lostinwesteros

I think so, too!

Although I originally rated it a 7, I think a good bit of that was because Shireen's sacrifice simply cast a hell of a black cloud over everything else that happened, even Daznak's Pit. Such clashing juxtaposition, it was hard to be excited about Drogon appearance while the cries of one of the sweetest, most generous and kind hearted little girl's screams were still echoing in my mind. The next time I watched it (FF through the Shireen scene), I thought that I would have rated it an 8 if I'd just waited. Next day I watched the Daznak Pit sequence by itself and that time, it brought tears to my eyes. I thought Dorne was really pretty good (unlike any previous episodes), and I'm anxious to see what dynamics the presence of Trystane and Marcella create in KL. Can't wait to see Cerise's reaction when she encounters still one more thing she can't control. Would rather they have waited on The Wall until the final episode, rather than just showing such a brief couple of seconds about it. Really glad to see Arya out and about again, also am totally sure that she doesn't have Kindly Man/Jaqen fooled one bit. Anxious to see her reunited with Needle next week.

Yeah - even after all this time, Ser Aliser is somewhat of a mystery to me. After he finally admitted during the battle on the wall that Jon was right and they should have frozen the tunnel, after Jon has acknowledged that he's a great swordsman, after Jon gave him second in command . . . he still hates Jon. I think he'll obviously be the one to deliver the first thrust.

Yeah - even after all this time, Ser Aliser is somewhat of a mystery to me. After he finally admitted during the battle on the wall that Jon was right and they should have frozen the tunnel, after Jon has acknowledged that he's a great swordsman, after Jon gave him second in command . . . he still hates Jon. I think he'll obviously be the one to deliver the first thrust.

Best episode of the entire tv series! So glad to get Wun Wun, The NK was . . . holy shit! Powerful, amazing episode, defies description.

I have a feeling that Olly isn't going to turn against Jon now.

I have a feeling that Olly isn't going to turn against Jon now.

I gave it a 3, the first time I've rated a show under a 7 in 5 years (well, maybe one 6). The fight scene in Dorne was just embarrassing. Myrcella's dress was falling off her - she looked like a little girl playing dress up in her big sister's clothes. The Godswood looked beautiful, as did Sansa. But the rest of it (except Alfie's acting which was, once again, stunning) was just horrible. How's the avenging your family going, Sansa? I feel mean, tearing up the episode like this, but honestly, I just thought it was beyond God-awful.

Almost forgot . . . did we really hear LF tell Cersei (in preview for next week), "I live to serve." :lmao:

Almost forgot . . . did we really hear LF tell Cersei (in preview for next week), "I live to serve." :lmao:

Wish we still had the 'like' buttons to click. Love your sense of humor, and agree. I gave it a clear 10, I guess one of the few people who did, but I thought it perhaps the best episode for all of Season 4 and Season 5 this far. Loved the Bolton dinner scene, especially Fat Walda's expressions. I think she's my new favorite person. I continue to be in awe of Allen Alfie's acting. Thought Valyria was sort of magical in it's spookiness. Would love to see what it was like in its day. Tyrion was in top shape this episode. "Long, sullen silences. An occasional punch in the face. The Mormont way." Loved all the Wall scenes, especially Jon's with Maester Aemon, Sam's with Stannis, and Stannis's "Fewer" at the Night's watch meeting. Not to be forgotten: Selyse, probably one of the scariest moms ever, telling Davos to get away from Shireen because he's scaring her with talk of a battle.

Wish we still had the 'like' buttons to click. Love your sense of humor, and agree. I gave it a clear 10, I guess one of the few people who did, but I thought it perhaps the best episode for all of Season 4 and Season 5 this far. Loved the Bolton dinner scene, especially Fat Walda's expressions. I think she's my new favorite person. I continue to be in awe of Allen Alfie's acting. Thought Valyria was sort of magical in it's spookiness. Would love to see what it was like in its day. Tyrion was in top shape this episode. "Long, sullen silences. An occasional punch in the face. The Mormont way." Loved all the Wall scenes, especially Jon's with Maester Aemon, Sam's with Stannis, and Stannis's "Fewer" at the Night's watch meeting. Not to be forgotten: Selyse, probably one of the scariest moms ever, telling Davos to get away from Shireen because he's scaring her with talk of a battle.

I actually loved that little piece of humor thrown in there! Was not a Stannis fan in the books, but I'm really loving TV Stannis.

I actually loved that little piece of humor thrown in there! Was not a Stannis fan in the books, but I'm really loving TV Stannis.

I agree! Plus, she's foolish enough to go into the dog kennels? Where's her intuitive fear? Or did she just miss out on that? Maybe not Catelyn's daughter, after all.

I agree! Plus, she's foolish enough to go into the dog kennels? Where's her intuitive fear? Or did she just miss out on that? Maybe not Catelyn's daughter, after all.

And to think I believed we'd escaped Dany's marriage to Hizdah. At least they got rid of his blue hair. Evidently Rhaegal and Vision are going to 'forgive' their mom?

Loved that Sansa didn't cower during the Bolton dinner. Then, there's poor Fat Walda looking pretty durn nervous. When you're a member of the Frey family, what could be worse? Oh, the Bolton family.

Loved that Sansa didn't cower during the Bolton dinner. Then, there's poor Fat Walda looking pretty durn nervous. When you're a member of the Frey family, what could be worse? Oh, the Bolton family.

Did I just hear LF say, "Your Grace, I live to serve?"

So now Jorah rolls into Jon Con's role

So now Jorah rolls into Jon Con's role

So Jorah is now Jon Con

Enjoyed the scene with Mace; always do. Could anyone be so naive and oblivious to Cerise's insults? Ya almost gotta love him, poor babe. I also enjoyed Pycelle's saying the small council was getting smaller and Cerise's "Not small enough". And lastly, with that scene, loved Qyburns little expressions as he kept silent on the sidelines - in themselves they spoke volumes. Didn't like the sand snakes much, either. I guess the image of the sailor's head with manticores crawling all over it was meant to convey what badasses they are, but it fell short for me. Yes, so glad "the real Tyrion" is back. I thought Jorah's doing a pretty good job of being a bit crazed in his single-mindedness. So, that's what Melissandre was up to with Jon. Thought maybe the Shadowbaby trick would have an expiration date, but then I remember that when Stannis wanted another one after the BoB, she did tell him he was too weak. I love the idea that Sam and Gilly may abscond with Shireen, keeping her out of Mel's claws. On other matters, I have to say I didn't like the way the show writers brought Jaime to the point of murderous intent with Tyrion. Given the joking they'd done together over their father, and given Tywin's disinheriting and ridicule of Jaime back in Season 3, I just couldn't quite buy that Tyrion's killing their father would have such a vehement effect on him. He did obviously feel guilt when standing guard over Tywin's body and Cersei guessed that he'd been the one to set Tyrion free, but still. While I'm on the Jaime arc (just realizing how this has been building for me), I hate the way he's been basically sucking up to Cersei when she's treated him so abominably since his return to KL without a hand and that he's allowing himself to be PW'd by her. It seemed a bit cowardly to me for Jaime to blatantly blame Varys for setting Tyrion free. I was glad to see him in thoughtful reflection upon viewing Tarth. Maybe there's hope yet for him to demonstrate integrity by refusing to return to KL for Cerise's trial by combat. Ah, well, that's just me. ETsavespace.

I would like that scenario. It's seemed to me that there've been big gaps left in showing us what LF & Sansa's relationship is and how it's progressing. I'm waiting for the time LF 'gets his', and I hope it's at Sansa's hands (do it for Cat!), but I think he'll be playing the game of thrones for quite a while to come. And that kiss? I was distracted when it was shown and I'm waiting to watch the second showing of this episode. That's another :ack: for me. Lots of :ack: 's for me this episode, though I thought it was a pretty great episode.