kissdbyfire

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  1. How about all the people she sent to Qyburn? That alone is enough to paint her as a villain in my book.
  2. Nope, not allowed even in spoiler tags.
  3. Welcome back! Bold: Same here. Although my experiences have been different regarding spoilers... I haven't had a hard time avoiding them. Lucky me, I guess. And couldn't agree more irt the difference between a well-written book full of details and character development and... GoT. Yes, we're still here. Some of us anyways. The forum rules are actually quite strict regarding show stuff here, even in spoiler tags, it's not allowed. There's a pinned thread (main page), but sadly not everyone reads it. I'm always linking it when people start using silly show arguments to defend book theories. But for the most part it's not a huge issue b/c it's quite easy to avoid these threads - you can spot them a mile off by the thread titles. It's trickier when someone posts a comment including show spoilers, but that doesn't happen too often. Hope this helps.
  4. Agree 100% w/ @LindsayLohan and @Free Northman Reborn. And will add that imo Tywin is an utterly despicable human being. @TMIFairy, Jaime never raped Tysha, only Tyrion (and the other Lannister men of course)
  5. Nope. It makes no sense for anyone to believe he sent Mance b/c they all saw Mance die. As far as they're concerned, Jon sent someone/Rattleshirt but not Mance.
  6. @40 Thousand Skeletons, he did indeed read the PL. But everyone and their dogs saw Mance Rayder burn (and then get shot by arrows), and as far as anyone (other than Mance, Mel and Jon) is concerned, Mance is very, very dead. Do you remember Tormund's reaction to the letter? ADwD, Jon XIII “The wildling gave the letter a dubious look and handed it right back. “Feels nasty … but Tormund Thunderfist had better things to do than learn to make papers talk at him. They never have any good to say, now do they?” “Not often,” Jon Snow admitted. Dark wings, dark words. Perhaps there was more truth to those wise old sayings than he’d known. “It was sent by Ramsay Snow. I’ll read you what he wrote.” When he was done, Tormund whistled. “Har. That’s buggered, and no mistake. What was that about Mance? Has him in a cage, does he? How, when hundreds saw your red witch burn the man?” That was Rattleshirt, Jon almost said. That was sorcery. A glamor, she called it. “Melisandre … look to the skies, she said.” He set the letter down. “A raven in a storm. She saw this coming.” When you have your answers, send to me. “Might be all a skin o’ lies.” Jon never told the truth to Tormund, at least not until they start "changing the plans" and we're not privy to the convo anymore. It doesn't actually matter if he told Tormund before the Shieldhall... Because we know for a fact Jon never says anything about the Mance/Rattleshirt switcheroo when he speaks to the assembled men. It makes zero sense for any of those men in the Shieldhall, free folk or black brothers or queen's men, to believe Mance is alive. They all saw him burn, and more, the letter has other bits that aren't true: Ramsay demands Reek and Arya, but they aren't there and everyone knows. As far as those concerned know, Mance is dead. So no one can use that excuse. Voila!
  7. @40 Thousand Skeletons, letting Mance go was most definitely not a key factor in Jon getting shanked. In fact, it wasn't even a factor, let alone a key one! For one very simple reason: no one knows Jon let Mance go apart from Mance himself, Mel, and Jon.
  8. I agree. He does consider time and distance, and those are widely used when trying to prove or disprove any given theory. I suppose what will vary is how much each reader can "let go" or not.
  9. As with any of the many ASoIaF theories, I think there is room for different interpretations here too, w/ what Martin meant, or to put it better, w/ our different takes on what he meant. When he says "put down the ruler and stopwatch and enjoy the story", I take that to mean that it's the wrong path when trying to decipher anything in the books. My take is, he is saying, "there are no breadcrumbs to be followed there, so don't waste your time". And not that he's worried readers will catch some mistakes or b/c he doesn't want us to "guess his sectrets", as you put it. In fact, it's just the opposite, he wants us to decipher the mysteries, but that doesn't mean he's gonna make our lives easy. So, in this light, when he says, "don't waste your time w/ that", he is giving us a big clue.
  10. Where did I say she was lying? The point is, she interprets things wrong. On top of not being a genius. And anyone trying to connect the dots only has the dots to start w/, so I'm not sure what you mean. No, Martin didn't mess up at all. He's just telling us that he doesn't do the maths down to its minute details, and that we shouldn't be trying to figure things out this way. I am aware that there are a few options for the GiG and we need more info to be sure. This makes no sense. Just b/c you don't like a theory doesn't necessarily mean it makes no sense.
  11. I didn't say it wouldn't be significant... I agree, it is. But Mel is full of it. Both deliberately, when she's manipulating someone, like the burning of the three leeches, but also without realising it. She gets a lot of stuff wrong, in part because of her bias and in part because she fails at connecting the dots. The example I used is perfect. How can she not connect the wolf paw prints everywhere? Because she's not very bright and because she's so wrapped up in her fanatic faith in Red Rahloo that she doesn't see what's right in front of her.
  12. Me neither. Agree wholeheartedly. Here's what Martin said to a fan who asked about it in regards to the attack on the Fist, Jon arriving at CB, and Stannis arriving at the Wall (http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Category/C91/P60) The reason I am never specific about dates and distances is precisely so that people won't sit down and do this sort of thing. My suggestion would be to put away the ruler and the stopwatch, and just enjoy the story.
  13. Lyanna is one of my favourite options for the girl in grey... Part of the problem w/ this vision is Mel. Despite her powers, she sucks at interpreting what she sees and worse, she's not the sharpest knife in the drawer. For instance, when she's searching for the GiG again and sees a bunch of stuff - btw, it's "lot seven", not six - she sees a boy w/ a wolf's face who throws back his head and howls, and later she sees Jon as a man, then a wolf, then a man again. She knows about the Starks and direwolves and all that stuff, and she's still unable to connect the dots?
  14. Such a bad, bad man! Agree!
  15. There's no time limit... if you want to avoid several posts w/ almost no interval between them, something that can be frowned upon by some, you can post several questions at once? You can also start your own topics if there's a subject you would like to discuss at length. How to quote: on the bottom of each post you'll find a little + and right next to it the option: quote. Hope this helps.
  16. Welcome to the forums! I'm not sure the rules changed, maybe it's to do w/ Trial of seven being linked to the Faith and the Andals?
  17. No wonder he became such a disillusioned cynic... Yeah, that's what happens when people follow all the rules all the time, keep every vow always no matter what, and obey every single order.
  18. Good examples. And reminded me of Gregor and Sandor... the latter is shorter but by no means short!
  19. It can be. Or not. It's up to the king .
  20. Here: 2) Asked if Ned ever used Ice in battle. George points out it was a greatsword, very large and cumbersome, a ceremonial sword for beheading people more than a fighting sword, so he suggests that it was "probably too heavy and clumsy" to use unless you're the Mountain. So, I think that's a pretty clear "no". 'ed by @The Fattest Leech!
  21. Don't get me started on elephants... but yeah, wrong assumption based on size/weight. It's not worth it getting into it b/c it won't be of any importance to the story. I'll leave it at, I wholeheartedly disagree w/ the idea that the CotF need less in terms of nutrition b/c they are smaller.
  22. But size has nothing to do w/ nutritional requirements, ask a hummingbird! How much or how little food the CotF would need will be linked to their metabolism, and we don't know anything about it, nor are we likely to ever learn. Yeah, that's logical. But being able to go back to previous numbers doesn't mean much since we are told the CotF were few in numbers even before the FM arrived.
  23. I'm curious... why do you say the CotF have "presumably lesser nutritional requirements"? Also, we know that even back before the the FM even got to Westeros, they weren't numerous, never had been. So there's nothing to suggest that they'd recover in numbers. ADwD, Bran “Gone down into the earth,” she answered. “Into the stones, into the trees. Before the First Men came all this land that you call Westeros was home to us, yet even in those days we were few. The gods gave us long lives but not great numbers, lest we overrun the world as deer will overrun a wood where there are no wolves to hunt them. That was in the dawn of days, when our sun was rising. Now it sinks, and this is our long dwindling. The giants are almost gone as well, they who were our bane and our brothers. The great lions of the western hills have been slain, the unicorns are all but gone, the mammoths down to a few hundred. The direwolves will outlast us all, but their time will come as well. In the world that men have made, there is no room for them, or us.”
  24. @sweetsunray! @LynnS, very good point about the prayer in a diff language. I'd forgotten that too. As to CH being a Raven's Teeth, well, I have zero evidence for it - maybe b/c there is none? - I just really liked the idea... I've always wanted to learn more about them.
  25. I agree that we know for a fact that Mormont's raven speaks 'human', there are indeed several characters as witnesses. But the fact that the raven speaks human doesn't mean s/he doesn't speak raven as well. As a matter of fact, it's a given: Mormont's raven does speak raven. So in the scene we're talking about the raven may have spoken in raven and Jon understood. But there's nothing in the text that suggests or hints at Mance being a skinchanger. And he is a character we spend some time with. Not only that, but it seems being a skinchanger is not that big of a deal north of the Wall. We meet several, and apart from Varamyr they're all well integrated into the free folk culture.