theguyfromtheVale

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  1. So, can we already say that Charlottesville was the result of a White Walker invasion?
  2. But if you always only take the examples that are most representative of the general population, you're just going to reenforce your own stereotypes about who we are, instead of taking a hard look at what actually did and did not happen. That's precisely what Rippounet talks about with respect to the danger of national narratives. Your concern about London's "loss" of culture mainly betrays a general misunderstanding of what cities, particularly large trade-based metropoleis like New York, London or Singapore are all about. Let's just say that by your standards, London has been losing its culture for three hundred years at least. Lastly, we're all losing our current culture, all the time. Old customs are replaced, new cultural norms arise. Nobody nowadays is walking around in togas, maille or culottes around any more, and that's fine. What has changed, to some extent, is the speed of that change and the variety of influences - but all that does is increase our choices. That may often be overwhelming, but at the same time you can still prefer the music, films and literature you prefer - because just because it's not the only thing around any more doesn't mean that it's not available any longer - quite the opposite.
  3. Now I want to see that movie. Can't be any worse than the apocalyptic stuff Emmerich has been pushing.
  4. But it does showcase what will happen to these immigrants in the not so far future: They will become just regular nonforeigners. The British royals aren't German any longer, and the Spanish royals aren't French anymore, either.
  5. The video, by the way, makes it very clear why it considers those views Nazi - it goes into the sourcess of the original video that's being critiqued - and finds Holocaust-denying Hitler fanboys and sAntisemitic conspiracy theorists all around. That original video is nothing but a nice packaging for - fascist thought. It's literally Nazi propaganda in the 21st century, and you're unable to see and unwilling to hear because people call it out on what it is.
  6. But, again, they're concerned about nothingburgers. Look, I'm not calling people who hold those beliefs Nazis. I call the information Nazi propaganda, and that's because it is. The framing is deliberate. Brits will continue being a majority in the UK for centuries, in spite of the Irish and Polish and French and Germans and... in the UK, who, in a few generations, will consider themselves British anyway, with nobody caring about who their great-grandparents were. Nonwhites immigrate to the UK at lower rates than whites, so the UK is going to stay majority white for the indefinite future. Oh, and Brexit, if anything, has slowed white migration to the UK - so Brexit, if anything, is increasing the speed at which the nonwhite population grows relative to the white population. Which is still a nothingburger, but it's also a self-defeating nothingburger.
  7. White British (by current standards) would be at 49%. But the next large numers would be white Irish, white Polish, asian British and black British. Both Whites and British continue being the overwhelming majority compared to nonwhites or nonbritish, and will continue being so for centuries. You're falling for the Nazi propaganda, and you're not even realizing it. Have a video on this very issue that crunches the numbers for 'ya:
  8. It does make you incorrect, at least on European history being lost or replaced. If anything, noneuropean history was being far too ignored before, but this is not a zero-sum thing: A better understanding of world history helps understand European history, too. Moreover, Europeans are not being replaced to any considerable degree. It's just not happening. At current rates of growth, it'll take nonwhite immigrants to the Europe around 500 years until they'll outnumber whites, and our racist way of assigning race (one drop rule and all that) contributes, too. And these views are Nazi propaganda. That they are so mainstream is precisely part of the frickin' problem.
  9. They are allowed to voice them. Their rally was permitted. The POTUS has just given them carte blanche. Those opinions are widespread and continue poisoning the well. I'll also add that those far-too-often-articulated opinions about the a priori assumed inferiority of nonwhites (what else do you want to call their opinions on racial issues?) are the ideological breeding ground for the exact kind of neufascists we saw in Charlottesville. Those are the people who believe in Great Replacement conspiracy theories, Elders of Zion bullshit and the Lost Cause, which was definitely not of slavery at all.
  10. I guess they read the US Constitution again and figured out that you can freely exercise your First Amendmend rights or your Second Amendment rights, but not at the same time. The freedom of assembly in the First Amendment is restricted to "protest[ing] peacably", and bringing guns is the opposite of peacefulness.
  11. Eh, Trump is, human. Vile, but human nonetheless.
  12. Thank you. Now I'll have the image of my dog whistling Tubular Bells stuck in my head for the rest of the week. And I don't even have a dog!
  13. The majority who didn't vote for him don't deserve him. Those who stayed home because they didn't like either candidate or voted for that piece of manure to get Gorsuch, on the other hand? Pretty much...
  14. Considering Godwin's opinion on the matter...
  15. Millions of Germans, Italians and Spaniards failed to see the obvious wrongness of fascism in the first half of the 20th century. I fear that far too many historically illiterate folks in the US are likely to fall into the same trap if current discourse continues.
  16. Touche. I don't think banning communism in the West is going to change anything about North Korea, though. It's not an internal problem for the West in the same way as fascists killing people for their opinions or ethnicities. There are no communist McVeigh, no communist NSU, no communist Breivik, no communist Roof, no communist Fields, and there has been nothing like that in the West for a quarter century.
  17. @James Arryn I'm tongue in cheek. But at the same time, I'm quite serious that that process would be massively beneficial. If only the US could get away from their gun fetish... @Khaleesi did nothing wrong Are violent communists really a prominent problem anywhere in the world, at this time?
  18. It's far from a gun ban, everybody is still allowed to posess whatever they want and bring it everywhere... except that one day a year they attend their tea party. It's really the minimally invasive approach to making demonstrations safer for everybody.
  19. Carrying guns may be legal, but that doesn't mean holding a protest with guns has to be. Simply stipulate in the rally permit that it is only valid as long as there are no guns at the demonstration. Problem solved.
  20. You missed the Reichstagsbrand moment. Otherwise, nah, everything is fine.
  21. @OGE I tend to oppose restrictions to freedom of speech, too. It's this one issue (apart from yelling Fire! in a crowded room or similar things) where I think restrictions are appropriate. The only way to protect free speech from those who abuse it to get rid of it, is to not grant them - and only them - this right for this one purpose.
  22. Sure, I think this is one thing we did get right during the last 70 years. So I'd applaud the US if you went the same route. But isn't that precisely the proposal free speech absolutists are so vehemently against?
  23. While I think Fascism is indeed an ideology based on violence against "others", it's the weapons thing this judgement should be based on. No matter how wrong I think US jurisprudence is on Nazi ideology, encouraging the participants to bring weapons to your rally should make your rally illegal because this is indeed a nonideological standard to base this on, and one that doesn't inhibit free speech itself, but makes incitement to spontaneous violence that much harder.
  24. @OGE: I tend to repeat myself on this, but still: Incitement to violence is no permissible form of free speech. And coming to a rally armed to your teeth while wearing t-shirts sporting Hitler quotes or carrying a Confederate flag is incitement to violence. This rally should never have been granted a permit, or if it had, it should have been under conditions along the lines of "carrying arms during that protest is strictly forbidden, as it crosses over into incitement to violence territory. Any protestor who carries a gun is going to be arrested and tried on those grounds. No, torches aren't permitted either." That would have made things a lot easier from the start.
  25. I didn't claim perfect correlation, and I will agree that this is only a back-of -the-envelope thing and not a thorough scientific survey. Sweden is well-known to take its hate speech laws seriously. Norway... not so much. Nationalism is discredited in Spain and Portugal because of Franco and Salazar, respectively. I don't think it's the Holocaust denial ban per se that makes Germany more resistant to the current rise of the right. As I sad in the first paragraph, the main factor, to me, is that the countries with weak nationalists have had fascist regimes in the last century. Germany certainly drills its children with the lesson that nationalism has been responsible for our worst crimes. And yes, I think knowing what fascists look like from up close helps in defending yourself against them. Cheering on your nationalists in history lessons for defeating the other side's nationalists doesn't teach the dangers of nationalism to the same extent.