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  1. he would've held her as a hostage and eventually forced a betrothal to Tommen just in case Joff and Sansa didnt produce kids.
  2. Hand: Tyrion Master of Ships: Davos Master of Coin: Lord Manderly or one of his elder granddaughters Master of Laws: Blackfish Master of Whispers: Varys Lord Commander of KG: Barristan
  3. im of the opinion he simply heard about several KG being seen in Dorne. Their absence from the battlefields of RR had already been noted by Ned and with Rhaegar dead, who better to give him news of Lyanna than Rhaegars supposed best friend. Judging from Ned's dream, its not like the KG were exactly hiding. They wore their armor and cloaks which are readily recognizable to anyone who passed by.
  4. Knowing that the Others were coming I think they both wouldve seen the necessity of allowing the Wildlings through. That said, I think it wouldve taken more for them to reach that decision than it did Jon because they wouldnt have spent time with them the way Jon had. Better to have them with you, than against you. Its already hard to kill Wights (especially since everyone seems to have forgotten) so adding thousands more to the army of the dead isnt a good idea.
  5. Kill LF, Stop Ned from going South, and convince him to marry Sansa to Wilas Tyrell. In all actuality Id use my knowledge of things they dont have in Westeros to ingratiate myself to the Starks (especially Robb) and prevent the Red Wedding. Other than that Id more or less let the chips fall where they may.
  6. Robb Stark :Margaery Tyrell makes the most sense as it 1) joins two great houses & 2) gives Ned and the North political capital from its southern border down through the Riverlands, & Vale into the Reach. That said, as Renly and Loras were already plotting to get her hitched to Robert in the first book Im not sure its possible. Arrianne Martell- similar situation as Margaery (dornish master plan) further complicated by the fact that due to Dornish Law she's the heir to Dorne and likely wouldnt be married off to another house Alys Karstark- the most likely choice as it strengthens relations with the Northern Houses both by marrying one of them into a great house, and by decreasing the influence of the Seven at Winterfell which arrived with Catelyn. Wynafryd Manderly- The marriage I likely wouldve chosen. While it would continue the presence of the Seven at WF initiated by Cat, I still get the benefit of strengthening ties to Norther Houses with the bonus of a larger dowry seeing as the Manderlys are the North's wealthiest house. Jon Snow: Mya Stone, insignificant in that it marries bastard to bastard, but its gives Robert the tie to Ned as family he's always desired (or so he would think). Possible Ned could find a keep or lands somewhere in the vast north to give them. Personally I wouldve given him a parcel of land that included Moat Cailin and charged him with its upkeep, improvement, and defense. Sand Snakes- I thought about it but Nymeria is a fair bit older than Jon and while Ellia is a possible choice I doubt Oberyn would sign off on it. If any of the Mountain clans have a daughter of the proper age Im sure they would jump at the chance to marry one of The Ned's sons*, even a bastard one. To be fair Im not sure if Ned would consider marrying Jon at all assuming R+L=J which I subscribe to. That of course begs the question of what to do with him. Have to assume Ned intended to tell Jon at some point even if it was on his deathbead (had he not ridden to KL). Sansa Stark: Wilas Tyrell- Age aside this is likely the best match for her. She goes south which she wants, the Reach as a region suits her character early in the story, and as an added though unknown bonus she gets to learn from Olenna. I dont see anyone from one of the Great Houses that matches up with her as Edmure is and Uncle and Lancel isnt the son of the head of House Lannister. Arya Stark: Edric Dayne- She's a second daughter and he's the Lord of one of Dorne's most respected houses. Cley Cerwyn is another strong possibility Bran Stark: Either Gwyneth Yronwood (likely a hefty dowry) or Eddara Tallhart (appeases northern lords). Also Wylla Manderly if Ned didnt already marry that house to Robb
  7. I think his feelings about the Starks will remain largely unchanged. I think a better question would be how would Catelyn feel if she found out? Both as Cat sometime before the RW and as Lady Stoneheart after it. Would her reaction be different in the two situations or the same.
  8. on paper yes, but while he may not have known the full extent, Robert knew Joffrey was off so matching him with the eldest daughter of your best friend is just wrong
  9. absolutely. Even if Jaime has Tywins ruthlessness, he doesnt have his ability for political maneuvering. Thats what Tyrion has and I believe thats what Genna was referring to. The ability to look at almost any situation and come out better than you went in because you're the smartest guy in the room, you know you're the smartest guy in the room, and you prove you're the smartest guy in the room.
  10. in the case of the Manderly's they were given White Harbor to control as it had been the launching point of several inconvenient conflicts the Starks had to fight. That it would give the Manderly's extreme wealth was not foreseen as they werent the first house to be given those lands. In fact another Branch of House Stark held them before aligning with the Boltons in an ill-fated rebellion. The Manderly's developed the harbor into the city it is today and as the Starks had no reason to question their loyalty they were allowed to do so. Ironically, the Manderly's were chased out of the Reach because the Lord Gardner at the time thought they could come to rival his house and as such got rid of them. As for the Frey's, that land was given to them by some Lord for some reason so its possible that other Lords didnt want to risk the wrath of that Lord. Its also possible that the other Lords (River Lords particularly) didnt mind initially for 2 possible reasons....1) they couldve seen the value of the crossing as its the only one for 100 plus miles and 2) the Freys may not have charged much to cross initially. Its possible they didnt charge such a heavy toll until they completed the identical stone keeps which could be defended relatively easily.
  11. I dont think he was stronger than the mountain, but he's likely second on the list of strongest men in westeros.
  12. he didnt really win anything, everyone else was simply too busy fighting each other to deal with him. exactly its still kind of irrational. He's held hostage because of Balon's actions and Balon is still in power. Theon's age has nothing to do with when he's released (case in point, Lord Manderly's son was an adult when he was taken hostage) . As for the other hostages, Im not sure about the one who went to Lannisport but the one taken to Oldtown (Blacktyde) was released upon reaching adulthood because he was actually the Lord of his House. His father died in the rebellion so he was released to assume his birthright upon reaching manhood. In Theon's case he would likely have been returned to Iron Islands in similar fashion had Balon died but he's still alive so no reason to send him back as Balon still needs to be kept in check.
  13. 1, he's an idiot and turned down a chance truly accomplish something (teaming with Robb and winning independence) 2, the bulk of the Norths fighters were away so it was an easy target. 3, irrational hatred of the Starks for helping to beat him in a war he started.
  14. she's also considerably older. While her age isnt certain, the youngest she could be given the range of years for her birth is 22/23 to Robbs 16. If Ned wanted to strengthen relationships among his bannermen then Alys Karstark makes sense, as does Wylla Manderly. Wylla also creates a dynamic similar to Ned and Cat where Robb follows the Old Gods as Ned did while Wylla follows the Seven as Cat did. If Ned was willing to search further south then Margaery makes sense (only if the War of 5 kings doesnt happen). Dont really see another viable candidate among powerful families as Doran wasnt giving up Arrianne especially to a leader of the rebellion that cost his sister her life.
  15. help Wydman then if I still can fight against the Ninepenny kings.