jaime is perceived as having acted on his father's orders, or at least on his behalf, that's why he's judged. After all, up until Tywin's men were sacking the city Jaime remained as faithful a Kingsguard as any, didn't he?
  12. Again, how would the king give the order since the only other person there was Jaime? And he knew his father was taking the city and his men would be there soon. I mean, they were right outside the door. It's not like he thought he was facing a days long siege. Also, he hunted down the other pyromancers during the following days, without telling anyone about the wildfire so he wasn't afraid they would act on their own. Like with Aerys, he killed them because he wanted to (I think they deserved it, for what it's worth).
  13. Hours? A minute at most: Tywin's bannermen entered the throne room immediately after Jaime had killed Aerys. I agree that him sitting on the throne considerably worsened his image but I think he would still be called that. Unless he told the truth, probably, but he was too proud for that.
  14. How? There was no one else in the throne room. The wildfire plan had already been stopped by Rossart's death, there was no need to kill Aerys too at that point: Jaime did it because he wanted to, which is perfectly understandable but doesn't make it some kind of heroic gesture. It had been Jaime's approach too until the very end, when Aerys ordered him to kill Tywin.
  15. Rhaenys Targaryen, "the queen who never was", had the typical valyrian features even though her mother was a Baratheon.