Black Crow

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  1. Heresy 190

    As to the white walkers, I still hold that Old Nan's description of the Others being cold dead things hating all life is a confusion of white walkers and of wights. GRRM has flatly stated that the former are not dead; the latter on the other hand are dead and I suggest that they do hate the living precisely because they themselves are dead. The walkers were compared by GRRM in that same email to the Sidhe made of ice, and whilst that was a physical descriptor addressed to an artist, that artist needed to capture their character and we do indeed see them paralleling the Sidhe in their Wild Hunt form: which is important because while the two are often confused the Wild Hunt were not themselves Faerie born and bred, but men; changelings and above all the damned.
  2. Heresy 190

    A monster bursting into flames is much more in the nature of a dragon, especially when the written legend comes from out east exactly at the time when the Targaryens and their dragons were destroying the old Ghiscari empire.
  3. Heresy Project X+Y=J: Wrap up thread

    The two are not incompatible; quite the reverse; it started off with an invitation to surrender andended in a fight to the dead. I'm open to options, but the point is that in both cases its a pre-arranged meeting, not the defence of the Alamo
  4. Heresy Project X+Y=J: Wrap up thread

    To negotiate their surrender which is what he tries to do.
  5. Heresy 190

    If they are no longer true to the three-fingered tree-huggers I'd be very surprised to find them under anybody's control, let alone Euron.
  6. Heresy Project X+Y=J: Wrap up thread

    Consider. The King's Guard are not merely bodyguards, but the King's agents; which is why three of them ended up commanding troops at the Trident rather than ranging themselves around the throne. The king is dead, long live the king and in this case Aerys named Viserys his heir and Prince Doran has raised a Dornish army in the name of King Viserys. Where therefore should the King's Guard go? Should they stand around Dragonstone looking decorative of should they join the King's army in Dorne? Is Lord Eddard's primary task in riding into Dorne with just six companions to seek his long lost sister, or is it to seek the surrender of the last King's Guards and perhaps thereby ward off the Dornish threat? Was the rencounter at the tower all about Lyanna, or did Ser Arthur Dayne tell of her whereabouts while he lay a-dying?
  7. Heresy Project X+Y=J: Wrap up thread

    On the contrary, if it is to be a credible threat that's exactly where it should be kept and only withdrawn when suitable guarantees are obtained to render the threat unnecessary.
  8. Heresy Project X+Y=J: Wrap up thread

    Clearly not, but the fact that it was easier to pull down the tower [on top of them?] rather than simply gather stones from the rocky hillsides doesn't argue for it being habitable.
  9. Heresy Project X+Y=J: Wrap up thread

    That comes over very clearly in that celebrated conversation: "When King's Landing fell, Ser Jaime slew your king with a golden sword, and I wondered where you were." "Far away," Ser Gerold said, "or Aerys would yet sit on the Iron Throne, and our false brother would burn in seven hells." Those aren't the words of someone who has decided to give his loyalty to Rhaegar instead of Aerys.
  10. Heresy Project X+Y=J: Wrap up thread

    I don't know if consent is necessarily implied here, but I do think that its significant that the encounter took place in the principal pass leading into Dorne, rather than in some out of the way place.
  11. Heresy 190

    Broadly I'd agree. According to the World Book they sacrificed thousands of their own in order to bring down the Hammer of the Waters - and that sacrifice is all the greater due to their low birth rate. I'd be more inclined to see it as their being crippled by that effort and finding it unavailing turning instead to creating their winter soldiers. Where I think the twist comes in is that the white walkers were abandoned by the Children once the Pact was agreed and that's why they have turned against their creators.
  12. Heresy Project X+Y=J: Wrap up thread

    Stones were hardly in short supply there, so pulling the tower down to obtain them suggests it was quick and easy, which in turn suggests that it was in tumbledown condition in the first place - otherwise why expend the effort.
  13. Heresy Project X+Y=J: Wrap up thread

    I certainly think that the first is worthy of thought. The tower itself presents real problems. Being a Scot currently living in Northumberland I am surrounded by towers great and small. Demolishing them is not easy and I don't care how many horses you might have to help or how many fires you light inside it. GRRM writes that they did it and used the stones as cairns for the dead, so who are we to doubt him, but it does very strongly suggest that the old watchtower was already a ruin and a landmark for a meeting rather than a dwelling place. As to Ned's feelings for Jon, I'm reluctant to read too much into them, while your point is taken there is a mystery to be preserved.
  14. Heresy Project X+Y=J: Wrap up thread

    I'm inclined to agree and that the stipulation or whatever it is shouldn't necessarily be so narrowly defined. It appears to be akin to the Musgrave Ritual. Its passed down from father to son for so long that no-one now remembers what it really means of why. On one level, clearly the current generations of Starks believe someone needs to be in residence. As you say Benjen was left in charge of the keys when Lord Eddard went off to the rebellion, then Robb Stark, when Eddard went to King's landing. He in turn left Bran to serve as Stark in Winterfell when he went south to avenge Ned and win himself a kingdom. By that measure its only when Bran was captured by Theon and then fled north that there was no longer a Stark Lord in or of Winterfell. GRRM likes to tell us of his fondness for layered meanings, so if it goes beyond this, why must there always be a Stark in Winterfell?
  15. Heresy 190

    And don't forget the pilgrims...