If two lived to ride away, and the skirmish between Ned and his men V the three KG was outside TOJ and Lyanna was inside, then where were they riding away too? Surely they would be riding on into the TOJ?
But dosen't the white walker in the show actually collect the baby? Anyone who actually doesn't think the WW are taking the bairns are crazy! In the books its basically spelt out! Yes GRRM has done alot of mysterious shit but this is pretty canonical
Regarding the popsicles /ww and the others i believe the term 'the others' means more than White walker because why would you need to call them White Walkers if 'the others' is already a term for them?
Last night whilst reading an interaction between leaf and Bran she tell him that BR is there '...... For you,for us and for the realms of men' or something along those lines. Is that because they dont now regard Bran as a man but as a GS or just payment?
This could also mean anything if they are waning then why should they care what happens to the realms of men? They say for themselves first but i they are dying out then why care?
In the first heresy thread BLack Crow said if the COTf gave the nightswatch obsidian then what did the nightswatch give in return? I like the idea it s a Stark and that Starks are not regarded as normal humans by the otherlanders but as payment and the pact. One on the wall One in Winterfell and One as a Gs.
The first heresy is interesting Capon Breath made a great point that the wall was a barrier which held winter back that 'true winter' cannot pass as long as the wall stands and the pact is true. I like the idea the others are WMD's COTF style and cannot be unmade since so much went into them unless something along the lines of another great sacrifice happens.