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  1. @Protagoras I couldn't have said it better myself. Yes, Jon Connington is a man with limited time and his past mercy haunting him, so this time, he will be far more ruthless and brutal, possibly desregarding some of the most valued rules of chivarly and general condact, like executing hostage fellow lords and knights, massacres of defenceless innocents and , almost certainly, disregarding Guest Right. @Bironic,as for the greyscale epidemic, I don't think Connington would be foolish enough to start touching people around willy nilly and jeopardize his last chance of redemption, particularly with (f)Aefon. Also, greyscale is not foreign to Westeros at all, in fact we know of multiple patients. I will grant you, since it appears to occur in cold and wet climates, the Stormlands sound like the ideal breeding ground for a pandemic. However, since we have no such record of such an epidemic happening in the past, I think it is rather unlikely. Things would be different if it turns to grey plague though. Or if Danny's army lands and brings the Plae Mare with it. Then yes, unless snow falls everywhere and slows the sickness from spreading, you will get a Black Death in no time.
  2. He probably had a scheme simmilar to that with the Boltons: Give the lordship to Littlefinger for his considerable services to the realm as a reward (oh,this is hillarious), Have him weather the first storm of broken men, discontent lords, an alarming death rate of Freys, packs of wolves AND zombies going their merry way around the lands. Then, when Tywin Frey is old enough and more secure in his position, withdraw his protection from LF, let him get killed by an enemy or the Harrenhal curse (maybe give a hand to Black Harren if he seems too...slothful?) Reward the Riverlands to his grandnephew. If Edmure got to father a girl, even better, he could betrothe her to Tywin Frey and add some legitimacy to his rule.
  3. We agree on almost every part except the uncontroversial. As we see in the cases of Rohanne Wbber and Alys Karstark, while the letter of the law may favor them in theory, it is always very possible that a male cousin/uncle can press his weaker claaim and, if the deciding overlord is possitively predisposed towards him, even win them on the virtue of possessing a pennis alone. While I admitt we don't have much textual evidence, my suspicion is that, when possible, the ruling ladies will choose a cousin of their house to marry, to tie the family branches back together and get more allies within their own family. Also, I remembered that the Hornwood case to give as a good example. Berena Hornwod was not considered herself as a new rullinhg Lady of Hornwood despite being herself the closest legitimate blood relative to the late Lord Halys. Instead, the solution that would have been probably the most acceptable would be for her younger son Beren to be "adopted" into the Horwood line again. Why Beren and not Brandon Tallhart though? Maybe Beren was the least significant Tallhart and could be spared to another house. But maybe, since there was war going on, and Benfred was a restless lad likely to get in trouble, Leobald Tallhart was forward-thinking and had a mind to keep Brandon around and wed him to Eddara should it come to her being the New Lady of Torrhen's Square, making him a lord of Tallhart and avoiding conflict in the house. There is an excellent SSM discussing the matter of succession laws, and it seems to suggest that succession is often decided by politics rather than law , meanning that yes, in most cases between a male and a female cousin, with Westeros being a male-preference society, the male cousin wins.
  4. Both points are right, the Great Council concerns the throne, but given the actual lords voted for it, it appears that preference to male rulers is very, very real, and Andal custom and female claimants can be disregarded in favor of a male heir of equal grade of affinity. Accepting that the inheritance law of Westeros is male-preference primogeniture, let's give the inheritance pattern as we know it so far The first person with a valid claim is the firstborn son of the current lord and his descendants. Sould the firstborn son die with no descendants, the next eldest son and his descendants. If there is no son of the current lord left, his firstborn daughter. After the daughters and their descenants come uncles and aunts. And this is were trouble begins. What happens if there are only multiple daughters and only one of them has sons? Let's check the case of the Darry sisters, Mariya and Jeyne: The quote implies that indeed, Mariya Darry is ahead of Jeyne on the inheritane. However, Jaime is not the most well-versed man in law and custom to begin with, plus the claim of Jeyne's sons is not so much dismissed for legality's sake, but rather because "they will get the much richer Riverrun, so let poor Lance take a piece of land and a wife with some ties to it". Basically, Amarei's descent from Mariya is used more to endear the Darry Lannisters to their folk rather than for legal reasons and male-preference primogeniture is set aside for convinience, disregarding both Ty and Willem, plus still alive Little Walder, who would normally inherit through his mother. So, when Little Walder's death will get known and and with Lancel dissolving the marriage, Kevan dead and Cersei furious at them all, since Amarei will be too old and slutty to marry Martyn, I think that Tywin and Willem's claims will be considered superior to Ami's, older Mariya and all, and one of them, possibly Willem, could get back Darry from his non-Darry Lannister cousins. Again, I may be wrong, the circumstances in which ladies (like Lady Waynwood or Oakheart) came to rule their Houses. Did they marry cousins to consolidate their control their lands? Are there cousins making noises against their rule on the account of their sex? Until we learn, we can only speculate.
  5. Alys comes before Arnolf and his ilk because she is daughter of Lord Rickard and sister of Harrion. Both Sansa and Robert are nephew and niece to Edmure, so, as the Great Council results tell us, a male is preferred to a female of equal grade of kinship and thus Robert, in the absence of Bran and Rickon, comes first.
  6. I think @Nevets said it best. When he has the situation sorted out in the Vale and things look better in the Riverlands, I think he will be happy to go and remind them who's boss. As for the emptiness of the title in the quote by Sansa in ACoK, I think it refers more to Harrenhal being captured by Roose Bolton at the time and the Tullys and Robb being still very much alive and kicking, which means Joffrey gave LF titles he didn't even control of at the time. After the Red Wedding and the Fall of Riverrun though, the titles passed to the Crown in reality aswell, so the grants suddenly become very, very real. To my best knowledge, male-preference primogeniture always tries to put a male in hold of said title as soon as possible. So if the claimants are all sisters, and they all have male children, the oldest sister inherits. If not, then the oldest with male children. If no male offspring exist, the firstborn daughter of the firstborn daughter. So, even though Sansa is the daughter of the older Catelyn, she gets behind Robert sinse she lacks ... several parts to qualify her as male.
  7. Ser Byron the Beutiful. He didn't earn his nickname for nothing. Also, Baelor Breakspear. He is not a classicaly beautiful man, yes, but he has a very attractive "ideal future baby-pappa" air around him.
  8. Exactly.
  9. On a first glance I would say so myself, but let's keep in mind that Andals did loose battles against First Men when they landed, especially in the North, which means that bronze against steel can be effective sometimes. The Thenns have probably the most similar equipment and fighting style to that of the original First Men. The Knights though, are a bit less clear, since we don't know if their armor during the Invasion was chainmail or was proper plate armor. However, even if the current average knight wore plate, as the fight between the Mountain and Oberyn Martell taught us, armors have weak points, especially at the foot joints, so it is possible for a lucky spear thrust to injure the knight's knee and bring him down, after which he becomes much more vulnerable. Another question is where would the fight take place. On a dry and flat plain down in the south the knight is benefited by the spacious surroundings and able to easily swing his arms and get a decent range. On a rough and potentially snowy and forested terrain in the North, though, particularly above the Wall, Styr gets the advantage of the rough terrain he is accustomed to.
  10. I think that he simply didn't pay her enough attention to make the connection. She is, afterall, the 9-year-old second daugter of his friend and not an exceptionally pretty little girl. Not a potential squire or future lord or battle commander, neither a pottential match for his son. Now, later on, Jamie does realise that poor Jeyne is not Arya, but only because of the age deference. Also, let's keep in mind that we often recognize people, little kids especially, because of their association with people we do know. It happened to me as a young child not be recognized by my family aquintances, and now even I can't recognize some young children I am not very familiar with unless I see them with their parents. So ,if Lyanna survived and Robert saw her and Arya together he would have noticed. Since he, however, never really observed Arya and probably has a pretty hazy memory of Lyanna to begin with, he doesn't make the connection.
  11. The Golem? Ser Franken-Gregor? Possibly headless and brainless? It is the bright pink tutu part, isn't it?
  12. A living man, not an ectoplasm, you naughty, naugty moving castle in a swamp
  13. If anything, Littlefinger is a high stakes gambler. As I said before, if he wishes to keep the title of Lord Protector, he will have to get rid of Harry before killing Robert and after he has a gotten Sansa with child. The possible baby's gender doesn't really matter that much. Remember that in the Vale they have had both female ladies ( Rhea Royce, Anya Waynwood) and at least one Lady Paramount (Jeyne Arryn). It might be even better if the baby is a girl actually, it will make him seem to Sansa even more necessary as a protector. On Sansa's fertility, well, true enough, we cannot normally predict a woman's fertility, especially a maid's. However, they are both very young and attracted to each other, so we can expect plenty of...action. Also, Harry seems to have no trouble at all fathering children, and if Sansa inherited Catelyn's fertlity along with her other features, she will be pregnant very soon. About the curse of Harrenhal, if there is one person in Westeros that believes less in curses and supestitions in general than Petyr Baelish, I am willing to sing the "Bear and the Maiden fair" riding a unicycle and juggling butcher's knives. In a bright pink tutu. In the middle of the Niagara Falls.
  14. With Edmure and his child in captivity and high risk of death,since Westerosi inheritance laws favors males, with Catelyn and her sons being dead (or considered dead) the next in line would be Lysa and Robert. Riverrun and the Riverlands have been stripped from the Tullys, of course, but Riverrun's Freys have the ill luck of being associated with the two most hated and soon-to-collapse familes in Westeros, so they won't keep it for long. So, when Robert dies , the only grandchild of Hoster Tully known to be alive will be Sansa. With the Lannisters fallen from power, the Freys universally despised and Littlefinger being... well, Littlefinger, a new sovereign, wishing to be rid of them all, might consider her as a valid alternative for the titles. Marrying her would give Littlefinger's hold on the Riverlands an air of legitimacy (think of Lancel and Gatehouse Ami as a parallel).
  15. Well, Harry doesn't need to become Lord of the Vale. He can marry Sansa, impregnate her and then die in the glorious struggle of getting back her birthright (again, with a little help from Littlefinger), while Robert is still alive. Sansa will be a helpless widow with a baby in arms (and a very nice claim to the North and the Riverlands, should anything happen to Edmure and his child), so who would be a better husband and keep her and her child safe than her old and true friend Petyr Baelish? Then, Sweetrobin finally dies, Sansa becomes regent of her child, Petyr becomes again lord Protector and and the Vale has a déjà vu.