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  1. [SPOILERS] Direwolf Dilemma

    If anything, I can only hope that since Big Nyms has been on her own (well, besides her minions she bosses around) and did not have the experience of being with Arya long, unlike all the Stark boys were with their dire wolves, that she gets some kind of special bonus points in the dire wolf death pool. And I wish it never happened from day one with Lady. Or Grey Wind. Or….argh! I holdout hope that since the Arya/Big Nyms separation has been an ongoing drama, plus with the old school cliffhanger/separation trope that has been building with it, will save her and buy her more page/screen time. And the tease of both connecting yet being far away...
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    Two other things that struck regarding the posts. 1. When all examples are placed right out in front and together, it does make a helluva lot of sense that it is pointing in the direction of the title of book 6. 2. I believe as others theorize too that there is most likely going to be Bran reaching out and establishing some sort of communication with some or all of his siblings and Jon. That can not drop out of nowhere, and it won't. It hasn't been. ( A good writer knows this, the author knows this, and we have all the fun reading each book and trying to piece it all together because stuff has been happening) when it occurs more dramatically and directly (meaning we literally see two siblings interact somehow and it is more vivid and/or tangible, and its not just a dream or whispers or less direct head on communication) in the next or last book. This has been building from the very first page and over many pages up until they point we are at now. And the pace I love. From starting with subtle and less mentions to more and more and with (if one wishes to do the work in a very reader interactive and engaging series. And most of us game here.) literary tools/techniques handed to us as we read to start piecing things together on our own without all being handed to us. I''ve seen the old "show not tell" used in the very best cases in this series, with too many examples to ever tackle and point out. Now we've seen many hints and even more clearer examples throughout the series, but just when you think you got a pretty good handle, readers still find more stuff. Its a testament to brilliant writing that a work(s) with mysteries and cliffhangers can keep unfolding and sustain for this long and keep resonating and perpetuating. Cause this series has some serious stamina. I think you made a very good point too that if we all keep looking, there are like a ton more maybe most of us didn't catch at all right away. Basically that there are many more points that will make even more sense as time passes and of course when the next book comes out. And I agree all the words that repeat and everything is linked and I know there are damn well tons of BR references I needed pointed out to me that were harder to pick up on than perhaps others. I can't believe, yet I can, the amount of work I will have to do go back and re-read the stuff you mentioned in a new light for me now. Lol.
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    Amazing how many times the word "wind" or variations appear with words, descriptions, etc. either associated with Starks or "Starkness/being a Stark"and even used in theirscenes. Wind is totally personified countless times. To have a lot of it here out front maximizes the effect even further. Thank you. And a great point about Osha. I also can't count the amount of times her more cryptic remarks especially towards the Stark boysdrove me up a wall. I'm like: Out with it! Now! That it lingers from her: I know, that you know, that I know, stuff you don't know… Towards them, sometimes other characters, and definitely for readers. It's like anytime LF or Varys open their mouths. When you want to yell out to imaginary characters not to believe their crap. And they both go on a condescending, falsely polite,verbal roll and I slap my forehead in frustration for whoever they are in the room with.That is not what you really mean, or it is, but its still not good even if it sounds that way, but it really means either a short term lull until the long term stab in theback,and I think I'm not being played either because I'm not in front of you,but I am? You both are fooling them and probably me too. Still don't know what the hell they'reup to, or what exactly makes them tick. Back to Osha. When it reachedthat point where I knew she wasnot exactly an earthy flower child nature girl interpreting the outdoors and amateur zoologist, nor was she trying out to become the next Old Nan and tell cute anecdotes. The more she opened her mouth the more apparent it became thatshe knows stuff. Uh, that we don't.
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    So unfortunately, I took was forced by fate and being busya long hiatus from the threads. There was also a little block involved too. Thank you Wizz, and the rest of the posters for getting me back on track with some really great posts. And I have to say too that parts of the show brought up major items, topics, issues, etc. to ponder again. Let me start Wizz with your first post in a recent bunch of posts. And some of what I have to say might seem familiar to what I've shared with you already. So I started small. I sometimes need to go off and generalize and do like a personal generalized brainstorming session/sessions.I have been trying to think of any occasion in the series where I can clearlyremember wind, and trying to let all you wrote regarding that toseep in. And I am nowhere near rereading parts (too many) pertaining to the many points that have been made.I did spend some time looking up "wind" in general to get a warmup going.I checkedout cultural symbolism of wind in many cultures as a starting point. In general, I am going to just dive in the best I can. I never entertained it. Too occupied with the other events, mysteries, and personal dramas going on in a massive large scale series.My explanation of why will follow shortly.This why the RW is such an effective group effort. There is just some stuff that if its not my "thing," an area that struck a chord, or I can't make headway or even offer any kind of halfway decent comment for whatever reason, I just won't. Until something sort of hits. Halfthe time I can't comment right away on most of the stuff you or some otherswrite because it takes me forever to let marinate. Having the busies doesn't help.When there is stuff that just socked me in the face and I never pondered, I become at a loss for words. Oh, but give me a prompt for Stranger, Big Nyms, Arya, the Hound, Gendry and other fav peopleor topics…I can't shut up. Lol. Yes, Big Nyms and Stranger are people to me. Yup. I will put this next part in spoilers just in case because it occurs later. And thank you again, because seriously a whole world of thought has been opened here. I really left the 6th book title off my radar as something to ponder - foolishly. I was in all honesty thinking:Uh, ok, duh. It just means winds as force, that the Stark rebound/comeback is near and it sets up in book 6. They will get some kind of momentum again. Their fortunes will turn for the better and they have a fighting chance again.I thought the title was great because it helped to know that after being kicked around for five books we get to see them rise again. And I left it quite at that, well, until your posts and others that have posted too. I will come back as more marination occurs and how to word what I want to say comes out. Also, was there not a sort of wind shout out on the show?
  6. Brienne and Gendry: Possible Romance?

    Nah. Just my opinion, but I don't see it. Brienne has the memory in her heart of Renly and her regrets of not being to help him coupled with her vow to avenge him. And Jaime moved into that heart. Big time. Gendry appears to only have room in his heart for the memory of his fiery, swashbuckling little scamp, Arya. (See the Book 4 cameo.) But I'll be damned if Brienne isn't going to have some page time telling him hisidentity and looking out for THE NEPHEW. Um, Gendry. They are already tied. He saved Brienne's life, and also by doing so killed a baddie that once tried to threaten his AcornGirl. Hey, he warned Arya not to talk to them in an earlier book. And Brienne was astute and cautious enough to realize that when attempting to talk about who his father was, she went to see him alone not trusting anyone to hear. Also, she is mature enough to take his surly attitude in stride. Apparently, he has a lot of crap on his mind. I think Icould guesswhat some of that is. We seem to be cued a few times in that chapter. And there is also the soap opera cliche scene where she is in a delirium and still asking for him. It is totally cliff-hanged how badly she wants to tell him who his father is. There she lies with a half chewed face like: Must….Must tell him…Must tell Gendry. She is serious about it, much was made of it, and I think it will happen. Somehow she will tell him. Or no point to the emphasis on how hard she tried to do so.
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    I can't even go there with my crazy work hours and how hard it is to come on consistently, so I'll leave it at that. I just want to thank you Wizz for the excellent piece on Piper and Vance and the Jack Vance piece. I have no words which is why there is no way in hell I can touch that. Still marinating in the brain and it was a very weak point for me as far as making connections.So much I hadn't picked up on and pieced together and it was extremely insightful and helpful. Thank you to everyone for the comments and additions and welcome to new faces (avatars) we haven't seen on here before. Hoping thatour observations and what we notice,what sticks out or sticks in our craw,and like to share with each other for more perspective on the series and feedback to questions we have or things we wonder about as readers, will maybegive you some things to think about too. And also thank you Le Cygne for the Jane Eyre comparisons. I read it years ago and was rusty and marveled at the parallels. I will try my best to come back on and post when possible. And the possible for a long time always seems to become the damned impossible. Lol.
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    I,er, changed my member title. That is all. Best New Year ever!!! Don't u think so, Wizz?
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    I wanted to say something too about the TWOW news.Of course its human nature to want something and want it very badly, and the sooner the better, for many, but...There is truly nothing like this series. It is an epic, intricate, snowflake-layeredheavilydetailed universe. For chrissakes, I can't name all the Freys let alone keep track of the billions of other names, coats of arms, places, etc. That's not even writing the damn thing. That is fact-checking, referencing, checking time, place, arcs, subplots, characterization, consistency…I shan't go on further.Its enough;that's not even the tip of the iceberg.And then there is actually writing this thing with amazing dialogue, story lines, description of scenery,etc.This is an epic undertaking of immense proportions, unfathomable to me, who is in awe just as much as I was the day I first read book 1.All I can say is: Dude, you do what you gotta do. Totally behind you.No problem.However much time it takes, whatever. Looking forward to it, is how I see it.
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    Happy New Year! Totally unable to post. I read the last few pages and caught up. Wonderful posts! And thanks so much to Longie for your articlesand the many Wizz catches and points that were made. Just a few things: -I needed that. The breadth and scope of this seriesis so vast, and well, big…but I think it looks very likely that in the RW crows, BR, weir woods, and everything hinting to the Starks being watched and the build up for Bran utilizing his powers to possibly reach out to his siblings is highly likely. Among other great things to come.I need that pointed out to me to get a sense of it. That is not something I noticed on my own in re-reads still, when I was too interested or focused on other things. Really, people. I'm more intuitive with characters. I enjoy it and it comes easier for me to notice such things.You helped me to see it easier and to get a sense of the amount of times these connections are brought up whichare notable. -The Hound yet again reflects my sentiments in a sort of insulting way. He has no filter and just doesn't give a crap, which is why we love him.So he tells them ever so bluntly, that they seem a bunch of swineherds. Exactly. He's not impressed. Neither was I. I was thinking when we first met them…and what the hell is this bunch of ragtag losers going to do?Thoros and his drinking/partying like a King RobStar, Anguy with women and blowing money, Tom and his love for the ladies. A half dead guy with a very long engagement that lookslike a walking Swiss cheese...And it took a lot of time but there is much more to the BWB. This is a vast network. Men and women, old and young, low or high birth. With various safe places and methods of communication and intelligence.And we realized it way before some unfortunate people like maybe Cersei, LF, orothers will. Lord Frey is feeling the pinch now. Well, a bunch of his relatives have.
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    Just Elder Brother abbreviated.
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    Some more Stranger. Let’s leave the QI for awhile and backtrack, shall we? When Stranger gets passed up for a promotion… Stranger: You work for them, the Lannisters. I don't, okay? I work foryou.That can change. Oh, believe me. That can change… Sandor: (looks at Stranger silently) Stranger:Can you just do it? Just get knighted and deal with the “ser” thing so I can like get a promotion too. You only think about yourself. I thought we were a team, remember? Just the two of us, huh? You are thwarting any chances I have to advance. What are we frenemies now? Thanks a lot. I want to get it…to officially be the horse of a great knight. Now, nobody will know you cry over Sansa at night when you think that I think you're sleeping or whine about your family or whatever… That stays between us. And you have a heart, a big one, but I'll just keep on pretending you are the meanest sonofabitch that ever walked through Westeros. We look cooler that way. And the romantic stuff, trust me, I'm not letting that shit out of the bag. So embarrassing... Sandor: Why are you getting interviewed? (notices that Stranger did not appreciate the sarcasm.) Stranger: Maybe. I might one day.Ifyou come to your senses and just take the damn knighthood, curse them behind their back, and let us get on with it already. You're ruining my career…and my street cred with the crying over a girl.Ooh, Sansa…I love you so much… but I'll die and never tell you because I have no balls…wah…wah… Sandor: Shut up Stranger!
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    Whoah. Never considered that. Did not think of that like ever.Now I have to let it sit in my brain and swirl around. And it always cracked me up, that reference of Stranger having a bad temper/nasty attitude. What a badass! lol. And could he make it any clearer he doesn't want to be there?Oh, how the brothers will be relieved the day that horse leaves... Just caught up with theposts. Great insight guys!
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    Go right on ahead and rag on him. That chapter was hysterical. And if that was a Jon Snow Cabbage Patch Kid reference, which I'm still not sure of, but dammit I laughed myself something silly the first time Gendry blurted that out to Arya and Ned and I read it. Hey, it was every trope of a love triangle. From a 1930's movie to a B 80's movie, where a guy with a Flock of Seagulls hairdo is like: What the hell does she see in him? Gendry just didn't say it out loud. LOL! Among the many things we've all noted in our posts over a period of time, I still marvel that the two interests of the Stark girls, let me repeat, both guys, both LOSE their helms in the series. You know, just the helms that represent their identity and their animal avatars, just like Sansa loses her wolf and Arya Needle. Its just too good. Side note: After I saw the hilarious scene with armor between Joe and Ben, I can't imagine how he would have delivered the "cut your hair then" line, if there was a Ned and things were different.(Sorry, guys, I don't have the line in front of me) It would have been great. Just imagine the snooty, deadpan "'Cause I sold armor" said like that. Oh, and the dry exasperated stare.
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    Oh, God, i even cringed in a good waybecause it was so retro delicious when I read it. And it drove home the point that she really wants to tell him. It was great. What happened to her was so traumatic and she is still on the case regarding telling him and we are all hoping she doesn't die of shock, infection, or both. Those two are the perfect Old Hollywood love foils. They are every great cop-buddy movie, but I also think the seeds of love are there too. I swear Gendry and Arya could be William Powell and Myrna Loy. Those two were excellent together. Their banter on the road is hilarious and endearing. In general the Starks are so tied to the dire wolf, their animal avatar, it would only make sense that both Arya and Sansa hit it off with and deserve and connect with two guys that have a very strong sense of self and their own unique individual animal avatar. The Bull and The Dog/Hound. Oh, I agree. Tenacious B is sure as hell NOT dropping this. When she is on the case, forget it. And I believe Its all about Jaime now, but I could see her honoring and serving the memory of Renly out of loyalty and for other noble reasons, and I'd bet money that it counts in her book that Gendry is The Nephew. She's tortured that she can't save or protect the uncle, she ain't letting that happen again.