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  1. What is Littlefinger's next move?

    Welcome to the forum. The point you made made is quite interesting to me. The broad point that you make that Mel has a significant roll in Jon's arc is where I agree. But rather than saving Jon's life again, I think Mel connects up with Dany and informs her of the threat from beyond the wall and convinces her to head north.
  2. Jon Snow complete injustice

    Jon was “Lord Commander” of the NW. By making claims on the LC, Ramsey dictated conditions of war to the NW. Ramsey has no authority to dictate terms to the NW. By declaring conditions of war, the NW has to defend itself as there is no separation between the LC and the Watch. The KW is not a democracy or a council; they are soldiers that follow the orders of their Lord Commander; those that don’t (Janos Slynt) find another alternative. Jon asks those that have taken the Black to stay at Castle Black and asks only Wildlings to go with him to take on Ramsey. This wasn’t because he considered what he was doing wrong, it was to keep the NW in command of fortifications and focused on the threat to the North. Yoren was able to go throughout Westeros to gather recruits without any problems. Alliser Thorne was also able to go to Kings Landing without problems, Jon, LC of the NW; son of Ned Stark, going South to protect the NW from Bolton's army would gain recruits for the NW and not be considered abandoning his duty. The fact that he is going to remove a threat to the NW should be looked at with approval and if he saves his sister and Mance in the process, all the better.
  3. If Sansa's promise to LF in her letter to him is an implied acceptance to marry, I could see her telling the North that Ned raised Jon as his son and that she abdicates her claim to Winterfell in favor of Jon. She would reason that Bran is presumed dead and Arya has disappeared and as the only living son of Ned, it is Jon's right to inherit.
  4. Brienne to meet ...? (Book & show discussion)

    If Brienne connects up with the BwB, Sandor could tell a story about how Ned was taken captive and who held a knife to his throat. That's something that neither Sansa or Jon know of Littlefinger.
  5. Sansa saving Winterfell, wildlings and the northerners

    The show writers didn't have Karstark say that Jon knew Winterfell better than any of us for no ... reason
  6. Sansa saving Winterfell, wildlings and the northerners

    Sansa wasn't around to see any of the events that raised Jon to LC. She wasn't in Robb's camp to see how he outmanuevered Jaime even though Jaime had the greater forces. When Sansa hasn't felt as though she was threatened or a captive, her decisions have always been self fulfilling much like her mother (who grew up with Littlefinger). Sansa still see's Jon as her outcast bastard brother and doesn't trust his ability even though he was taught strategy the same as Robb. That Jon's won over the North's ancient enemies, the Wildlings, is to her what the Wildlings were obligated to do. Yes, Sansa saw the results of a disparaged Stannis who at the time had burned his only child causing the vast amount of his support leave him. Stannis then finds that his wife hung herself with grief and that Melisandre who instigated his rise to power abandoned him. By the time Stannis got to Winterfell he was on a suicide mission. That is not the case with Jon or the Wildlings, who are fighting for more than to recover past glory. As Karstark told Ramsey a few episodes before, "Snow knows Winterfell better than any of us." Jon will have a plan that isn't going against the Bolton, Karstark and Umber forces head on. Sansa is still a Summer Child of the South. Look at the way Jon winced when Sansa spoke to Glover as if she was parroting Cersei.
  7. Sansa meets Littlefinger

    I have to think that Littlefinger still hates Starks and unlike the rest of Neds kids, Jon has no Tully in him. He may consider Jon as someone that's between him and Sansa. To me, Jon is about as safe with Littlefinger around as he would be with Ramsey.
  8. I can see this a a great possibility as scars and healing tends to be a theme in the overall story. As I read, it seems that the gulf between those that have power and those that don't is huge, and the story is of how people deal with their power and how those that don't have to cope with their situation. But, in both Westerns and Essos, change hasn't happened much in 10,00 years. The status quo has primarily been the same. Does this have to do with natural conditions, magic or both? In our world, invention and progress are the norm. In the GRRM's world the status quo may be the norm. The following is regarding the natural state of metal over time: "Corrosion is nature's method whereby metals and alloys return to their un-refined naturally occurring forms as ores and minerals" The above definition of corrosion is the natural transition that begins once steel is created to return to its natural state as an oxide. When “Ice” was reforged into “Oathkeeper” and “Widow’s Wail”, their return to “ice” seemed a possibility. In the next books, look for “Widow’s Wail” to gradually find the way towards “Oathkeeper.” This would be in keeping, not only with the two swords returning to their natural state, but also maintaining the status quo.
  9. Can Robb's will override the oath of NW?

    Have we all forgotten that this story is a fantasy. There's been very little cultural progress in 8000 years. There are dead people at the command of White Walkers. There are Dragons, Direworlves, Mammoths and Giants in this world. How does anyone consider the laws of succession absolute within the story that's being presented. Many of the characters in this story follow the lOld Gods. Those that swear to the Old Gods swear before a Heart Tree. There is a character that is developing abilities to communicate through Heart Trees, either by bending branches to shape some form or having leaves create the sound of words when the wind is blowing through them. What if a Heart Tree reshapes itself and communicates Jon's identity or destiny through leaves rustling as Jon is layed to rest. If Jon were to come back to life, would the KW still hold him to his oath? Would the Wildlngs also ignore this event? Would Melisandre deny it? Would't Jon's resurrection under a Heart Tree that told of his destiny become legend. To me, this fan fiction synopsis would fit the storyline more than the laws of succession.
  10. Conservative or Conspiracy Theorist?

    I like to entertain theory's like: Wanda = Lemore HR knows the Elder Brother GNC: Manderly knows for fact that Bolton's Arya is a fake. Arya's been to White Harbor with Ned, 2X Robb's Will names Jon.  Northern Clans checking Jon out: Jon sending Stannis to ask for their help. Unknown to Jon = leader of the Wildlings: Took their valuables before they could go through the Wall.  Possibility that I haven't trashed: HR=HS   Total speculation:   Marwyn was Maester for Lyanna's birth Summerhall was murder and not an accident gone bad.   So yeah, I'm reading between the story lines.  It makes the years between books more interesting.
  11. At least Manderly knows that the Arya the Boltons have is a fake.   In AFfC while in the HoBW Arya remembers going to White Harbor.   Chapter 22: "She had visited White Harbor with her father twice, but she knew King's Landing better." Going with Ned, Manderly would certainly have honored her as family member accompanying his Liege Lord.
  12. Perhaps the show left out the Griff plot line because there is another Aegon plot that needs to be developed
  13. [TWoW Spoilers] Barristan

    Selmy has been the eyes to provide background of Aerys reign, including events when Tywin was Hand. Just because he hasn't let us know many of the background mysteries that are still outstanding, doesn't mean he he won't in the future. Also, currently he rules in Dany's absence. His POV gives insight into who may well become the decision maker as well as the power behind Dany's army. If all goes his way in Meereen, even when Dany reunites with him, she may ask him to take a separate path then the one she travels when they head to Westeros. Therefore providing his own storyline and need for POV.
  14. [Book Spoilers] EP309 Discussion

    Yes, I agree. My impression when reading the chapter was that even though Robb's Bannermen tried to protect him, the tragedy was the Frey's and Bolton betrayal and the brutal killing of both Robb and Cat. The amount of expense that HBO would have to shell out to create the book image of the RW would be astronomical. I think they did a great job of transferring what the book intent and feeling was to the screen. Remember, there are only a few pages dedicated to the betrayal in the book, and the screen time provided opportunities for everyone in the scene to give convincing performances. That the scenes focus was primarily on Cat, allowed her to give a terrific performance in revealing first her anger, then her desperation, and eventually turning numb with grief. I read this chapter a couple of months ago, and other than the Talisa part, I think they really followed the book. The part where Arya gets within the Castle grounds to see how Robb's Bannermen were killed was different than the the book. But,this may add to her characters development which has grown immensely during the past 2 seasons.
  15. [Book Spoilers] EP309 Discussion

    The RW was Epic, one of the most disturbing scenes ever put on television. I re-read the chapter a couple of months ago, and the scene played out nearly as I remembered it in the book. I have to give lot's of credit for getting it pitch perfect. I was watching it with a mother-to-be who was invested in the Stark retribution. She was demoralized. I also got goose bumps with the exchanges between Arya and Sandor. "I'm going to put a blade in your eye" Arya must make Clegane wonder what little shedevil he's got on his hands. This young one is someone who talks to him without fear, threatens him, and is able to deter him from being his naturally ruthless self (like how she stopped him from killing the farmer with his goods). Each season, Arya's character has developed exponentially. The first season she was playing the little tough girl. The second season she was living the tough girl to survive the likes of Tywin's bunch. This season, she has grown beyond the little girl into actually being a young woman that can look into the soul and stare down the toughest man in Westeros. What a future we're going to be getting in the next few seasons