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  1. When it was said they were not 10 leagues from Harrenhal, what direction were they talking about? If Lyanna was heading from Winterfel to Riverrun, that trajectory would be the same as Baelish heading from Riverrun to the Vale. Also, this part is interesting and it lines up with what @Graydon Hicks said. If she was much further south than the ride to Riverrun would require, why was she so far south? Did she secretly plan to escape with Rhaegar from this point? It's possible. Some think she was hoping to avoid Robert during this time and knowing everyone would be at Brandon and Cat's wedding, she fled with Rhaegar south. Maybe for more than just love. Maybe she and Rhaegar had already done more than eyeball one another. Also, roads in Westeros would be few. Not many would be required and important people would hold to the well-traveled roads for precaution. No doubt Lyanna took the King's road. Baelish would have taken River road and both these roads intersect north of the Godseye. Guess what's also north of the Godseye? Harrenhal.
  2. You said it yourself. He was sent to ward for the Tully family to build favor for his house. That meant he made connections. This has nothing to do with his father and everything to do with him. Being ward of house Tully from 8 to 15 is 7 years of establishing connections and knowing how the main houses get on. That's more than enough time. He didn't need to be a star for the abduction story to spread. He just had to know what happened and enough time to twist the narrative in a way favorable to him. He knew Brandon well enough to know that Brandon would rush off to KL in search of his sister. As Hoster Tully said, Brandon was a gallant fool and probably said so more than once preceding his ride to KL. So already there is motive for Baelish to spread this tale. On top of that the trajectory for Lyanna heading to Riverrun and Baelish leaving Riverrun for the Vale means they would cross paths. He could have ensured nobody would know the truth by being the only witness to her departure. By hook or crook. If it's fan fic it's damn good.
  3. Baelish was 15, not a child by Westeros terms. A young man with connections as he was a ward of the house. He was sent away after the duel but not before having sex with Lysa impregnating her. His path was not clear, as he was said to return to the Vale but no indication of when that actually happened. Lyanna was abducted in the Riverlands, 10 leagues from Harrenhal. Where exactly isn't known. However if she was leaving Winterfel for Riverrun, that would have put her path on a direct collision course with Baelish exiting to the Vale. From what we know about Baelish already his schemes have fueled the main events of the series. I've little doubt he has fueled past major events.
  4. It's a common technique when writing a statement of doubt to ramp up the claims from most likely to least likely.
  5. I like to think of the Shadow Lands as the birthplace of R'hlllor (the faith), dragons and one enormous volcano that spit this black oily stone found all over Asshai. We discussed dragons to some extent before and the notion that Dany's bonfire birthed the supposedly petrified dragon eggs says to me anyway that dragons can only be born from extreme heat. That most of the dragons would exist in the Shadow Lands would therefore make sense if the Shadow Lands under all that volcanic rock were very hot. I also think this explains why dragons in Westeros died out in short order. Being held captive and at less than optimal temperatures they failed to procreate over time and became smaller due to their captivity. Westeros was inhospitable to them. The phosphoric waters of Asshai have a mineral component that would likely be volcanic in origin. A volcano can spew toxic materials in great distances over land, air and water. So the land is covered in black stone that drinks light, the waters are toxic, no children exist there and the wildlife is inedible. It sounds exactly like a city after a volcanic eruption. All the stories on the Doom of Valyria point to a supermassive volcano that erupted underwater and swallowed the city in fire.
  6. The Andals never turned to the old gods because the weirnet was destroyed before they got there and the first men held the north from the Andal invasion. That's why the faith in the seven is stronger south and the old gods are stronger north. I believe GRRM has said that magic does exist but it exists at the corners of human civilization. Of course if you follow the series you'd know he was specifically talking about the cutting of the weirnet in the south and the presence of the Andal pantheon in its place. The corners of humanity therefore would be in the north of westeros and far east and south of essos. I believe the Andal pantheon represents human pride whereby god has taken form of a human and all its abstract considerations (human concerns). It's much like the Roman pantheon. Basically symbolic representations of human behavior. This is also likely why the house of Black and White has a statue of the Stranger but no others of the seven. It's because the Stranger symbolizes the death of a man (the one true recognizable act of a god). It's also interesting when you consider the wall in the north. Magic weaved into its creation it represents some tangible magic to those who stand near it. I believe the same is true of any geographical landmark imbued with magic. To put it into our world it would be akin to the idea that the ancient Egyptians held power but the power lined the stones of their work. With that lining destroyed, the magic of their creations would be lost to future generations.
  7. All faces of the Many-Faced God. Its players and peasants all fueling the engine of death.
  8. Narcissism comes in two flavors. If you look at the way aristocratic people think it becomes clear. First way is an obvious sense of superiority in their customs and identity that they exude in the presence of those they feel are inferior. Cersei is a good first example. Second way is less obvious. The second sort project their superiority through others. The Queen of Thorns is a good example here. The Tyrells attempted to beat the Lannisters through winning over the people. Cersei's fool was to try and win over the faith militant as a direct response to the Tyrell tactic. Both examples are extremely narcissistic but they illustrate it in different ways. My own summation of Cersei is that she was a product of her house and her exposure to the world. The prophecy did its part in shaping her and I suspect one of the reasons she bed Jamie was to avoid the prophecy not realizing she played right into it. Really everything she's done to avoid the prophecy has only progressed it. It's a cautionary tale of prophecies and how the world shapes a person.
  9. A 15 year old in Westeros isn't a boy. Baelish was old enough to get drunk and make sexual advances on the Tully girls. He was also a Tully ward and had the same connections Catelyn and Lysa had. Brandon was 20 and was of course stronger than Baelish but also more skilled. After the duel Baelish was at Riverrun for 2 weeks recovering and sleeping with Lysa (whom he thought was Cat). He was sent away after 2 weeks which would have been sometime in 282. For comparison the tourney was 281 and Lyanna's disappearance 282. She disappeared 10 leagues (30 miles) from Harrenhal which could have put that chance encounter right in the path of Baelish leaving Riverrun. Considering how few roads there are, I think the encounter was extremely likely. Let's assume Baelish witnessed it, hiding. What would Baelish have gained by telling the truth? All he would have to do is start the rumor that she was abducted and Brandon would run right off to find her. Judging what we know about Baelish he is very knowledgeable about all the houses in Westeros as well as the movers and shakers within those houses. Also a disappearance isn't immediately known. People disappear sometimes weeks before their missing persons report is filed.That's long enough for a rumor to be spread. Varys isn't on the radar for me. Too dissociated and would have been at KL the whole time anyway.
  10. I'm not entirely sure, either. That's one of the reasons I think she's going to fail. No better no worse than the existing rulers. Which is to say by the time the Others show up most of humanity should be dead.
  11. To understand what Kissed by Fire means to the people north of the wall you just have to look at them. Most are blood of the first men. Dark haired people of the grassy plains of Essos if the Maesters are to be believed. Closer to what Dothraki look like. Most like blonde hair came with the Andals (northern Essos) and was never associated to people far north in Westeros. Red hair likely predates the presence of the Andals. If I had to guess it would be mutation that stuck with them over the thousands of years. Kinda like how some Africans have red or reddish brown hair with no link to blond hair. Summarizing it I don't think Kissed by Fire includes blondes.
  12. @Lucius Lovejoy It's tough to say how it affects the end of the story. Even if it were true there's no current threads in the fabric to suggest the great Other isn't an aspect of the Many-Faced God or that the White Walker army is immortal. Though if either are true then the great Other has profaned the will of the Many-Faced God by evading death. Then it raises (pun intended) other questions such as: are the White Walkers conscious? When wights are brought back to life are they merely puppets or also conscious? If we can assume both are true then the great Other is diametrically opposed to the Many-Faced God. The story suggests to me the forms the White Walkers take are temporal. Like formed of the elements and then when slain, returned to someplace in the north. Also how they traverse great distances easily would require something like this. If true, then Sam never killed the White Walker. He just slew its physical form and it returned far north.
  13. Jaqen H'ghar made mention in Harrenhal about the Red God being owed a debt when Arya released him and the other two from their prison. It's understood that this debt was owed to R'hllor because the men would have died by fire had they not escaped. Though it's understood that Faceless men worship the Many-Faced God so this is interesting to me and I think I understand it now. I mention this in the breath of what a Faceless Man represents: The assassin's masquerade. A dance is conducted with the sole purpose of taking a life. It may be by fire, by frost, by love, etc. In the house of Black and White there are 30 statues of Gods taken to be the many faces of the one true God of Death. The name of the house is a clue to what the house stands for. The duality of light and dark brings contrast to the shape of things, the world and with that many impersonations. Impersonations excite and draw in viewers. In this sense the Gods are but hand puppets on a wall operated by the same creator. Could this be? That R'hllor and the great Other are the latest hand puppets of the Many-Faced God to bring death to Westeros? I'm also reminded of the Warlocks of Qarth. Specifically their illusions. What if the magic of Westeros was all an illusion generated by the Many-Faced God and servants? From Dragons to White Walkers? It does make me wonder which of the 30 other faces does R'hllor pretend to be opposing? As well as the Gods specifically playing Varys, Dany, Baelish and all the other serious movers that have killed many? I've mentioned before about the external influences that shape man and I think we've reached a literal point here. Thoughts? I'm sure it's probably been asked before and I don't think GRRM would ever explore this in much depth but in the back of his mind, maybe?
  14. Endorphin is released during violence and sex. Endorphin dulls the symptoms associated to headaches. Not that this would be the only reward but it's an clear frontrunner. Couple that with the Lannister's blessing (money, fortunes, namesake, victims, etc) and it becomes pretty clear why Gregor is who he is.
  15. You're reasoning with a functioning brain (no perpetual headaches requiring painkillers). Gregor at the very least has perpetual migraines due to his giganticism. With some speculation that there is more going on in his head like a tumor or swelling. On top of that his conditioning since childhood to deal with headaches has been to smash people to death. So why would a young Gregor already violent be less violent an adult? It makes little sense.