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  1. And there is no cloth dragon or cheering crowds in any of the Aegon chapters, yet I bet you're convinced the cloth dragon symbolizes Aegon. The representations of these people is highly symbolic. I doubt there will be a scene that matches more closely.
  2. I was convinced that the smoking tower was the Hightower, but this quote from the sample chapter shows that Euron is undoubtedly the great stone beast breathing shadow fire and the castle off the Arbor is the smoking tower: ETA: I also just had the thought that the Shield Islands were the towers swallowed by the sea.
  3. Well, although I haven't settled on anything, I'm thinking the sphinx that Aemon refers to must be either the Citadel or a Lannister. I know I'm not the first to think either of these things, but that is kind of the way I'm going right now.
  4. Weirdly enough, I was reading this prologue recently and it seems the sphinxes outside the citadel are standard sphinxes. I've been contemplating whether it is significant or not that these sphinxes are different. I'm not sure.
  5. Is ASOIAF a story about dynasty reconstruction?

    I believe that the story will end up with a Targ back on the IT, but that is my opinion. GRRM hasn't said that this is a story about Targ restoration, because he doesn't go around telling people the end of the story. You are perfectly free to believe that it is not a story with a Targ restoration. Everyone is entitled to believe what they want.
  6. Illyrio's 3 heads

    Yes, there is an actual prophecy. What do you think Aemon and Rhaegar were talking about?
  7. Illyrio's 3 heads

    I am of the opinion that the three heads of the dragon that Illyrio is referring to is Dany, Aegon and Tyrion. This doesn't necessarily mean he is right. I am of the opinion that the prophecy led to the Targaryen house sigil, rather than the sigil leading to the prophecy.
  8. How rich were the Targaryens prior to the rebellion?

    Yes, the Lannisters do imply often throughout the book that they are the wealthiest family in Westeros. It is also clear that the Hightowers are very close in wealth. You can make the Lannisters number one if you want to. It would be really hard to prove which is the wealthiest since GRRM only gives fuzzy information. However, I think it would be a mistake to think the Lannisters are so far above all other households. --------- Different topic. I saw someone imply the Hightowers are agriculturalists. Nope, they are the House in charge of the oldest, largest city in Westeros. They get their wealth through transporation and trade. You should be thinking of the Hightowers as more like New York banksters here.
  9. How rich were the Targaryens prior to the rebellion?

    The Redwynes make their money in luxury wines and import/export business. Most of the Redwyne fleet is trading ships of one type or another. ETA: What the Redwynes do with their trading ships is they fill them up with the highly prized wines they produce. Ship the wines to Essos, where they trade the wine for other luxury items that they then bring back to Westeros and sell. Basically, they are making their trips pay both ways. Making them very rich. One thing that may be confusing to modern day readers is that money and power usually go together in our world. However, in feudal society money and power didn't necessarily reside in the same place. Power was achieved through alliances, not wealth.
  10. How rich were the Targaryens prior to the rebellion?

    1. Hightower 2. Lannister 3. Tyrell 4. Redwyne 5. Targaryen Somewhere in the books (I'm not going to look it up), it is implied that the Hightowers are the wealthiest family in Westeros. They are definitely wealthier than the Tyrells. It can not be emphasized enough how much wealth is in the Reach.
  11. [Book Spoilers] R+L=J, A+J=T and other theories on HBO V.3

    The only thing that makes any sense to me is that the battle occurred when Ned was trying to leave with Jon rather than when Ned was trying to get in to see Lyanna. I believe the Kingsguard were ordered to take Jon into exile, but Lyanna begged Ned to not let that happen. I know I am in the minority on this issue, but Ned having to fight his way into see his sister makes no sense at all.
  12. [TWoW Spoilers] Aeron I (Balticon)

    The comparisons being made to Melisandre are not misguided. However, Melisandre has two qualities that are not often enough considered separately. Melisandre is a red priest and she is a shadow binder. If the characteristic being displayed is one of the red priests', than we should consider other red priests. However, if the characteristic derives from her being a shadow binder, then we should consider the shadow binders we know. This is why I think Quaithe.
  13. [TWoW Spoilers] Aeron I (Balticon)

    Or maybe the horn has already been blown for Euron. Maybe whatever magic is in the horn has already done its work. If that is the case it doesn't matter where the horn is or who has it. He didn't accompany Vic because he manipulated Vic into going. By giving Vic the horn and the illusion of being in charge, Euron manipulated Vic into doing what he wanted him to. Really, the textual clues suggest Euron is going to Meereen. The only things being offered against this are rationalizations for things people don't want to happen story wise.
  14. [TWoW Spoilers] Aeron I (Balticon)

    No, what we have to ask ourselves is, is there anything in the story that indicates that Euron has changed his mind in the least? GRRM has established in story that Euron wishes to go to Meereen and marry Dany. I have provided textual evidence that Euron wishes to go to Meereen. Can you or anyone else provide evidence to the contrary? Indeed, the evidence is that Euron intended to destroy the Redwyne fleet before heading east even under Plan A. Notice this exchange from Chapter 29-AFFC: It seems that Euron was planning on the battle with the Redwyne fleet even before the Ironborn said they wouldn't go to Meereen. This means the delay to fight the Redwyne fleet is not something that occurs because of the change of plans. The reason for destroying Redwyne's fleet before heading east is because of what the Reader said. The Iron Fleet, traveling half across the world in autumn would take a terrible beating by the time it returns to Westeros. By destroying the only remaining fleet in Westeros (known to Euron), Euron makes the return to Westeros much easier. Something else he can offer to Dany. The only thing that changes in Euron's plan is that instead of trying to take all the uncontrollable Ironborn, Euron sends Victarion ahead with the only Ironborn that have been taught to obey orders. He leaves Victarion in charge because they obey Vic and Euron can't be sure they'd continue to obey without him. The point in Euron and his crew showing up later is that they will be a surprise. GRRM doesn't like to do surprises without leaving breadcrumbs saying he's going to do it, but it seems pretty obvious from Chapter 29-(The Reaver)-AFFC and this sample chapter-The Forsaken-TWOW, that GRRM intends for Euron to show up unexpectedly in Meereen. ETA: I am going to answer your question about why not send Euron directly to Dany. The reason is because Euron=Daario. Not in the way the proponents of that silly theory think, but because both Euron and Daario can offer something to Dany (Daario about 500 mercenaries and Euron about 5 ships of pirates), but neither can offer Dany enough to make them marriage material. That is why Euron bothers to return to the Iron Islands and become king. He needs to have a title and enough resources to make him a suitable marriage partner for Dany. Otherwise, he is just another Daario and Euron is smart enough to know that isn't enough.
  15. Would have Renly spared Joffrey, Myrcella & Tommen?

    Renly could not allow any of the children to live. To think that he could have allowed them to live, you would have to believe that Tywin and Cersei would have been okay with losing the throne. I don't think there is anyone who thinks that. This aspect of Renly's declaring himself king is completely overlooked by those who think Renly was a great guy.