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  1. It may be that the Dornish army was meant to be on board the fleet which Euron attacked - that he attacked the ships on their way back to King's Landing, not on their way to Dorne. But this was not something which was highlighted (or even stated, I think), so it was very poor story-telling anyway.
  2. That is one tactic she could attempt. My main point is that it makes zero sense that she makes no attempt at all (as far as we as viewers are informed, at least) to follow up the huge victory over the Lannister/Tarly forces. She just decides that she has to wait for the outcome of the absurd wight hunt - even if there is no reason why she cannot continue military operations in parallell with this expedition. Her original plan was to lay siege to King's Landing, and after her battlefield win, she certainly has the opportunity to do just that. It is fine that she wants to minimize civilian casualties (that it is necessarily so much better for the civilians that KL is besieged instead of stormed, does not, however, seem that obvious to me, but let that be as it may). But if she is so concerned about the civilian population (or her own army, for that matter), why on earth does she, during the battle in episode 4, choose to focus her dragon's firepower ON THE FOOD SUPPLIES??? She is about to capture those precious, precious food supplies, and she chooses TO BURN THEM? What was the point of that? (If I miss something here, by all means enlighten me). After having captured those food supplies, she could bring them with her to the walls of KL, offering to feed the city if it capitulates. That would not be an ideal situation for a small Lannister force to be in. But instead she chooses to burn the supplies - or that is what the incredibly lazy or inept writers of this show have her do. I don't understand how they manage to write a story which makes so little sense in so many different ways. It is beyond me.
  3. Forgive me for writing this, but I just have to get it out. I just can't get over how incredibly stupid (on a multitude of levels) the whole wight hunt/armistice "negotiations" plotlines were. Just to take one point. After Daenerys' crushing victory over the Lannister/Tarly forces close to King's Landing (which ends with the remaining Lannister/Tarly forces actually pledging to fight for her), Cersei is in a desperate military situation - she and Jaime themselves seem to aknowledge as much. This is the moment for Daenerys to deliver the final blow and attack KL. It's the only thing that makes sense - militarily, politically, even from a humanitarian perspective (try to end the war with Cersei now instead of having it drag on and on and on). And it would certainly make sense from the perspective of becoming able to deal more efficiently with the threat from beyond the wall - after delivering the final blow to Cersei, Dany and Jon could focus on that threat without having to worry about being stabbed in the back, as they, entireley precictable, will have to worry about now. But instead of at least TRYING to take KL, those characters who we are supposed to root for instead act in almost the dumbest and most incompetent manner which it is possible to imagine - namely, they apparently cease fighting the Lannisters while Jon and his merry company go on the wight hunt. Now, even if I buy the premise that this hunt makes any sense in itself (it does not), WHY NOT AT LEAST TRY TO TAKE, OR AT LEAST BESIEGE, KINGS'S LANDING WHILE THE HUNT IS CARRIED OUT (as a matter of fact, the whole wight hunt should have taken months to conduct), making Cersei's situation even more desperate. Why give her (without getting anything in return) the time to recuperate and plot a military comeback? Why? Why? Why? The execution of the whole wight hunt plotline is, of course, as stupid as it gets. It is so stupid on so may levels - the whole idea of it, that it is the King in the North himself which goes on the hunt, Gendry's run, the conveniently placed island, Dany's rescue operation on her Boeing Dragons, the Benjen deux ex machina twist, that they don't wear any hats (I wish I could take D and D out trekking in the mountains on a cold winter day here in Norway, and they would have to be without hats) etc, etc etc. As a matter of fact, the whole plot is so stupid that it is hard not to assume that D and D has taken note of some of the criticism of earlier seasons, and actually decided to caricature their own show (this is not the case, of course, they probably still take their own story super-seriously or something). So I just have to conclude, as many have done in other threads, that all the main characters are so stupid and incompetent that the Night's King is the only one which it makes any sense to root for at this point.
  4. Forgive me for writing this, but I just have to get it out. I just can't get over how incredibly stupid (on a multitude of levels) the whole wight hunt/armistice "negotiations" plotlines were. Just to take one point. After Daenerys' crushing victory over the Lannister/Tarly forces close to King's Landing (which ends with the remaining Lannister/Tarly forces actually pledging to fight for her), Cersei is in a desperate military situation - she and Jaime themselves seem to aknowledge as much. This is the moment for Daenerys to deliver the final blow and attack KL. It's the only thing that makes sense - militarily, politically, even from a humanitarian perspective (try to end the war with Cersei now instead of having it drag on and on and on). And it would certainly make sense from the perspective of becoming able to deal more efficiently with the threat from beyond the wall - after delivering the final blow to Cersei, Dany and Jon could focus on that threat without having to worry about being stabbed in the back, as they, entireley precictable, will have to worry about now. But instead of at least TRYING to take KL, those characters who we are supposed to root for instead act in almost the dumbest and most incompetent manner which it is possible to imagine - namely, they apparently cease fighting the Lannisters while Jon and his merry company go on the wight hunt. Now, even if I buy the premise that this hunt makes any sense in itself (it does not), WHY NOT AT LEAST TRY TO TAKE, OR AT LEAST BESIEGE, KINGS'S LANDING WHILE THE HUNT IS CARRIED OUT (as a matter of fact, the whole wight hunt should have taken months to conduct), making Cersei's situation even more desperate. Why give her (without getting anything in return) the time to recuperate and plot a military comeback? Why? Why? Why? The execution of the whole wight hunt plotline is, of course, as stupid as it gets. It is so stupid on so may levels - the whole idea of it, that it is the King in the North himself which goes on the hunt, Gendry's run, the conveniently placed island, Dany's rescue operation on her Boeing Dragons, the Benjen deux ex machina twist, that they don't wear any hats (I wish I could take D and D out trekking in the mountains on a cold winter day here in Norway, and they would have to be without hats) etc, etc etc. As a matter of fact, the whole plot is so stupid that it is hard not to assume that D and D has taken note of some of the criticism of earlier seasons, and actually decided to caricature their own show (this is not the case, of course, they probably still take their own story super-seriously or something). So I just have to conclude, as many have done in other threads, that all the main characters are so stupid and incompetent that the Night's King is the only one which it makes any sense to root for at this point.
  5. So forgive me for writing something that many others have surely commented on, but I just have to get it out. I just can't get over how incredibly stupid (on a multitude of levels) the whole wight hunt/armistice "negotiations" plotlines were. Just to take one point. After Daenerys' crushing victory over the Lannister/Tarly forces close to King's Landing (which ends with the remaining Lannister/Tarly forces actually pledging to fight for her), Cersei is in a desperate military situation - she and Jaime themselves seem to aknowledge as much. This is the moment for Daenerys to deliver the final blow and attack KL. It's the only thing that makes sense - militarily, politically, even from a humanitarian perspective (try to end the war with Cersei now instead of having it drag on and on and on). And it would certainly make sense from the perspective of becoming able to deal more efficiently with the threat from beyond the wall - after delivering the final blow to Cersei, Dany and Jon could focus on that threat without having to worry about being stabbed in the back, as they, entireley precictable, will have to worry about now. But instead of at least TRYING to take KL, those characters who we are supposed to root for instead act in almost the dumbest and most incompetent manner which it is possible to imagine - namely, they apparently cease fighting the Lannisters while Jon and his merry company go on the wight hunt. Now, even if I buy the premise that this hunt makes any sense in itself (it does not), WHY NOT AT LEAST TRY TO TAKE, OR AT LEAST BESIEGE, KINGS'S LANDING WHILE THE HUNT IS CARRIED OUT (as a matter of fact, the whole wight hunt should have taken months to conduct), making Cersei's situation even more desperate. Why give her (without getting anything in return) the time to recuperate and plot a military comeback? Why? Why? Why? The execution of the whole wight hunt plotline is, of course, as stupid as it gets. It is so stupid on so may levels - the whole idea of it, that it is the King in the North himself which goes on the hunt, Gendry's run, the conveniently placed island, Dany's rescue operation on her Boeing Dragons, the Benjen deux ex machina twist, that they don't wear any hats (I wish I could take D and D out trekking in the mountains on a cold winter day here in Norway, and they would have to be without hats) etc, etc etc. As a matter of fact, the whole plot is so stupid that it is hard not to assume that D and D has taken note of some of the criticism of earlier seasons, and actually decided to caricature their own show (this is not the case, of course, they probably still take their own story super-seriously or something). So I just have to conclude, as many have done in other threads, that all the main characters are so stupid and incompetent that the Night's King is the only one which it makes any sense to root for at this point.
  6. So I guess it is just a matter of time before we have Daenerys and Yara in bed together, with Theon forced to listen to his sister "fucking the tits off" the Dragon Queen. Perhaps Tyrion will provide some cock jokes. With the quality of writing on this show, this scene is actually a real possibility.
  7. Ah, the books... One of mye greatest hopes for my little children's future is that when they become adults, they wille be living in a world where "The Song of Ice and Fire" is a completed book series
  8. I guess so. And again, that is a complete butchering of "The North Remembers" theme of the books.
  9. It is actually unbelievable, when you think about it, that the showrunners had the magnificent "The North Remembers" theme of book 5 at their disposal - and they get ABSOLUTELY NOTHING OUT OF IT! Nothing! They actually dump that theme altogether, and instead goes for "The North Forgot" theme, along with the "How the Vale conquered the North" theme. How is it possible to get something so awful out of such great source material? Can anyone explain this to me?? So what happens now? Littlefinger/the Vale forces (which I guess are loyal to him now, lol) have now conquered the North, so I guess Littlefinger will be calling the shots? Will he order Jon executed for desertion, perhaps? Then marry Sansa, and have his way with her, before the weirwood tree? Lots of possibilities, I guess. And what about Manderly? Will he show up after the battle? Late Lord too-fat-to-sit-a-horse? To think about what could have been, if D&D had at all grasped what fabulous souce material they had at their disposal. But this is what we got, I guess we just have to make our peace with that.