"The nw is not a democracy but it does have rules and traditions and if you want to change them you do need support and consent.".
Isn't it more of a hybrid? They elect their leader but I have read no quotes that say they are allowed to depose them. The only mention of such that I can recall is TNK, and that was done by a King of Winter and Joramun..
Also, the main purpose of the Watch is to defend against the Others. Most of the arguments seem to ignore this, but yet, Jon is doing most of what he does based on the threat of the Others and everyone else is merry and fine because these men have forgot what they fight against(and even argue their cause).
As for the men of the NW, they all disregard this as fun and a brief incursion. Sam killed one and they respond with "Sam the Slayer", as if it was no big deal or they don't believe.
Vic will die to a Valyrian blade. He thinks about it so much that it is a given fact almost. Dumb as a stump George said, and his only thought is of fighting someone with a mythical/heralded sword. He even points out that he ran rough shod in the practice yard over one of the now wielders of these blades.
Prior to Robert's death and prior to there being any known thing wrong with the realm, why did Stannis run to Dragonstone and start assembling an army? I'll grant you the wiki say's he fled after Jon's death but it still seems odd that you would try to gather an army when you are in a fortress. This thinking seems flawed to me.