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  1. Add to which, there's a suspicion that Azor Ahai isn't a one and only individual whom the stars blazed for at his birth, however obscure, but instead of simply knocking around disregarded by all and sundry until hiscovered, he, like his sword, requires to be made, just like the Manx cat I keep mentioning. In Stannis, Mel finds someone with a single-minded [but frustrated] sense of his own destiny. He can be reborn as Azor Ahai and therefore she enacts the ritual to make him amidst the stone dragons of the smoking island in the salt sea [as GRRM helpfully refers to it twice in the space of two pages
  2. Good to hear from you - stick around
  3. Just to expand on that Deceivers post. While death aint what it used to be in these here parts, talking to the dead is waking great uncle Albert and asking him where he buried the money, those Danaerys the Dragonlord encountered were undead and active players.
  4. Ice preserves - Fire consumes. The weirwood provides solid images while the flames do indeep flicker
  5. Mel is that most dangerous of believers who wants something to be true and is prepared to create a Manx cat to make it so.
  6. Agree with all of the above - especially as we're also treated to the soliloquy about her "magic" powders running short. In fact her problem is that she can't talk to dead kings and unborn children. That's not to say that she can't see them, she does have some powers, but seeing and figuring out what's going on and predicting what's going to happen next are very different.
  7. Not in the text, and indeed GRRM's dismissal of his importance seems to go way beyond disassociating him from the demon king portrayed by the mummers
  8. Ah, but that depends on whether the crows are just messengers - or players
  9. Not to mention the words of one Aemon Targaryen: "You are a son of Winterfell, a nephew of Benjen Stark. It must be you or no one."
  10. We also have to think about the significance of those wings on the helmet. Do they denote old allegiances or are they trophies?
  11. And where do we get "Jon is more Targaryen than Stark" ?
  12. I don't think that the two interpretations are incompatible. Lyanna was stolen and her child will be returned. The wrinkle I'm suggesting is that roots growing in cracks in walls can split them assunder; or to put it simply Lyanna's son is going to bring the Wall down.
  13. As to the other matters, however I think that they are good points but am inclined to qualify them a little. There's an awful lot of this "reborn"/"come again" business both in the books and in reader speculation. I think that there may be two ways of looking at this; either certain characters are indeed reincarnations of heroes of old in which case there is not only a wheel endlessly turning, but those characters are doomed to re-enact those same mistakes and outcomes - albeit GRRM is tolerably vague as to what those outcomes actually were. Alternatively they are indeed, as GRRM keeps saying, no more than characters out of legend whose very existence is duubtful. But, given the apparent parallels they may be outlining the roles which certain characters are to take on. That may not sound very different from option A, but I'd argue that far from being a matter of semantics it is very different in allowing our characters to excercise free will rather than merely repeat history.
  14. On balance I'm rather of the view that the significance of the blue rose growing out of a crack in the Wall is a pointer to Jon's being Lyanna's son via Bael the Bard and that any other identification is going to be over-analysing things. The only other significance being that the presence of the roots in that crack may signify the breaking of the Wall by that son.