Alia of the knife

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    "Mother, its Paul, he has taken the Water of Life."

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  1. Soooooo, where are they still getting fresh cigarettes?
  2. "I also hope we get to the part in the story where we get order from chaos. When David Milch made "Deadwood" that was his theme a show about bad people actually creating order because once you are at the top life is easier to go legit and society can be a weird by product of that." And this is why I make the analogy of the ZA being a metaphor for our own Dark Ages. I think that when you watch the process of rebuilding and the various people involved, you see this order out chaos emerging, and though Negan is brutal, "civilization" seems to be his endgame. I think it was said of Ghengis Khan that he admired knowledge and took those learned members of the cultures he conquered to bring knowledge to his own people, kind of the way Negan is doing with Eugene. And you also see the same thing with the other groups in that each one tries bring about some kind of "civilization." For me? The group that Daryl fell in with briefly, the "Claimers?" were the worst. Maybe it was the horrific prospect of Carl almost getting raped, but even their thing was having "a code" of honesty, or never lying.
  3. What I think is interesting about these themes, (our own Dark Ages), is that it seems to take people who under the guise of "civilization" might be only ordinary, (Glen working for the family "biz)," Negan as a used-car salesman/jym teacher, Daryl, a dreg of society, and a thug, Shane, who very likely would have probably ended up on the "dirty cop" side of his profession at some point, become movers and shakers post-apocalypse. It's almost as if the apocalypse brings out the best or the worst in people, and at this point of the apocalypse, almost EVERY ONE is on par with one another as the baddest of the bad.
  4. Shows you liked way back when that probably don't hold up

    Going way back when I was a little girl, I used to watch re-runs of Johnny Sokko, and the other night as I was up late, I saw it again on LAFF, and sadly, it just.........didn't.
  5. I think for me, the whole Floki thing seemed contrived. I get that many converted to whatever belief systems of their adopted homelands. The historical Rollo did convert to Christianity, BUT, he allegedly was still conflicted all of his life between his old life, and his new life. I mean, if Floki actually had been somewhat moderate on his own beliefs, the transition might seem more natural, but because he is such an "old gods" zealot, it didn't feel right. Ragnar had always been questioning and curious, so his fascination with Christianity seemed a bit more consistent.
  6. R+L=J v.163

    I think it's pretty clear that Rhaegar is Jon's father. And if I'm following the current conversation correctly as I haven't been on in awhile, I take it there is some new information regarding this particular symbolism around the blue rose? In terms of blue roses as a sign of "treachery," I think it's more along the lines that the blue roses signify or symbolizes certain things outside the norm, and it has more to do with flying in the face of the social norms of that particular society, violation of guest rights, (a BIG no no in medieval society), as might be applied to Bael the Bard, and loosely, applied to Rhaegar defying the existing norms of the tourney, as well as what the North seems to exemplify to the rest of the Seven Kingdoms. Though it was the largest kingdom pre-Aegon, to the rest of the kingdoms, they are as mysterious and "foreign," as Dorne. Dangerous with the forests full of "wolves." "The blue rose does not occur in nature, at least not the absolute blue rose. Blue roses were at first created by dyeing white roses. Some people mistake lavender roses for blue ones. So, the closest we can get to blue roses are the lilac to almost black category. Roses lack the pigment that produces blue color. The blue rose has been painstakingly created and imbued with a special meaning. Much like its mysterious origin, the blue rose means mystery. An appreciation for the enigmatic, the inexplicable is expressed by the blue rose. A tantalizing vision that cannot be totally pinned down, a mystery that cannot be fully unraveled is the blue rose. A person who receives the blue rose is the subject of much speculation and thought. A complex personality that does not allow easy interpretation is what the blue rose indicates. Another meaning of the blue rose is that it symbolizes the impossible, or the unattainable. Since the blue rose itself is a rarity in nature, it stands for something that is hardly within one's grasp, an object that seems too difficult to be achieved. Thus the blue rose is admired and revered as an unachievable dream. The blue rose being in itself something very extraordinary expresses that very same feeling. "You are extraordinarily wonderful", the blue rose exclaims. A truly wonderful personality, almost chimera-like is what the blue rose says about the receiver. A flight of fancy, an irrepressible imagination is what the blue rose is all about. Blue and its deeper shade purple have for long symbolized mystery and ambiguity. Again, the fact that the blue rose is a flower that has been fabricated increases this sense of surrealism. The meaning of the blue rose in this sense is an appreciation for something that cannot be grasped in full measure. The lighter shade of the blue rose, which is almost akin to lilac, expresses the first flush of love. Enchantment, a feeling of being completely bowled over in the very first instance is another delightful meaning of the blue rose. Lavender and lilac have both been associated with romance since time immemorial. The blue rose is also used as a symbol of caution. It expresses a need to be discrete. Again, there is a whiff of secrecy and mystery as expressed by the blue color. New opportunities and new possibilities are also some other meanings of the blue rose. The blue rose denotes the excitement and the possibilities that new ventures bring. The mysterious beginnings of new things and the excitement therein are very nicely expressed by this flower. The blue rose is a flower that seeks to convey a message of mystery, enchantment and a sense of the impossible. One should never forget that as a flower that is not found freely in nature, the blue rose has a certain charm and unique mystery that does not reveal itself freely. Fantasy and impossibility. Hoping for a miracle and new possibilities. Many people have a quest or a fascination for blue roses. I have a book by Ibn al Awam, which was written in the twelfth century, translated into French by J. J. Clement entitled Le livre de l'agriculture. the book speaks of azure blue roses that were known to the orient. These blue roses were attained by placing a blue die into the bark of the roots. This process is explained in the book and has been proven to work by Joret, a very knowledgeable french scientist. The unattainable, the impossible."
  7. So, Negan is under the impression that Maggie is dead. When he finds out otherwise, why does it matter? Has he a thing for the widows of the men he bludgeoned to death? Does he need to cozen them while in shock to see things his way, because if he doesn't, they become war machines when left to think on things on their own? I know the Negan/Maggie dynamic is not in the graphic novel, so I wonder how Ricks lie will figure into this and why it matters.
  8. I agree with this. One of my observations is that with the exception of a few genuine psychos, by and large most of Negan's men behave almost like robots. Even with the murders of of Glenn and Abraham, the background characters were quite grim. Other than Simon, there wasn't any real chortling or gloating, (and even he behaved liked some macabre poet). At the end, when they left the group and took pictures of the bodies of Glenn and Abraham, (now we know why those photos were above the beds in of the sleeping men in that outpost), it was eerily silent, like some of these men have been in the same position as Ricks group. As for the sociopaths though, Negan probably does hold them check, so it's a double-edged sword.
  9. R+L=J v.162

    All is well here I see.
  10. I thought the pomegranate was an interesting choice for the fruit since it was such a big part of mythology in regards to Persephone being confined to Hades underworld when she ate it, so maybe an excellent decision for Carol to refuse it.
  11. R+L=J v.162

  12. R+L=J v.162

    Has anyone heard that the character of Rhaegar may have been cast? Devin Oliver, an Indie Rocker.
  13. Just catching up on the forum, but I agree with you regarding your instincts on Rick and Co. I really think the episode was effective and while it's not an episode I would watch again, because it was disturbing, I still think they did what they needed to do to set the tone as Negan was always meant to be a game-changer as a character. Of course Rick and the group are my favorites, and I hate how Glenn and Abraham went out, it wasn't unexpected. Even Cudlitz himself said he knew the character was on borrowed time as he should have died the way Denise did. As far as Glenn goes, I get why Kirkman did it. In order for Maggie's story to advance in a particular direction, Glenn had to be factored out. But I agree that the path that he and the group were following was dubious. And it was hubris that led Rick to be so reckless in his picking this fight with unknown variables. He was a Sheriff, and: A). He would have been trained to verify the information first before going head-long into a trap. B). He would have been trained to have gotten more information on the TOTAL lay of the land before striking Negans men.(Somebody had to know how vast Negans network was). I think we also have to look at the outsiders POV, and the reality is is whenever Rick and the group show up, he seems to bring the "bad" with him. I haven't read the graphic novels as extensively, but Negan does become if not a "beloved" character, at least a popular character, because he is a very nuanced character, and I suspect the show will follow that. (They are doing his back story now). He is brutal, but has a genuine disgust for the act of rape. He can kill unaccountably, but yet he respects Rick and becomes fond of Carl. He is like the ancient kings who gathers all the other smaller kings to swear fealty to him, and lets face it, the zombie apocalypse is a metaphor for the modern dark age. I'm not a Negan-apologist because I would get as far from him as I could, but as a character, he will be interesting to watch. In the show, with that bit of a Biblical twist where he is portrayed as a post-apocalyptic god, it's easy to see Rick as a metaphor for "Abraham," (especially in regards to his almost "sacrificing" Carl with Negan stepping in at the last minute), and where they will be going with their dynamics.