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  1. Margaery and the Trial

    Well, the only reference that we have is Cersei's punishment for adultery. For that she was paraded naked in the streets. Humiliating, sure, but on an entirely different level than losing lands and titles. Margaery deduces that Cersei is up to something huge because there were grave "consequences to her absence". The High Septon order to Lancel is also clear in this respect: "go to the Red Keep and show her the way". Therefore, her attendance to the trials was mandatory, and there was need to go in force. Not when they are devotees with a nearly fanatic conviction instead of recruits or mercenaries. Not when their leader has been treacherously killed and the greatest sanctuary of their Faith demolished. Not when their opponents are in the same city with no known significant forces. I disagree. Of course there's a risk, but there's also a huge potential benefit. Any Tyrell lieutenant who managed to seize the Red Keep and kill Cersei would have the eternal gratitude of Olenna Tyrell. He would have plenty or riches, good marriages and depending on his birth and how the Tyrell succession works in the show he could have a chance at inheriting the Tyrell lands. As for the citizens of King's Landing, so far we have been shown that they didn't like Cersei much, and that they loved the Tyrells, king Tommen and the Faith instead. Of course many citizens would be afraid, but in a city of millions there would be at least thousand who'd went to the gates of the Red Keep in rage. We are talking about the same city who rioted against Joffrey for much less. It is not. I am not saying that Tommen's suicide is something that can't reasonably happen. I just say that the transition from Cersei's pet to a suicidal boy could have been better written. I think we could all agree that Tommen as a character has serious flaws, and the writers do not seem to decide whether they are writing for a 10 year old or an adult person.
  2. What was the original plan for Lyanna?

    @Trump the Builder The KH would have never been happy with how Ned treated Jon. Hiding him in the North, treating him as a bastard and eventually allowing him to join the Night's Watch is completely against what the KG stood for. After the death of Aerys and Rhaegar, the KG considered Jon their king, and could not allow anyone to "erase" his lineage. While both sides cared for Jon's welfare, their ultimate goals were not compatible at all. Eddard wanted to keep him safe from Robert by hiding his identity, while the KG wanted to keep him safe from Robert by crowning him and killing the Usurper.
  3. Rhaenerya I Targaryen vs. Aegon II Targaryen

    Well, Otto tried to be open and frank at the beginning. He openly pushed for Aegon II in front of the king, and he was removed from his post as Hand for that. I don't think it's fair to accuse of hypocrisy the people who kept silence, because the king clearly ordered that the matter could not be discussed. What could have the likes of Grover Tully and Ironrod Wylde when the king forbid them to bring up the matter? That is, IMO, the greatest shortcoming of Viserys I as a king. He surrounded himself with flatterers who only told him what he wanted to say. He was living in a bubble, willingly isolated about what happened around. And by forbidding the debate in his presence, he only made the problem worse. He should have been the arbiter between the factions, but he choose to ignore them. By the late 120s the greens had probably lost hope on convincing Viserys, and were already planning poison... [BTW, I'm a Black supporter. I just think that Viserys was terribly wrong waving tradition away as if of no consequence.]
  4. Rhaenerya I Targaryen vs. Aegon II Targaryen

    You're completely right. George has managed to present a very interesting case with the Dance of Dragons, where every side has a lot of arguments at their favour while giving a complete logical picture of how the Seven Kingdoms came to that situation. Viserys had the lords of the realm vow fealty to Rhaenyra at 105, before Aegon II's birth. It's reasonable to say that there may be lords who honestly believe that a daughter comes before a brother, but a son comes before a daughter. And thus, they could defend their position of pledging fealty to Rhaneyra over Daemon in 105, but supporting Aegon II over Rhaenyra in 129. And I don't believe that the greens "kept their mouths shut" at all. The fact that there were two named factions demonstrates that there was an open confrontation at court, each one trying to influence the king. There are many quotes suggesting that the matter was usually brought to Viserys ("Rhaenyra was his heir, and he did not wish to hear arguments otherwise"), and I'm convinced that the blacks periodically tried to convince Viserys to change his will. It certainly is. Perhaps some of Brandon Stark's companions where pages or young squires (Jeffory Mallister or Kyle Royce), or Eddard is thinking about the extermination of Houses Darklyn and Hollard.
  5. Rhaenerya I Targaryen vs. Aegon II Targaryen

    There are always people who believe that even a king can't go against tradition, both in RL and in Westeros. If you present tradition as the basis of a person ruling a kingdom, then changing a part of this tradition is problematic. The fact that nobody rebelled when Rhaenyra was named Princess of Dragonstone doesn't mean that everyone agreed that it was a lawful thing. Perhaps they didn't rebel out of fear, or because they thought that she would be replaced by Aegon II when he came of age, or because they were waiting for the right time to rebel. The Starks, the Baratheons and the Arryns rebelled over this (and other transgressions), so someone told him. In fact, Eddard's quote in AGOT ("Robert, I ask you, what did we rise against Aerys Targaryen for, if not to put an end to the murder of children?”) demonstrates that there are people in Westeros that the king's power is not absolute and that when certain boundaries are crossed there is a legitimate right to revolt.
  6. Who is responsible for a Game of Thrones?

    When the story starts, Stannis has already retreated to Dragonstone to gather his forces, and Littlefinger and Varys are convinced that the question is not whether the war will start, but when. So I would say that the war was inevitable from the moment Cersei refused to have children with Robert. If only she had mothered at some time a black-haired baby, her whole incestuous affair may have go unnoticed and the war avoided.
  7. Of course that the showrunners are the ultimate responsible for the final result, but I think it's not entirely fair to credit them for Nina Gold's brilliant castings, Gemma Jackson's great art design, or Michelle Clapton's costumes. Specially when they were already HBO alumni, so they weren't hand-picked by B&B.
  8. Rank the 6 seasons

    My ranking would be: Season 1: greatest season in terms of focus and writing. If they had had the funding of later seasons, it would have been amazing to see. Season 3: The endless Theon torture scenes were really bad and the scenes at Dragonstone went nowhere, but most of the other plots were good if not brilliant. And the Rains of Castamere was a great episode. Season 2: Several weak episodes in the beginning, the whole Qarth subplot was terrible, and they should have done better with some of the subplots (Tyrion as a hand, Arya in Harrenhal, Theon at Winterfell,..). Season 4: Some big well-done moments (Joffrey's death, the battle at Castle Black, Gregor vs Oberyn...), but a lot terrible characterization (Jaime forcing Cersei, Shae betraying Tyrion out of spite,...). I think this was the first truly bad season because they started betraying the charachters, which are the series main strength. Season 6: A very bad season, but there were some improvements over season 5. Season 5: The worst season by far.
  9. I think that they were very important to the show early success, although I would put them only third in importance after GRRM and casting/actors (I'm not sure in what order I would place the first two). I fail to see that B&B have made "many brilliant adaptation decisions". Some of the ones you mention are the logical translation from book to screen and are decisions that any showrunner would have made (talking eagles, 95% of the songs and disguised Éowyn/Dernhelm were also axed in the LotR adaptation, but that's not what made the movies great). Many of their adaptations decisions have been questionable at best, and some of the material they have come up with is subpar. Dany's plot in Qarth during season 2, Robb's romance with Talissa, Pod's sexual prowess, Dorne,... They have also changed their minds during the series, leading to dead ends and hanging threads: Tysha was introduced in S1 but then not mentioned during Tywin's murder. Mel, Beric and Thoros were included in Arya's murder list, but then removed from it without explanation. While they have made a lot of adequate decisions, it is fair to say that they have made plenty of mistakes too. And that's no entering into the terrain of "tone" and "thematic approach", that is much harder to evaluate objectively.
  10. Arya Stark's Kill List - Who Exactly is On It?

    The living people that have been included, at one time or another, in Arya's list are: Cersei, the Mountain and Ilyn Payne, for Eddard's capture and death. the Hound, for killing Micah Melisandre, Beric and Thoros of Myr, for staking Gendry away. The Hound is no longer included since Arya left him for dead. It remains to be see if she'll include him back once she learns he's alive or she considers the debt has been paid. Mel and the BWB people were dropped soon from the list, with no particular reason given. Perhaps she no longer cared about Gendry, who had abandoned her before anyway. In any case, adding them for a minor offense and then dropping them without explanation is yeat another example of bad writing and careless planning from B&B. Ilyn Payne was also dropped from the list at some point. This is probably due to the cancer suffered by WIlko Johnson, and couldn't be helped. The producers probably thought that they couldn't use the actor any more and just decided to forget about the character. Since fortunately Wilko is fine again and willing to return to the series, it would be great to have him back (provided they can think of a good excuse for his absence during those five years).
  11. Wait. so why was Jon called the "White Wolf"?

    The Stark banner is a grey wolf on a white field. It is traditional among bastards to reverse the colors of their banners, so Jon's banner would have a white wolf. If you add to this that he has an actual white wolf around, the nickname was very obvious. The most known example of a bastard reversing the colors was Daemon Blackfyre, who was known as "The Black Dragon". Jon being the White Wolf also echoes this.
  12. Why dont slave soliders kill their masters?

    It doesn't really answer your question, but there have been actual slave armies in real history, such as the helots in Sparta, the mamluks in Egypt and the janissaries in the Ottoman Empire.
  13. Margaery and the Trial

    I would agree that those things make little or no sense in the sequence that led to the destruction of the Sept. I would add some other more: Loras renouncing to Highgarden and joining the faith when everything indicated that he could have gotten out of it with a much lesser punishment. The High Septon sending only Lancel to summon Cersei. The entire army of the Faith being conveniently confined in the Great Sept. One would expect that a movement that was a threat to the crown had many hundreds of men at its service, and many of them would be guarding the entrances of the Sept or other strategic points of the city such as the gates. The trial of the king's mother for incest and king's brother in law for obscenity should be a huge event in King's Landing. There should be crowds of thousands outside the Great Sept waiting to get the news as soon as there's a sentence. The lack of response. The devout citizens of the Faith and the Tyrell army in the city should be crying for revenge. And in fact, it should be easy for them to overcome the meagre Lannister forces in the city specially while Jaime is not there. Realistically, Cersei should not have time for empty crownings because the crowd would be storming the Red Keep. Not exactly a plot hole and not restricted to this episode, but Tommen being brainwashed to the point of condemning her mother and now committing suicide is a character development that has not been properly dealt with at all. Very weak writing here.
  14. [Poll] How would you rate episode 610?

    This episode proves that B&B are awful at portraying development, subtlety, and low key situations. But when it's time for big spectacular climaxes they are able to deliver. Also, Sapochnik is one of the most capable directors of the show. The "king in the North" scene was poorly thought and terribly written. The acting in the Daario-Dany farewell should have been much more emotional (although admittedly the show has not done much for the Daario-Dany relationship). Exiling Melisandre made no sense (either she is a valuable asset against the others and you keep her, or she isn't and the law is applied). For these three "failures" I'm giving it a 7. But still it's the best episode of the season, by far.
  15. I've given it a 4. As usual, I wish we could vote for separate categories because I'd like to vote 2 for the writing and 9 for the execution. We've got excellent production values and amazing acting, but at the service of a weak plot that neglects logic and build-ups for the sake of momentary shocks. On the surface it's cool and shiny, but as soon as you scratch a little bit there's nothing underneath.