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  1. Sadly, nowadays it's really admirable when ethical principles get in the way of realpolitik. You have reason to be proud!
  2. Yes, both had the title of queen. We see this many times, for example, in the narrative of the Conquest included in The World of Ice and Fire, where there are many references to "Aegon and his two queens".
  3. Just finished it. Great read, and it's always exciting to read more Martin material after such long waits, but I expected more. Not much new information, no unexpected turns, bad editing,... I suppose it would have been much more exciting if we hadn't read TWOIAF yet, but still, I feel that The Princess and the Queen > the Rogue Prince > The Sons of the Dragon. I think it can still work. Rhanea was riding Dreamfyre by 35 AC. She was clearly one of those "half a dozen hatchlings" that had been born in Dragonstone by 31 AC. But Vermithor could easily be another (elder) one, even if obviously he could have only bonded with Jaehaerys after his birth in 34 AC. Am I missing anything? I would bet that besides Dreamfyre and Vermithor, among those six hatchlings we would find the Cannibal and Silverwing. When Aenys died, Prince Aegon was 16 and Visenya was 71. My guess is that he was waiting for she to die in order to get Vhagar. I can see Aegon wanting to emulate Maegor's gamble of waiting for Balerion, specially if he already feared that his uncle may want to usurp the throne after Aenys' death. Prince Viserys was just 13 at his father's death. It is possible that he hadn't bonded with a dragon yet? Aenys was given a hatchling at infancy, but perhaps the next generation received them at an older age. I agree that that's something that should have been explained in the narrative. I can't came up with any good explanation. A possible explanation is that Jaehaerys and Alysanne only bonded with Vermithor and Silverwing just before claiming the throne in 48 AC. Jaeahaerys was 14 and Alysanne was 12. Alyssa could have fled with her children Storm's end, and once she decided it was the right time, bring them secretively to Dragonstone to claim a couple of dragons. Again, it depends on whether we assume that this generation of Targaryens were given dragons at birth, or at their early teens. I think it works better if we go with the later. TWOIAF says that "Manfred Hightower, Lord of Oldtown, was a cautious man, and godly. One of his younger sons served with the Warrior's Sons, and another had only recently taken vows as a septon". It seems clear that Lord Martyn is intended to be his son, and Ser Morgan the one with the Warrior's Sons. I'm convinced he was murdered. Not only his psychological profile and his actions in the previous meeting were not be consistent with a suicide, but also the manner of his death is very telling. His hands where slashed open AND another barb crossed through his neck. No one could/would kill himself in this manner.
  4. It's hard to summarize but the short of it would be: The principality of Catalonia was a frontier land, forgotten territory of the crumbling Frankish Empire. It had been ruled independently for many years, but in 988 the Catalan ruler decided not to renew his oath of fealty to the new Frankish (Capetian) kings. This is considered the birth of the Catalan nation. From here, the distinct Catalan culture and language develops. In 1150, the Catalan ruler marries the heiress of the neighboring Kingdom of Aragon. Their descendants will rule both kingdoms, but as different states. Both Aragon and Catalonia retained their own courts, laws, coinage, etc., in a similar way that the different states that composed the Holy Roman Empire. By the marriage of the king of Aragon (and Catalonia) and the queen of Castille, the Hispanic monarchy is founded in 1474. Each of the constituent states retained their own laws, but the subsequent kings tried to homogenize and unify their dominions according to the Castilian laws, which were much more favorable to their interests (the Catalan tradition was full of "checks and balances", and the royal power was severely limited by the courts). This led to a series of clashes between the Catalans and the Spanish nobility, the last of which, in 1714, ended with the suppression of Catalan self-government and its forceful integration to Spain. Since then, some attempts were made to regain independence, or at least stablish a confederal relationship with Spain. The last one in 1934, ended with the Catalan president in jail. Then we had a devastating Civil War, 40 years of dictatorship, 40 more years of unstable democracy... and here we are.
  5. I disagree. To require a supermajority in an independence vote is unfair, since it actually gives more "rights" to the citizens that are content with the status quo than the ones that are not. You give the example of Montenegro, but in many other independence referendums 50%+1 has been deemed acceptable. If 54% of one place's people want to rule themselves, a don't see why they should bow to the rest of the people than doesn't. The problem with the Spanish constitution in not (only) that it's dated, but that it was written and approved in very harsh conditions. The dictator Franco had just died, some political parties were still banned, there was people still in exile, the military was always menacing with intervention, the apparatus of the regime was maintained,... Basically voters had to choose between another military junta or that constitution. And after 40 years of fascist dictatorship with continuous repression, banning of the language and without any kind of self-governance, the Catalans even welcomed that constitution in 1978. But right now, a huge majority of the Catalans would never accept a remotely similar text. And I agree with you that the Spaniards won't agree to change their Constitution to accommodate the Catalan wishes. That's why I think there are only two viable solutions: the Spain manages to submit Catalonia by force, or Catalonia manages to get independent. Either way, it won't be pretty (Although I find the last option preferable. At least it'll resolve the problem once and for all.) The Catalan government is not putting "nationalism" above legality. It's putting the will of its citizens above legality. Which is what every legitimate government should do. Actually, the root of all problems, is that that the Spanish constitution is only supported by about 20% of the Catalans, according to every poll. Which brings me to your point that the Catalan society is split. In reality, not much. There's about an 80% support that the issue should be resolved in an independence referendum, and that the losing side will accept the result. The divide is not among the Catalans, but between the Catalans and the rest of Spain. I don't think this debate is relevant when discussing about Catalonia, because it clearly meets all the possible criteria that anyone could require to apply for independence: a size and population similar to the average European country, a distinct culture and language, a national identity going back to about a millennia ago, it is defined as an historical nationality in the Spanish laws, they had self-governing institutions that where abolished after losing wars,...
  6. TWOIAF tells us that Daemon Waters was "raised at the Red Keep" and "was given the instruction of the wisest maesters and the best master-at-arms at court, including Ser Quentyn Ball". She ceirtanly wasn't treated as a bastard, and Yandels seems to imply that it was suspected by everyone that Aegon was Daemon's father since his birth. In those circumstances, I don't see why they couldn't grow up together and develop a strong attachment. Sansa is eleven at the beginning of AGOT. In her first POV: "Sansa did not really know Joffrey yet, but she was already in love with him". Just as Sansa went to Cersei and asked not to be sepparated from Joffrey, Danaerys could have asked his loved older half-brother to save her from her terrible fate. That's a very interesting thought. Even if Rohanne wasn't absent, if Daemon worshiped his father and wanted to be like him, it could even be possible that he tried (and perhaps succeeded) to seduce Danaerys. Avoiding a scandal and a public relations conflict with Pentos would be an extra reason for Daeron to marry his sister away. I'm sure he did. The Conquest of Dorne had been just 20 years ago, and surely most soldiers in Westeros had friends who had died in Dorne. And then there's their treacherous murder of the Young Dragon. Surely he was a role model for a warlike person like Daemon, and we know her mother idolized him. We know the court was divided between the Daeron-led pro-Dornish faction and Aegon's anti-Dornish supporters, that even attempted to attack Dorne again with the wooden dragons. Without doubt Daemon was passionately on his father's camp. She was 15. Perhaps in her late years he came to realize the political abilities of his brother, but I doubt very much that at the beginning she supported the move. She could easily share his father's and Daemon's aversion to the Dornishmen, and Maron was, in all likelihood, significantly older than her. Then she had the Water Gardens built for her. A secluded place away from the city, where she can be easily controlled and her bad behavior, sadness or inconvenient statements would not be publicly reported. Another clue in the same direction is Doran Martell (who's not likely to have been influenced by Blackfyre propaganda), saying: "the whole realm knew that the girl loved Daeron's bastard brother Daemon Blackyre, and was loved by him in turn, but the king was wise enough to see that the good of thousands must come before the desires of two, even if those two were dear to him." Two things worth noticing: that the Martells also believe that Daenerys loved Daemon, and that they acknowledge that Daenaerys did not "desire" it.
  7. If Visenya's mother had had a dragon, one would expect that it would have been used during the Conquest, and we would know about it. I think that we can safely assume that Baleron, Vhagar and Meraxes were all the dragons that the Targaryens had available when they started the Conquest. (and in any case, TPATQ reveals that Vermithor was born well into Aegon I's reign, around 30 AC) Aenys marrying Alyssa needs no further justification than the Targaryen tradition of incestuous marriages. They had been marrying brother to sister for some time, and with no sister available, Aenys resorted to his cousin. The same situation happened some years after, when Viserys married his cousin Emma Arryn. It's entirely possible, though, that the reason behind the incests would be the preservation of the gene-pool that allows them to bond with dragons, so your idea is not misguided.
  8. No woman in Westeros gets to decide who she marries with. Not Dany when she married Drogo, not Catelyn with Ned, not Lysa with Jon Arryn, not Cersei with Robert, not Sansa with Joffrey or Tyrion,... This is just how it works in a medieval world. Only if you judge it from a modern perspective. People in Westeros would think that taking away a girl from his family, specially if she is already engaged to someone else, is a terrible insult. And of course they'll find perfectly reasonable that the affronted families try to obtain compensations or get revenge. In antiquity, this would be considered as a "rape". For instance, in the classical "rape of Europa", she run away with Zeus and willingly stayed with him. I disagree. Lyanna leaving voluntarily is certainly reason for shame for both the Starks and the Baratheons, but still, Rhaegar taking her (and secretly marrying her) instead of delivering her back to her family is a complete breach of the social contract and a huge insult. Wars have been fought for much less. It's not propaganda. As said, Rhaegar run off with Lyanna and that makes him guilty. Period. In it could still be said that Lyanna had been "kidnapped" or "raped" in-world (not from our perspective, of course) In fact, it's perfectly possible that many people in Westeros knew or suspected that Lyanna went along willingly. It's just something that it's not very relevant to the whole affair.
  9. I agree that they are missing the point. One of the things that has been lost in their TV adaptation is the medieval mindset of the characters. They behave as contemporary people. So in their view "the Rebellion" was based on a lie, but on bookWesteros or in our Middle Ages whatever Lyanna wanted would have been irrelevant to the fact that Rhaegar "kidnapped" and "raped" her.
  10. I agree that the whole dynamics of the incorporation of Dorne into the realm and the start of the Blackfyre Rebellion have been retconned many times to fit the timeline. That said, George said this as late as 2011 (Emphasis mine): Despite Daemon and Daenerys being in love, her brother the king, Daeron the Good, was more concerned with matters of state than matters of love. There had been many years of fighting with Dorne, and failure to bring them into the Seven Kingdoms while not being able to keep them from harassing the Seven Kingdoms. So he realized that where violence failed, perhaps marriage could bring an end to hostilities and so he uses his sister to make an alliance with the prince of Dorne. It's a political marriage, pure and simple, a convenient marriage to guarantee a union between Dorne and the Seven Kingdoms. And also, he prefers to give his sister to the prince of Dorne over a bastard bother with whom he'd already had a few clashes and whom too many people were looking one as a legitimate claimant to the throne or rightful king. That was the straw that broke the camel's back, and helps lead to Daemon becoming the first Blackfyre Pretender. I imagine that they were childhood friends, and perhaps they even dreamed of marrying (being both outsiders in the court, the bastard and the girl against the four sons of Daeron). The main problem, I think, it's not that they were not married to each other, but that Daenerys was married to a Dornishmen. There seems to be a great deal of racist/anti-Dornish sentiment in the Blackfyre camp since the beginning. Danaerys, as a Targaryen, should have been married to another Targaryen. I think that if she had been married to any of Daeron's sons, there wouldn't have been that much complain. Daemon might have even swallowed her to be married to a powerful Andal lord. But giving her to a Dornishman could be perceived as an insult to her. Perhaps even Daenaerys tried everything she could to avoid the marriage. I could see her acting as Honoria did with Attila (coincidentally, Atilla was already married and with children when Honoria offered herself to him). I'm sure Daenaerys asked Daemon to help her avoid the marriage, appealing to their love.
  11. I agree that, in-story, its not a big deal. Westerosi are used to seeing Targaryens marry among themselves. In fact, the fact that they were attracted to each other before even knowing who they were will support the view that inbreeding is a natural and acceptable thing among Targs.
  12. I didn't like it at all. The long waited meetings (Jon-Dany, Bran-Sansa) felt empty to me. The dialogue gets worse and worse.The logistics of the war are getting weirder with every episode (I can swallow that Euron was able to surprise Yara's fleet, but a Lannister army capturing Olenna at her castle?). Sam healing an incurable disease in a single episode puts the entire Citadel to shame. I've given it a 3.
  13. Doran's eldest son may have died between season 2 and 4. And as said, Oberyn's younger daughters are too young to fight and of no consequence to the story. (but yes, it's bad writing)
  14. I expect Euron will demand Cersei's hand in exchange for his "gifts", and of course Cersei is not interested in him. She won't be able to postpone the decision indefinitely, so I think that the "Queen's Justice" could mean that Cersei is going to pull out a "Stannis": she'd agree to marry Euron for his help, and then behead him for piracy and kinslaying. This would be in line with making Cersei more and more crazy, and continue with the reduction of characters.
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    I gave it a 5. Dany scenes: 5. Some good parts, some awful parts.They are not finding the right tone with Dany. Arya Scenes: 3. The reappearance of Hot Pie and the return of Nymeria could have been great moments, but both were lacklusters to me. Northern scenes: 2. Very bad. Inconsistent characterizations, senseless leaps of logic,... Missandei and GW: 1. We really don't need wasting the time with this. I hope that GW is killed just to prevent more scenes like this one. KL scenes: 8. I think that the politics of the situation were well played, and using the dragon skulls to test the crossbows was a good idea. Euron's attack: 7. Nicely executed. As usual of late, the show excels at action scenes, where no good dialogue is characterization is required.