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  1. Reread Project: the Titled Chapters - The Prophet AFFC chapter 1

    Very interesting observation. Bloodraven was Hand of the King for both Aerys I and Maekar I. He may fit into that spotted / motley motif I agree that there's something there. The splotchy skin, runny eyes...that kid is going to drown one way or another.
  2. Heresy 194 Underworld

    If you decide to start a thread about this, tag me.
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    Aw! It means a lot to me that you would offer! And just because I like bumpin' Benjen! I agree the Sorrows is afflicted with a putrid mist, but what caused this miasma? I'll have to check out your link later, but what I was wondering is if using opposing magic against the other is the source?
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    Maybe the two "diseases" are side effects of using one type of magic against the opposing magic? For example using fire magic to defeat ice magic, or ice magic to defeat fire magic.
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    I don't recall if the stone men were brought up as part of the underworld? Is this just a contagious medical condition (grayscale), or is the disease of magical origin? It seems to be the inversion to wighting. The wights are dead with bones that remember and the corpse can be raised to walk when conditions are dark and cold and the winds are rising. We've theorized in Heresy before if the bodies were infected with a type of virus or if this is the ice magic at play. It doesn't seem to be a true life, because they cannot move during daylight hours. The stone men, on the other hand are living humans trapped in a rapidly hardening outer body, but it also seems as if the human inside cannot die. How else to explain that they continue to shuffle around even though they cannot drink or eat? We're told ice preserves and fire consumes, but becoming a stone man seems like it's only the flesh that is consumed while life is preserved inside.
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    Bump
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    OK...I'm gonna go ahead and do it...BUMPIN' FOR BENJEN! LOL I have to throw my inversion hat into the Azor Ahai speculations and say that this is the story for the "fire side" and the destruction that already happened. Azor Ahai forged his swords in order to fight the darkness that lay over the land. If we posit that the land in question was Essos, what historical darkness was reported over there? Was it a literal darkness or was it metaphorical like the repression of peoples/slaves? The Valyrian slaves worked underground, in the dark, and in some cases bent over and in extreme heat. Could the darkness be a metaphor for the situation the slaves found themselves under? Is there any other period of darkness that could explain what happened in Essos, or were they affected by the Long Night also? We don't have any reports that they dealt with white walkers in Essos, but the darkness of the Long Night may have encompassed them too. If the Long Night encompassed Essos, then who did Azor Ahai hope to fight? Whatever Azor Ahai did I think we could consider connecting it to the Doom and the resulting devastation that has already happened. Did Azor Ahai fail? If we're expecting inversions then I suspect he failed, even though he forged a great sword tempered in Nissa Nissa. And what if Nissa NIssa was actually two volcanoes? One being the Mother of Mountains and the other exploded and became the Womb of the World, then his sword pierced the heart of a live volcano. Yet that doesn't explain what happened first to lead to the need to blow up a volcano. What I do know about Essos is that there are several areas where devastation already happened: Valyria - the Doom predeceased by the eruption of multiple volcanos Asshai by the Shadow Dothraki Ghost Grass The Sorrows where the Stone Men "live" Aren't these areas for us to wonder what happened and why whatever was done "failed"? Back to the idea of inversions, can we apply inversions to everything we know about Essos and theorize what may happen in Westeros including a diversion that is a success?
  8. Heresy 194 Underworld

    Since you're sneaking out of the room, I'll tap your shoulder and try to preface my doubts by saying while I think your essays are brilliant, thoughtful and well reasoned, I still don't believe Rhaegar is Jon's father. Not because I also believe his Stark blood is what's important (which it is), but also because it feels off balanced for me. He should be all ice like Dany is all fire. They are the two main characters of which the song of ice and fire is about and inversions of each other. Jon supposedly has more of the north in him and should have two parents of northern icy stock. He should be burning black ice through and through, so I am expecting a twist and maybe someone no one has ever thought of before.
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    Whenever I read your links I fall down a rabbit hole. lol REALLY enjoyed the imagery of greenseers as wearing weirwood gowns...they are married to the tree. I quite agree. I'd like to circle back to this later on, but I've got more reading to do first. Just stopping in to give you some kudos.
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    Don't thank me, but I also do not recall who the credit should go to! Someone else found the article with the theory. I just remember reading it. I'm just so bad with remembering names. Sorry, whoever you are! I do enjoy the inversions, particularly the one about whomever created the problem in the first place has to reharness that same power to reverse it. It really does seem to be the end point for the reversal of major events. I'll be watching with baited breath as to how the essay on the Timelines turns out.
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    Thanks! I'll have to save this for future reference.
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    Snowfyre once wrote extensively about botanical symbolism in ASOIAF, especially the apple symbolism. There was so much that seemed to fit that I would not be surprised if Nissa Nissa is deliberately both beginning and end and this wildfire tree with red leaves and/or the one you saw with the black bark. So what are we to conclude regarding sticking a blade into the heart of a tree? Or was it a blade? Maybe it was more like the burned out holes in the weirwoods north of the Wall where it appears burnt sacrifices are made to the trees. It's thought provoking. Edited to add that I had found one of Snowfyre's botanical posts: Heresy 102
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    That's a new one. I hadn't heard this before, but it makes sense. I had heard of it meaning "moon" before, thus Nissa Nissa equating moon moon.
  14. Reread Project: the Titled Chapters - The Prophet AFFC chapter 1

    I can't help but think about some other characters with the mottling, dappled, spotting...like Wenda the White Fawn. Fawns are dappled, and at the risk of getting ahead of this particular chapter I had made some connections between Wenda's spots and drowning in my essay on The Queenmaker chapter. Recall Cersei's childhood friend, Melara. Melara Hetherspoon was eleven years old when she died. She was slender and pretty, though she had freckles. Cersei remembers her as “healthy as a little horse”, which could be a symbolic connection to Lyanna. She was said to be bold, bolder than Jeyne Farman who fled when the three went to hear their futures from Maggy the Frog. Jeyne was terrified when Maggy opened her eyes to greet the visitors. Running away likely saved her life. Maggy told Melara that her death was close. Many years later, Cersei told Taena of Myr that Maggy’s prophecy was true, because Melara drowned in a well. Reading between the lines, IMO, Cersei may be the one that drowned Melara as a knee-jerk reaction to being afraid of Maggy the Frog's prophecy. Maybe by killing Melara she was symbolically killing the prophecy? The Lannisters have "drowning" and "wells" in their heritage. Tywin of course if famous for drowning the Reynes of Castamere by blocking the entrances to their subterranean home and diverting a stream in order to drown everyone inside. And I have to say the evidence points to Lann the Clever securing Casterly Rock in the same manner. Before I circle back to Wenda, there's another spotted character, Sylva Santagar, known as Spotted Sylva, and “the Lyseni”. Sylva suggests the reason why the Golden Company broke their contract was because the Lyseni bought them off. “Clever Lyseni,” Drey says, “Clever, craven Lyseni.” This phrasing is very similar to Patchface's, 'clever bird, clever man, clever fool'. Sylva Santagar is the heir of Ser Symon Santagar, the Knight of the Spottswood. Her nickname “Spotted” is from her freckles and also because she’s heir to Spottswood. After the Myrcella conspiracy plot is foiled, she was captured and later betrothed to the aged Lord Eldon of Estermont and sent to Greenstone to marry. Recall old Lord Estermont was one of the insulting matches Prince Doran proposed to Arianne. Wenda the White Fawn was said to be a member of the Kingswood Brotherhood which was a band of outlaws famous for kidnapping nobles and holding them for hostage. They are blamed for attacking Princess Elia and for injuring Ser Gerold Hightower. Merrett Frey, who was branded (on his butt I might add) by Wenda, referred to her as "that poxy bitch", which could just be insulting name calling or it could mean she was sick with red spots or had scars from some type of pox. Red spots can be a deadly disease to adults, and when it's mentioned in the same chapter as when Ser Arys brings Myrcella to a well to meet up with Arianne and friends, it emphasizes the connection between spots, wells, and death. I agree with PKJane. Wouldn't this be a beautiful room to walk into! Especially if there were some way to have dappled reflections from water shining up upon the sides of the room or on the ceiling.
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    I will add my voices to the ones that have already welcomed you back and say my own "welcome back"! Ah, see, I don't recall us "butting heads". I only recall very stimulating exchanges of ideas! I really like your stuff! I read a scientific theory about the dark side of the moon and how there may be evidence that it absorbed a second moon...gosh I hope that's right. Sometimes I remember the strangest stuff. I enjoyed the irony of the Pink Floyd connections! This is by far the most interesting passage you've brought up that I had over looked in the books. It could be that the meteor has already hit planetos three times and the Wall protected it, or it's just another metaphor for the three extinction cycles or "swords" that occurred. The Children are credited for the hammer of waters, suspected of creating the white walkers, and I theorize that the last one, the breaking of Nissa Nissa was actually a volcanic eruption. Pretty Pig has a theory that the origin of the Quartheen fashion of exposing the left breast above the heart is inspired of, not only the Nissa NIssa mythology, but because there were once two mountains together at the Mother of Mountains like Missy's Teats, but then one of them blew off in a volcanic eruption. The thrust of Azor Ahai's sword was into the heart of an active volcano. Now there is only one Mother of Mountains next to a lake called the Womb of the World. I think this is all pretty good evidence that the third extinction cycle of Westeros was from a volcano, and the breaking of Mance's turtle is symbolic of the land breaking open. Actually, if you think of it, all three "swords" could be attributed to volcanic activity. I seem to recall LmL saying the Long Night could be attributed to fallout like the ash that comes with a volcanic eruption. I'm sure if I've got that wrong LmL can correct me. The hammer of waters then, would be even earlier volcanic activity like earthquake warnings.