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  1. Discussing Sansa XXI: Parting ways...

    Are you asking about telling Sansa about Arya during the inn scene in S5? Answer to that is no; but as far back as 3 or 4 Sansa was told Arya is alive by Balelish on the docks with Roz and Shae. So whether people like it or not Brienne's update confirms she was still alive and healthy. Nobody is saying Brienne doesn't have to let Sansa know the whole story, they are saying she is making a call that Sansa may not be ready yet, your demanding she do it yesterday without regards to Sansa's condition or mental state which is a bit in turmoil at the moment.
  2. What will happen with the mutineers?

    Well a beheading is a merciful death, they did treason so their death most likely won't be by Long Claw. And Thorne must really have short memory, to keep him and Jon from coming to blow Mormont sent him to KL to place the moving hand at the feet of the boy King. Like really? Dead people tried to kill the former LC and you think the new LC is wacky, for trying to save lives and adding to the army of the dead.
  3. Discussing Sansa XXI: Parting ways...

    She's the lady of Winterfell, but she has no power to call for war,she has no understanding of war tactics, she has no military support for it, her primary job will be to get that support and get the other houses to support Jon. Do you really think Sansa's first thoughts would let's go to war, nope girl has a lot more brains then that, she wants to get to Jon, and she would defer to him and follow his advice, and he or some other person will run the operation, her maximum input would be what she saw at Winterfell with the Stannis battle and get allies to fight for her and Jon.. But we already know she won't show until later and only as a figure head at the front for moral support. Again you and I aren't going to agree, I'm leaving it as that.
  4. Discussing Sansa XXI: Parting ways...

    I'm not going over this whole thing, what military decision do you think Sansa will make???? She's not a military person, she has no training in the art of war, she'll be head of the force as a beacon nothing more. She will leave the military stuff to someone who knows tactics, the best she could do is let whoever leads know what she saw as far as how Ramsey beat Stannis nothing more.
  5. Discussing Sansa XXI: Parting ways...

    I would have answered sooner, but I kept getting 404 error: Shielding ones back has many definitions and choices of actions, again at that time with what just happened to Sansa, yes it was probably the softer of the choices she had, she will have more talks as they head North and when the time is right Sansa will send her to find her sister. For the point in time Brienne made a choice that she felt was right considering Sansa's situation and state. Since she told her that at the time that (likely Arya refused her like she did )Arya seemed safe and protected and spending three days looking for her to no avail was enough to convince her to look for Sansa. Brienne isn’t treating her as a child, she's respecting her by pledging to her, and giving the pertinent info for now : I saw your sister, she's alive,she refused my service didn't trust me as you did, she ran off and I spent 3 days looking for her and she looked well. The material information was she found her, she was with a man but looked safe and healthy, she didn't want to leave him for me and she refused my service, I tried for three days; the man's name is immaterial as far as Brienne is concern with what she knows, it would become material knowledge if she knew the history between Sansa and Sandor, she does not. Now if Sansa starts telling her how only Tyrion and the Hound kept her safe at KL, it will provide an opening. Sansa childhood may be over but the wounds and scars are still there and will be for a while, providing a name as far as Brienne knows would possibly add to the pain. And no I'm not saying anything militarily, but you knew that. We're going to disagree so I'll leave it at this.
  6. Discussing Sansa XXI: Parting ways...

    I think you are missing a point, it's not just they are advisors, they are mentors and a parent also and no matter how people look at it, Sansa and Danni are still children, high ranking yes, but still children and their advisor’s should fit all those rolls until a time comes that both Sansa and Danni don't need that.
  7. Discussing Sansa XXI: Parting ways...

    We / YOU are observers nothing more, she pledge to shield her back and protect her from harm, that is a broad statement, which her decision would and should fall into.
  8. Discussing Sansa XXI: Parting ways...

    It's not what she may or may not want to hear, it's about what may be best for a child from a grown ups perspective, as Brienne said they all had to make tough choices. And we have to leave what we want out of it.
  9. Discussing Sansa XXI: Parting ways...

    In time I think she will tell her or Sansa will pre-empt it with a task to find Arya, as far as the feelings bit, it's more of Sansa's state of mind a lot of shit just happened to her, logically it may be the better act for the moment, it comes down to what may be best at that moment, the who isn't as important as Arya seemed safe and she didn't looked like she was abused with this person.
  10. Discussing Sansa XXI: Parting ways...

    I've been himming and hawing on this all night, so I'll just say what I did in another group forum: Pod, Brienne and everyone else knows about Sandor, what they don't know is how Sandor has protected BOTH girls,Sasna at KL where he has a rep as Joffry's dog and as far as anyone knows KG to Joffery and Cersi's lap dog, only Tyrion knows he saved Sansa from the rapist and a few knows he covered her up when Tyrion stopped Trant's beating her; as far as the arrest of Ned Stark, his sword was drawn ready to protect the King . On the traitors bridge only he saw and stopped her from pushing the King, saving her life in doing so,Trant or Blount already left the area and Joffry was cluless. A few may know he saved her from a gang rape in KL but farther from the city less likely so. When she fainted on her balcony and almost went over he was there to save her. And no one knows except Sansa that he offered to take her out of KL. All Pod and the rest at KL know is he deserted his post with some choice words for the King. Brienne knows none of this because the Hound was long gone before she showed up in KL. He leaves KL and his reputation is of a deserter or mad dog going on a killing spree ( because his helmet was taken) and kidnapping a girl and wanting to sell her for ransom, neither Hotpie or Gendry or anyone else; including Pod or Brienne knows he was actually protecting her, when they meet, Brienne doesn't know who he is, but Pod does and they both think he's kidnapping her, they don't realize he's protecting her and they come off as Lannister agents and neither the Hound or Arya trust them; so even though Brienne knows it's the Hound she doesn't really know why they stayed together; in her mind Sandor is a killer and if she tells Sansa she may feel it be an unnecessary worry for her, hence the some man was with her and Arya seem to be safe with him. It's Arya's version of the devil you know versus the ones you don't, she just leaves him to die, where sis may out right kill her devil.
  11. Discussing Sansa XX: Run, Sansa, run...

    It's to have power over the north, it's the only way that the north won't go against them, that's not appeasement, the north don't want the Boltons as their lord period, not having other houses present could be the writers way of showing this, or lazy writing, either way ,right now the Boltons are screwed.
  12. Discussing Sansa XX: Run, Sansa, run...

    As far as what was presented only Bolton people there, the wedding wasn't to appease the northern lords, it was Boltons way to claim WF by claiming ownership of Sansa Stark, the writers will then try and give some reason to make it invalid to coincide with the northern lords mostly knowing that Jeyne Poole isn't Arya and that she was forced or duped into it. If,how, I don't know as I say I want to see how they extricate themselves from the mess.
  13. Is Jon's blood a dragon shape?

    I was fluctuating between 4 different sites and someone came up with a theory that when she gets there and Jon is dead ,that she cries over his dead body, it is not in the form of a leak, just a theory, because Maisie or someone else said it will be different or surprising.
  14. Discussing Sansa XX: Run, Sansa, run...

    Yes and if Sansa discovers, she's pregnant after Ramsey dies, she has room to sex someone up or miscarry or name someone else as a father or keep it and still raise it as a Stark, the child is half Stark no way around that, and if she marries someone else, the man has the option of claiming the child as his own. The Bolton soldiers are calling her Bolton due to marriage, but a majority of the north will look at it as a forced wedding not of her choosing as they kept other northern houses away from the wedding.
  15. Discussing Sansa XX: Run, Sansa, run...

    To me legally maybe yes maybe no, there is a law where one can't be tricked,manipulated or forced and Sansa has room to play those cards. Or until such time either she doesn't produce an heir or Ramsey bites it; if she discovers she's pregnant after he dies, she will have some decisions to wade through, but if she keeps it she raise it as a Stark, remember Marge gave her the talk on how Mothers are the influence on their children. As far as being called Lady Stark, all the high borne woman seem to be called by their maiden names as much as their married name