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  1. I would say block, because sever seems permanent and I'm guessing if the sword is removed the spirit can rise.
  2. I know you are already familiar with my inversion theory, so won't go too far into that, but basically what you've noticed is an undoing or reversing of history. Jon doesn't become the Nights King until after he was overthrown and resurrected. That way he can take his "ensorcelled" Nights Watch and attack and win Winterfell and assume the position of King of Winter. The crown is a physical reminder that the Kings of Winter were defeated and warded, the iron swords surrounding bronze means that their magical power is/was suppressed or warded. The Kings of Winter were different than both King in the North and Lord of Winterfell. IMO the Kings of Winter were possibly undead like the Nights King and only ruled during winter. From the wiki - the Seven Kingdoms: Torrhen Stark, King in the North. Ronnel Arryn, King of Mountain and Vale. Harren Hoare, King of the Isles and the Rivers. Loren I Lannister, King of the Rock. Mern IX Gardener, King of the Reach. Argilac Durrandon, the Storm King. Meria Martell, Princess of Dorne.
  3. Bloodraven is a magical being as well. He's married to the trees and I suspect "undead". Recall that in order to remain in your host via a second life you have to be dead first. His body cannot leave the cave, and it's wasting away. The Children said he's nearly gone - he's going into the trees. Soon there will be nothing left but bones and scraps of cloth.
  4. In the north the dead rise soon after death thus the tradition of burning the dead, so what is the explanation for rotted or skeletal wights? Are you asserting their bodies lay rotting somewhere before being resurrected? Or are you thinking the degraded bodies were dug up and then resurrected? IMO the various degrees of decay indicate that they've been wights for an extended period of time, thus Coldhand's preserved appearance suggests that "long ago" wasn't thousands or even hundreds of years ago. The decaying process would be extended due to the cold temperatures, but I wouldn't think that becoming a wight would stop decomposition from happening.
  5. You've lost me here, because I never mentioned any dragons under Winterfell. Not trying to start any trouble, but if we're going to give credit for that theory it should go to Snowfyre's theory Joruman and the Horn of Winter posted two months earlier.
  6. It's an old Heretical theory that there is a tunnel from the Winterfell crypts all the way to the Wall, so theoretically Brandon could have been resurrected and walked there, or someone came and got his corpse, brought him north, and resurrected him there. There is an interesting discussion on that other forum (again) that Bael was actually a singer, as in one of the Children of the Forest - those who sing the songs of earth - otherwise how did Lord Stark know to compel the Nights Watch to "fly down from their castles" to search for his missing daughter north of the Wall if he believed Bael was just a regular ole minstrel singer? If Bael was actually one of the Children, then he used the tunnel via the crypts to spirit the maid of Winterfell away, and used the tunnel again to deposit the plucked "rose" and her child.
  7. When I was thinking about the parallel inversion to waking dragons from stone eggs, I was thinking about the dead Stark corpses in their stone crypts awakening, but I was also thinking about Coldhands. Obviously when Coldhands was resurrected he couldn't have been dead very long or he'd look like Otzi there! Then after his resurrection the cold is what's preserved his appearance, but again you'd expect him to look a lot worse if he was hundreds of years old, which brings me to my second thought, that Coldhands is actually Ned's brother Brandon. Recall that Brandon was strangled while trying to save his father Rickard from roasting in his own armor and Coldhands covers his throat with a scarf. King Aerys had Brandon put in a strangulation device purchased from Tyrosh and had a sword placed just out of reach. Brandon didn't have to strangle himself, but he did, because he saw his father suffering so. The only obstacle to this would be how his whole body was transported back to Winterfell. Who would have done that? If he was placed in the hands of the Silent Sisters, they would have boiled his flesh from his bones like they did Ned, but if he was sent back home "whole", then he could have arisen from the crypts if the traditional sword wasn't placed on his crypt to keep him there. BUT - another "but" - Black Crow reminded me of the white walkers, which should be the parallel inversion to dragons. How do you make a white walker? BC suspects that Craster's sons become white walkers, but what if the babies are only the blood sacrifice, and the spirit of some old dead bones are what gets resurrected into the icy white walkers?
  8. You know I was actually thinking more along the lines of resurrecting the dead to an undead life like Coldhands more so than white walkers, but creating a white walker does seem more like the equivalent of hatching a dragon though.
  9. Was just discussing this topic on another forum in another thread reviewing the Bael story and how "waking the dragon" from "stone eggs" could be a parallel to resurrecting the dead Starks from their "stone eggs" - the crypts. Recall that fire consumes and ice preserves, that the sun and it's light is associated with life, and the moon and moonlight associated with the undead. Assuming there is a dragon, or maybe Targaryen, life inside a dragon egg, the parallel is a preserved soul inside the bones of the dead Starks inside their tombs. The right type of blood sacrifice ritual brings them both to life. If it's possible for Targaryens to be born again as dragons, then the Starks are resurrected to a different sort of life.
  10. Maggy the Frog saw something, but Cersei tried to manipulate the prophecy by pushing her friend Melaria down a well so that it couldn't be repeated. Repeating it would make it come true like telling your birthday wish after blowing out the candles. The prophecy likely influenced her actions in a self-fulfilling sort of way. Was it Maggy that also warned her about the "valonquar", which has been translated as "younger brother"? Cersei is so convinced that the valonquar is Tyrion that it has influenced the way she views him. She already hated him for their mother's death, but she may not have feared him had she not been warned against a younger brother. Of course Jaime is also her younger brother since Cersei was born first, but she doesn't view him that way, because of their incestuous relationship. IMO speaking the language of tree, rock, and other forms of nature is the talent of the Children and was learned by Brandon the Builder. It's implied that it's a language that the greenseers learn as well. Osha pointed out to Bran that the rustling of the leaves was the old gods talking, so Bran was speaking this language to Ned, but his father didn't understand. Theon is a broken man, which we understand that physical injury seems to help open the third eye. He's more sensitive and may be able to understand the language. I agree that prophecies are used to manipulate the future, and Quaithe is a good example. She keeps whispering to Daenerys, so I think we should assume she has an ulterior motive for doing so.
  11. I would be careful in assuming that the book will have the same explanation for Hodor as the show. And hearing leaves rustle and preventing the death of his father are two completely different things. But Pretty Pig shed some light on a possible explanation for Bran by comparing him to another Marvel character, Kang the Conqueror. Kang is a time traveler and he leaves splinters of himself throughout time. There are many alternate Kangs, so it is possible that there are many alternate Brandons.
  12. This is my inversion theory in a nutshell: that the greenseers know what happened in the past, that there are certain patterns of situations that reoccur on the wheel of time, and that they have manipulated the wheel so that it happens to someone else. How many times have we read that so and so is someone reborn? How many times have we read similar stories that seem like a repeat? I went over some of this stuff in Heresy 192 The Wheel of Time - Eating the Dragon's Tail . The most current turn of the wheel has all the major events happening in reverse and to different families. For example the Greyjoys are experiencing and doing things that previously happened to the Blackfyres and Targaryens. We know the Children have an agenda that they haven't been entirely clear about, but they did mention the deaths of various houses and peoples, even themselves with the wolves last of all. What comes after that? What is the bittersweet ending? Is it a return to nature and Westeros righted again? The seasons rebalanced and magic destroyed?
  13. If Bloodraven speaks truth, then the past truly is the past and cannot be changed, however if you recognize a recycling of situations you could affect the future by changing the players, or rather who it happens to.
  14. I'm sorry that I haven't had the time to keep up, but I'll keep poking away... The blue roses of Winterfell are flowers - so if you pluck one they die. I do appreciate the association you've made with the godhead, because when believers of the old gods die they join the godhead. The white walkers and wights have blue eyes which seems to connect ice magic to their creation, which could be a connection back to the godhead and the act of dying in order to resurrect someone to a different sort of life. I understand the temptation to believe Rhaegar stole Lyanna, but I am not a believer. It is of course the official Westeros story and approved by King Robert Baratheon, but I believe Lyanna's kidnapping replicated an origin story of an earlier Storm Lord, Duran lord of Storm's End who took the maidenhead of a divine being, Elenei, daughter of the god of the sea and goddess of the wind. Elenei chose to give up her maidenhead and marry Duran, and that choice included giving up her divinity and becoming mortal. Thus the act of relinquishing her maidenhead, her "blue rose" led to her mortality. The story does not mention a child. I think we're so focused on the child that Bael left that we overlook the rest of the story. Recall that Littlefinger blames the "singer" in Lyssa's death, but we know it wasn't his fault, which makes me wonder if the Bael story isn't a coverup for incest? Could it be then that the blue rose is more closely associated with sacrificing "something" in order to achieve a different sort of life? "Death" has to be included in order to achieve this different sort of life. Elenei gave up her magical divinity and became a mortal human. She's a parallel inversion to the Other that the 13th Lord Commander saw from atop the Wall. And Duran built walls that could withstand angry gods. Later on we learn the Nights King's followers are sacrificing to the Others. What were they sacrificing? I think we can confidently conclude they were sacrificing human lives, and maybe even children if we're to recall Craster's "I'm a godly man" belief that causes him to sacrifice his sons. It's the Stark blood that is special for ice magic, and I do acknowledge that it could be meaningful for Rhaegar to want a child with skinchanging ability, but my biggest obstacle with this is the fairy tale trope this route would take and I don't believe GRRM would take the standard trope route! I think he wants us to believe it, but that he wants to surprise us with a twist.
  15. Maybe not reborn as in the recreation sense where the same spirits find new lives by inhabiting newborn babes, but there is evidence that the same situations come back around as if on a wheel of time, and people are finding themselves, albeit unconsciously, in similar circumstances as many of the famous heroes from the past. I will point to the Greyjoy family who seem to be reliving the lives of the Targaryens and Blackfyre Pretenders. They are poised to take and bind dragons, and use them to conquer Westeros like Aegon the Great. The Iron Captain of the Ironborn using iron swords flying on dragons to take the Iron Throne. Will they succeed like Targaryens or fail like Blackfyre Pretenders?