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  1. The sheer numbers of people involved in such a conspiracy would render it impossible. http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a19150/most-conspiracy-theories-are-mathematically-impossible/ And it would be even harder to run such a conspiracy for thousands of years. I think we need to accept that a side affect of incest is poor health, reduced fertility etc. Occam's Razor rather 'elaborate conspiracy of Septon's and Maesters'
  2. Perhaps the Green Grace is being dishonest: since it is the opposite of the Islamic ruling on other people's marriages. Given that Slaver's Bay is the equivalent of the Barbary States of North Africa (Although perhaps I am taking the analogy to far, religiously the Ghiscari seem to be religiously closer to the Carthaginians, however pagans are usually pretty tolerant of their differences... https://islamqa.info/en/169528 Interestingly, since we are discussing Targaeryn incest, this Islamic website has a very interesting discussion of Magian marriages He replied: With regard to these people who had intercourse when they were still disbelievers, if they believed that this intercourse occurred in the context of a marriage contract that they thought was valid, even though it is invalid according to sharee‘ah, the marriage contract is valid and the children belong to that man. For example, when he was still a disbeliever, a man proposed to a woman that he should be her husband and she agreed, and they thought that this was a marriage contract, then the man and woman became Muslim. We say: Your marriage is still valid and there is no need to repeat the marriage contract, and any children that you had are your children, unless the wife is not permissible for the husband in Islam. An example of that is if he was a Magian and married his sister, as the Magians regard it as permissible to marry mahrams (close relatives). If he married his sister when he was a disbeliever, then he became Muslim and she became Muslim, they must be separated because the woman is not permissible for the man. With regard to the group of people you mention we say: If they believe that what they did of having relationships with these women was a marriage, then it is not zina and the children belong to them. But if you believed that it was zina and you attributed these children to yourself when you were still a disbeliever -- i.e., the zaani said: These are my children -- then they are his children, so long as there is no one to dispute with him on this issue. But if they did not attribute these children to themselves, then they are not their children.
  3. Agreed so much with this.
  4. Dorne which has a strong matriarchal influence of the Rhoynar has the least stigma against illegitimacy, perhaps this is rather similar to the lack of stigma against illegitimacy in matrilineal societies such as the Trobridian islands. Beyond the Wall has limited property and inheritance, so there is less stigma against illegitimacy and a strong emphasis on exogamy. Worth noting that illegitimacy stigma varies on Earth-amongst the Yolngu the word for bastard is a hge slur (they pratctice polygyny) but it the stereotype of Native Americans is that they stigmatized illegitimacy less (but I don't know much about them, not being American, I do however know that some were matrilineal, which again brings them closer to the Trobridian islanders). It seems that wildlings do not stigmatise premarital sex at all, but seem to think it is important that a man cares for his children. The North still has a strong influence of First Men culture, but having sufficiently salubrious climate to engage in agriculture, there is property and therefore a need to have property be inherited by ones own children (not from Jon down the road). The remnants of First Men culture, and relatively independent women seems to result in bastards (such as Bael the Bards son with the Stark girl, Torrhen Stark's brother Brandon Snow) achieving prominence. Andal cultures-strong sexual morality, however women have sufficient status in society that they are monogamous, so even if sexual morality is important, it is atleast important for both sexes, even if women are punished more severely for sexual transgression than men- men are still stigmatised for father bastards and the products of such unions are stigmatised. So even though women have a loss of freedom (they don't have it as good as Dornish women or even Northern women) atleast they don't have to watch their husbands' sons with the kitchen girl inherit the property (property that was probably enriched by the wealth that she brought with her dowry) instead their daughters can inherit, and they have a status that say women in polygnous societies do not. The Iron Islands: a rape culture: a man's concubines with his saltwives can inherit, however a Pyke (the product of an affair between a Iron Islander nobleman and an Iron Islander woman) is stigmatized (Cotter Pyke is on the wall). Basically the Iron Islands have the worst kind of polygny (the child of a saltwife inherits before a man's legitimate daughters). Few protections for married women (as there is in a monogamous society atleast) and almost no stigma for men (they are outright encouraged to rape). However there is still some sort of first men influence-which is why Asha is able to be a warrior (like a real life Viking shield maiden). Which brings us to the Dothraki who are even worse: polygnous, rape their slaves and captives, and widows are forbidden to remarry. Not dissimilar to Confucian prohibitions on widow remarriage whilst allowing concubinage. Also from watching Korean serials it seems that the sons of concubines had fewer property rights than legitimate sons, but still had more freedom and independence than yangban daughters. Years ago I read this essay that argued that the Chinese began to heroise women who killed themselves rather than remarry in the Yuan dynasty (aka the Mongol dynasty), however Neo-confucianism began in the Song dynasty, so I am not sure how seriously I take the theory that the Yuan stigmatising of widow remarriage was based on the idea that a woman who remarried was loyal to her first family (which symbolised the song dynasty) and a woman who remained loyal to her husband was like someone loyal to the Yuan dynasty. Not sure if it was this book or this book, or this book, it's not this book since I haven't read it. Mongol women were quite independent (even if adultery was probably severely punished) at least according to Jack Waterford's books on Genghis Khan. Perhaps their nomadic pastoralism is similar enough to hunter gathering that you cannot afford women to be caged in their homes and dressed in clothes that reduce their ability to see/have their feet bound so they cannot walk/neck rings, perhaps this is why Dothraki women aren't cloistered and segregated. My conclusion: matriarchal societies are the best (since both men and women are happy in them, indeed because Trobridian Islander men can't pass on property to their sons, they try and teach them dances and other skills so it presumably makes them better fathers). At least in patriarchal monogamous societies both sexes are held to a certain standard-with a man's bastards unable to inherit property-(albeit women are held to a higher standard) and women still have some status (Medieval Queens, courtly love, a role in public life) Which is better than polygnous societies: women tend to be cloistered, held to ridiculously high standards of sexual morality, whilst men are able to take concubines and multiple wives whose children can encroach on property that the first wife brought into the marriage. Also young men are unable to find mates (since rich old dudes horde all the beautiful girls) and are as a result very miserable (patriarchy hurts men to, as they say), often warlike (as a way of acquiring new women for low status men by rape and slavery) but not always (Confucian societies and Hindu societies when they are not on the defensive*) *Some Hindus, such as the Nayars and Bunts are matrilineal, some practice polyandry-multiple husbands-Hinduism has a broad range. However I am talking about the patriarchal end: Suttee, high female infanticide, and widows being forced into ashrams in Vrindivan,
  5. I came here with such hopes. Oh well have preorded the new new anthology.
  6. I hope the fifth season gets onto the Mexican cartels, since I don't know much about them. I find that historical dramas are a great jumping off point to historical research.
  7. Just finished. I am glad they are doing a third season with the Cali Cartel. I think looking at the big picture is much more interesting.
  8. Well Jon Bernthal is very hot. Which is a bonus. But would seriously prefer if he patrolled something other than Hell's Kitchen.
  9. I seriously hope they haven't depowered Juliet. Kind of resented how Adalind can only be good when she is powerless.
  10. Well I am really looking forward to it. I even watched Man of Steel and Batman Vs Superman because they are in the same continuity.
  11. Don't be silly. Nudity is for the male gaze only. The ugly mess that is death in childbirth should never intersect with that.
  12. true. true. Also the idea that now that Sansa has been raped so she now hates men/is no longer a silly romatic... that is a really strange message for heterosexual men to promote. Just Saying.
  13. It's impossible for Sansa to be a lesbian because she is conventionally attractive. Just as it is impossible for Brienne to be straight because she is plain.
  14. Remember Voltaire's Candide? Which is an attack on Liebniz's "Best of all possible worlds" theory. Perhaps the author's really do believe that the notion that behaving honourably will work in the long term and that dishonourable people are deservedly punished as offensive as Voltaire hated Liebniz's "Best of All possible worlds". Perhaps the author's are saying that wicked people triumph and good people are unreasonably persecuted?? Which is why dishonourable and clever Baelish will be the hero and get rid of the big evil???
  15. Aquarius and Jingbirok: Memoir of the Imjin War.