Chaircat Meow

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  1. ISIS aren't Arab nationalists who propose to stop at the ethno-linguistic border of the Arab people. There are imitating the early Caliphate not Colonel Nasser. My line about the flag on designated days was obviously a reference to requests for the Union Jack only to be flown on certain days in NI. Although the black flag flying over x is a claim/demand that has been made by some British jihadists and by British ISIS supporting groups ... A poor comparison. By the time of the troubles people of Irish descent in England had no substantial ties to the Irish conflict. If they had you'd have seen aspects of the situation in the west of Scotland replicated in places like Liverpool. On demographics: The Irish population, including people with one Irish grandparent (most of whom would not identify as Irish - making this statistic totally useless) is about 10%. The Islamic population is about 6% but has a very young demographic profile, as roughly 1/10 babies in the UK (maybe just England) are Muslim. Most people, especially in England, will not be that bothered if Ireland unites. It won't be seen as a threat to their way of life or their constitution. I might regret that but that's the way it is. Witness how the latest NI election got hardly any coverage. So the ultimate objective of the IRA wasn't/isn't a massive threat to the people of the mainland UK. I'm not wheeling out every report/study I've ever read on the issue for your convenience, no. What I gave you is the general profile, wrt religious/ethnic background for a Islamic terrorist in the UK and pointed you towards further reading.
  2. I didn't say the Belfast Agreement was what the IRA wanted from the start. I was pointing to what they got. IS do not have limited territorial demands. ISIS and ISIL are, from their point of view, statements of fact not intent. I am pointing to the very different demographic base of the new kind of terrorism. The first was Irishmen from Ireland (usually NI) but the second are muslims living in the UK, a group that will make up an ever increasing share of the population and whose objectives won't be satisfied by chipping away part of the British state, on the other side of the Irish Sea, which few British people care about very deeply. You know about the Irish Catholic influence in the west of Scotland right? Heard of Celtic fc? The average home-grown terrorist will be of either south-Asian/African descent. Proving their parents were muslim is a little harder (not as much in the way of statistical evidence) and a few will be converts (although there appears to usually be an ethnic element to this). The recent report into the five wards in Birmingham responsible for a disproportionate amount of UK terrorist activity is a good place to start if you want to begin thinking about the background/upbringing of these people.
  3. The 'original statement' I made was that the IRA were Irish, something most people would accept as true regardless of whether they recruited a few oddballs from different nationalities (such as, for instance, Rose Dugdale) here and there. Bolded: I'm talking about the differences in the kind of threat posed to the UK (and others). NI was a dispute that could be (and was) settled in the enemy's favour without endangering anything most British people cared very much about. In the struggle with this enemy that might not be possible. Anyway, this is off topic for this thread really, so no more responses from me.
  4. You brought up the territorial demands of bin Laden and ISIS. At the time the IRA were an Irish paramilitary movement dedicated to reunifying Ireland. The fact it had one or two members drawn from elsewhere (presumably the self-loathing British Left) is irrelevant. FYI the police thought it was very odd that the two Englishmen were taken into confidence by the IRA. If you really think the IRA weren't Irish you're off the reservation. The point is that the current aggressors are drawn from a muslim population that lives on the British mainland as opposed to a distinct Irish population in Ireland (mostly NI) with a long-running religio-historical gievance. Depends how you define rational. I knew what C4JS meant though.
  5. I am not very interested in which doomed Islamic terrorist outfit is currently flavour of the month. Domestically, the crucial difference is that the IRA were Irish living in the province while the current aggressors don't come from Iraq/Syria or wherever but are home grown, being nearly always descendants of immigrants from the Islamic world.
  6. C4JS's statement does not merit a 'wow.' The NI conflict ended with provision for a future referendum in the province which could see the UK suffer a permanent territorial loss and the Protestant population brought under the control of a government in Dublin. What will it take to end this new conflict: the green/black flag of Islam flying over Buckingham Palace on designated days?
  7. A 75 year old man, injured in the attack, has now died.
  8. The police have now formally identified the killer as Khalid Masood. Oddly, he was 52 years old. He had prior criminal convictions for violent behaviour. He was once investigated for violent extremism but was thought to be a peripheral figure.
  9. Apparently Abu Izzadeen's brother has called Channel4 to say that his brother is still in jail.
  10. Channel4 has had it confirmed that the attacker was Islamic hate preacher Abu Izzadeen. People in the UK will probably know who is he is. He was an associate of Abu Hamza and then of Anjem Choudary.
  11. Up to a dozen people have been injured by a knifeman who rammed his car into them outside the Houses of Parliament.
  12. The petition, started by John Innes, has now hit 200,000 signatures! ''We in Scotland are fed up of persecution by the SNP leader who is solely intent on getting independence at any cost. As a result, Scotland is suffering hugely.''
  13. New Panelbase poll on Scottish Independence: 56/44 to the UK when don't knows are removed, 53-42 to the UK with don't knows in. Panelbase has now shown a very big shift back to the UK, from a low point after the Brexit vote, and a corresponding decline in YES support, from 47 in June to 42 now. The poll also suggests yougov's 57/43 poll was not necessarily an outlier.
  14. I've seen reports that May's stance was actually Davidson's idea. Focus groups were apparently suggesting blocking the referendum was not as unpopular as assumed. Real question is: will there be a referendum sometime in 2020 (as the nats might desire) or will May somehow get the SNP to fight a Holyrood election before they can get a referendum agreed. edit: the petition is doing well, I think it will get to 200,000 now. ''We in Scotland are fed up of persecution by the SNP leader who is solely intent on getting independence at any cost. As a result, Scotland is suffering hugely.''