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  1. I see where you’re coming from with that, but I don’t think this issue would have been as pronounced as it was for Cersei and Robert. A Cersei/Oberyn lineage wouldn’t have been in line to inherit anything, so the threat bastards theoretically pose is significantly smaller. While there’s still a social shame element, if the family lived in Dorne there would have been no group of their peers pushing that, if anything there would have been people openly explaining to Cersei how it was ok. Also Oberyn would have been encouraging of her having multiple side partners just like he had, which would have blunted the rage she may have instinctively felt on this issue.
  2. Rhaegar’s melocholy would have eventually bored/annoyed Cersei, though at a much slower and less violent pace than Robert’s unique negativity affected her. I doubt her relationship with Jamie would have been the same, but they probably would still fooled around a bit. In truth, the only potential partner for Cersei that would have truly satisfied her was Oberyn.
  3. 1. The Greyjoys don’t know how to rule, so Boltons by default. 2. The Ironborn would have done literally the exact same thing if given the opportunity. And no, there is no situation on Planetos where Ramsay can be defined as “the better man”. 3. The Boltons, simply by virtue of the fact they destroyed more Ironborn garrisons. 4. The Greyjoys, simple because we’ve been introduced to two complex memebers of that family (Theon and Asha), whereas literally every Bolton we’ve met has been a monster (Domeric doesn’t count because we only hear about him from a biased perspective). 5. The Greyjoys, just based on statistical probability. The only two Bolton’s are not only in a direct line of fire but are just as liable to kill each other. While three of the four living Grejoys would like to kill each other and are also in direct danger, there’s less overlap than here is for the Bolton boys. 6. They’re both awful people, but Roose at least has a sense of humor and knows how to plan ahead. 7. Theon. Honestly the fact this would even be a debate is kind of silly, his chapters are some of the best in the series and Ramsay is as absurdly written as the Masters of Slaver’s Bay. 8. Robb losing the North improved Roose’s opportunity to betray him, but the mindset was there from the start due to Robb starting his rebellion in a weaker position than where Ned started his from. If Roose honestly felt he was better suited to the job, he could have taken his men and left when the Karstarks did and gotten right back to booting out the Ironborn. And if hurting the North was something Roose was opposed to, he wouldn’t have strategically weakened every house but his own through his battlefield choices.
  4. Randyl Tarly for overall command and Mance Rayder as the technical expert. There are literally a thousand reasons that wouldn’t work in practice, but purely as a theoretical those two together are the best bet.
  5. 1. Lannister fleet never gets burned, so they would have had a navy in the WOT5K. 2. Even though Balon did rebuild the Iron Fleet, it’s numbers would surely have been stronger if it had never been destroyed in the first place. So the Ironborn also have more punching power, and their infrastructure to build more is also stronger for never having been destroyed. 3. While Balon would not have had a burning desire for specific revenge on the Starks, he was first and foremost an opportunist and probably would have still overall attacked the way he did in the WOT5K, but with Theon never being a ward of the Starks Winterfell would not have fallen. Obviously a lot changes from there, but those are the broad initial strokes I see.
  6. It would make for a nice ending for the character, but this story doesn’t give out very many of those. I’m going to say no, largely because I don’t think Tyrion is going to survive the series.
  7. Sure, if new informational was actually being discovered every year. But as the thesis of this thread goes, there doesn’t seem to be that much in terms of progress. The entirety of Weaterosi history is just a catalouging of small and big wars. I’d argue that since this is all that actually seems to happen of note, it becomes easy to lose a sense of historical perspective and overstate the length of time that has actually eclipsed.
  8. Agreed, that claim has seemed suspect from the start for me given how poor record keeping appears to be. The various interregnum theories (that Planetos as a whole is an old society that suffered a cataclysm setting its technology/mentality back) are fairly consistent with Martin’s other works.
  9. Lame as it is to say, I don’t think Stannis has at any point thought that far ahead. His comments to Davos about making new lords, admirable though it was, indicates that he doesn’t give much consideration to the reactions major decisions would generate. He seems pretty focused on whatever is right in front of him, though he does show growth by taking Jon’s advice about how to campaign against the Bolton.
  10. If anything Rhaegar put that pressure on himself. He decided to become the Prince That Was Promosed after reading about it.
  11. Couldn’t have said it any better.
  12. I’m going to make you two offers. First offer: Not only will you’re eldest child still marry into the powerful family directly to your North (after I killed your first chance at this), but your second child will now get to marry into the powerful family directly to your East. Your lands will unfortunately become a major battleground, but you’ll have allies all over the map when we’re finished. Second offer: Your lands still become a major battleground, but now we’re not making any promises about your childrens’ futures or who will even be in charge of the lands surrounding you. Oh, and given my mercurial nature I may decide you’re an enemy in a year’s time and have you killed. NOW CHOOSE Note: I am obviously aware of the fact the alliance House Tulley got from Robert’s Rebellion didn’t ultimately help them in the next major war to come around, but looking at it solely through the lens Hoster had at the time, his decision makes sense.
  13. Daemon was not dispositioned towards ruling on his own, he couldn’t imagine a life outside of the one of privelage he’d always known, and he sure as hell wasn’t going to work with the Greens. They way he went was really the only one that made much sense.
  14. An alternative way of looking at at chronology is that Brandon should have just ignored Catelyn’s pleading and finished Littlefinger off.
  15. Fully annexing the Iron Islands into a would be a good start, but there is an issue with long-term governance. Whoever is left in charge there will receive significant upgrade in naval capabilities (even if the whole of their fleets are destroyed those can be rebuilt, and the natives Islanders would still have their seafaring skill), heavily tipping regional power balances. While it would be tempting to make it a secondary "Prince of" title after Dragonstone to give the royal family greater control, how long would it take for an ambitious younger Prince to cause problems? The best thing I can think to do with the region is to leave as Aegon the First did to choose it's own leader, but conscript a certain number of Islanders to serve in the Royal Navy on a rotating basis. They'd be useful and could be split up enough/placed under loyal commanders.