I think it is time for me to leave this conversation. When people are posting links where comedians are upset about the erosion of their "right" to gobsmack whoever they damn well please, for the sole purpose of making a buck, nothing I can say will make a difference. And for the record, using Jerry Seinfeld as an example is offensive, because he has an a number of occasions, used transphobic "humor."
Ah, people bemoaning the fact that the world is becoming resistant to humor that is offensive to others. When humor is directed at a specific group, which finds it offensive, there are usually two reasons. The first is that you're as ignorant as fuck as to why they'd have reason to be offended. The second is that you believe you have the power to offend them, without their being able to do anything about it. Okay, maybe there is a third reason...that you're a sociopath. People are offended by humor that they perceive as harmful to them, so what justification is there for such humor, except to say we don't care what it does to them.
No problem. By the way, in reference to this... While some of those films are negative portrayals, such as the hyperfeminization of Bree in Transamerica, the absurd series of situations, the "psychologist" who should have lost her license , there are others that while not negative portrayals, per se, are nonetheless, problematic. While I have personal issues with Boys Don't Cry, that make me view it less positively than others, what it portrayed must certainly have had an impact on those transgender people considering whether to transition. I honestly don't know how movies such as that can avoid unintended collateral damage. I only know that I have to come down on the side of helping people get on with their lives, than with concern about a movie studio's bottom line.
I said no such thing. I believe if you look for it, you will find that I said that a boycott like this could prevent similar portrayals from being included in future films. I said nothing about it preventing films with transgender characters from being made.
Even if we consider that the character is androgynous or gender-nonconforming, why is that a joke? And if, people choose to ridicule others because of the inherent message that people are an object of ridicule or disdain, because of who they are, then the call to boycott is an act of self-defense. You may have noticed that movies have stopped, for the most part, targeting Blacks, Jew, Poles, Asians, etc., but still think if they find a group that is small enough, it's okay to go after them. That's what boycotts are designed to prevent.
Words are just words? Now, I know you are trolling. You cannot be that ignorant that you do not realize words are used to provoke both thought and action in others. Be cautious about boycotts, but not telling people it is okay to laugh at marginalized people? A great concept...for bigots. Freedom of speech does not mean that speech is free of consequence. I'm just waiting for a movie that mocks the hell out of straight white men. I'd love to see a thread here, on that. And before anyone can react to that, any movie that holds people up to ridicule for what they are, rather than what they do, ought to be boycotted.
Well, I'm so glad to learn that you feel that people who are all too frequently, targets of ridicule, assault and murder because people made the choice to attack them, are fair game for those who made the choice to target them as the butt of a joke. So you are okay with the choice to offend, but not the alleged choice to be offended, and you make the erroneous assumption that people's lives aren't impacted by the offense. You want to do nothing to stop people from causing harm, but are opposed to people using one of the only effective means of protecting themselves from such harm. Your logic is flawed and your empathy is absent. I know where you stand and realize that nothing further I say will change that
People need to get over their smug feeling of superiority and the belief that if it doesn't affect them, it isn't a problem. I'm guessing, from the way you write, that you are a white male from the US. I see from your profile, you were born in 1987, so you have a good chance at being alive around 2040. I wish you a long life past that point, so you can find out what it is like to be a member of a minority group. With luck, those who you hold in such low regard, will treat you better than you are willing to treat others. Being offensive is a choice.
What I'd like to see in movies, is trans people being part of the story, not because they are trans, but because their character is an integral part of the story. In other words, portraying them as people.
A-MP, Not a problem. I didn't think that was your intent. But I do want to address the person who inquired about what actual harm is done by comedy like this.. First, a karaddin pointed out, it impacts the people that the movie makes objects of laughter. It tells them they are perceived as different, as less than everyone else, as something to be laughed at. It negatively impacts the way they live. Second, when this type of comedy is presented in a movie, it tells the public, it's okay to laugh at these people, thus perpetuating the problem. I also want to address the absurdity of telling marginalized people that they shouldn't be offended, or are being too sensitive about things that portray them as "others." Tell, me how this can possibly not be seen as saying, we are superior to you so we get to decide what is offensive. Priscilla and Transamerica are really tacky portrayals of trans women. And all the comedy is about who they are. None of it would work if the character wasn't trans. Boys Don't Cry and one that wasn't mentioned, Soldier's Girl, are about trans people, or their partners being murdered. The message is not to get involved with trans people. And yes, none of these movies ever uses a trans actor to portray a trans character. Obviously, there is little respect by the producers of these movies, for the characters in them. Your privilege is showing. "It's not a problem I face, so it's unimportant."
The reason for a boycott is really quite simple. Hollywood repeats what is financially successful. And since people who produce this kind of movie don't give a damn about the people they are offending. There is another movie in the early stages, that if this movie is successfully boycotted, might not even be made.