The reason why Jon never felt the fourth knife could be because he had already warged into Ghost, that's how I see it.
As for the stabbings that connected, I read a passage in Dunk & Egg that mentions the dangers about a knife between the shoulder blades.
Did he die? I don't know. Will he come back? He has to. I mean, he's one of the story's main pieces, a very well build and developed character that still has a big part to play. Martin likes (a bit too much lol) killing his characters off but I just think he wouldn't have had spent so much time building Jon's arch to leave it unfinished like that. Jon, still has to learn about his parents to say the least.
I don't have it marked on the book but, if I'm not mistaken, it happened in a dialogue Sansa had with her mother in book 1. She told Cat that she hated Arya and that she might be a bastard too because she looks very much alike Jon and not like her or Robb. Then Cat points to her that Arya has got Lyanna's looks.
The way I see it is that the KG is sworn to obey the king and we know from Ned that those were the most loyal men, so, would they take orders from Rhaegar if those orders were against the ones they got from the king?
I'm a bit dumb when it comes to the timeline of events so pardon me but the king was already dead when Lyanna gave birth, right? How could Rhaegar and the 3 KG in the ToJ know that?
I'm on the R+L=J side but I don't understand how Jon'd be king (I get the parentage part). He could, sure, if he fought for it like Dany's trying to do but would he want to be king?
I mean, he can't just pop up in KL saying that he's Rhaegar's kid and take the throne.
Now that left me 2 questions:
1. Stark honor. Would lord Rickard take his word back?
2. On challenging Robert. Maybe Rhaegar thought it through and considered that he could die, which would make the prophecy impossible to happen.
I agree but I still think Jon has his share on the tittle. This is how I see his connection to the plot: Jon being reborn as AA will command the NW (Lightbringer) during the fight against The Others. His parentage is one of the key points on AA's prophecy.
Maybe Rhaegar told Lyanna to name the kid after Jon Connington if it was a boy. Ned could've honored Aryn when he named Arya.
Maybe because she was already promised to Robert?
And I don't think Rhaegar was looking for a woman that fitted in the ice part of the prophecy either, it just happened that he met Lyanna and they fell in love with each other.
I fear the same. There are too many 'mini plots' to finish.
As for the meaning of the song being Jon/Dany I really don't like it, although that's what I think it'll turn out to be. I much prefer the idea of Jon alone being it once he has both fire and ice on his blood.
I'd like to see Dany marrying Aegon (I hope he is a Blackfyre) if she's to marry someone.
I don't believe on the rape/kidnap story either. I picture Lyanna being as bad@ss as Arya and not like Sansa. If she wasn't willing to go with Rhaegar he'd have gotten some bruises to say the least.
One thing that I don't understand is why Jon would be king. I get the parenting side but the throne is with the Baratheons now (or Lannisters bastards) so it belongs to Stannis. It was Jon's but only before Robert sat his fatty bum there.
There was something about that on Theon's released chapter, wasn't it? Asha told Stannis to not kill Theon but to offer him to the Old Gods, the way the Starks would've done/liked it.
I also read a theory here a while ago when this chapter came out that there was some sort of bronze dagger involved? I think I have it on my notes, I'll look for it.
Last time I logged in, this topic was on a v.40-ish and now it's almost 4 times that. Is there that much to be discussed yet? (well, I guess there is). Anyway, this is one of my favourites .
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He had to. I'm not diminishing Ned's love for Lyanna in any way but, could you imagine how "protective" of Jon Cat would be if she knew the truth? The lady despised him once she saw him as a proof of Ned's betrayal and that was as important to save his life as what Ned did in the Tower of Joy. I mean, he's royal blood (bastard or not) so there would be many interested on killing the kid.
I think Ned this for love too but, mostly, to protect Jon.
As far as we know, Jeyne isn't pregnant so what's her importance for the story? She sort of betrayed Robb (I'm still not sure if she was really innocent or if she knew what her mom was doing to her). I mean, what the heck is she going to do that will be so important? Does she have the letter that will legitimaze Jon? Does she have some political information that could change all? Or will it be just a random meeting?
And I agree with Karsa, I think LS will probably kill the girl.
PS: Howland Reed is just wishful thinking. I'd love to see a pov from him but there'll be no connection with this prologue...