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  1. No. It's that Littlefinger does not have the means to hold the castle and, mainly, the Riverlands which his nominal position would demand him to do had he assumed his duties as the overlord and what's more, he does not believe that it's worth the trouble.
  2. Pretty sure the equivalent of "public opinion" in-universe is not going to see it that way.
  3. I agree that neither kidnapping (out of love/lust) or eloping really make sense with what we know of the characters involved. My own alternative theory is presented below: In short, Lyanna was at the wrong place at the wrong time, doing something that she wasn’t supposed to do ("willful and wild"). Accidentally, she saw / overheard Rhaegar & co plotting against Aerys and therefore they couldn’t just let her go with only her promise that she wouldn’t tell. The options would be kill her or take her along, so they did the later ("true knights" as they were). Then, Lyanna’s and Rhaegar’s romance developed on the road. It is also mirroring, in a twisted way, Tyrion's kidnapping by Catelyn. ETA: The problem I see with this theory that's presented here, is the supposed reasoning behind the actions: as a response to the KotLT incident. It does not work for me at all. First, because we don't have any indication whatsoever -in the main series or the world book- that Arys remained fixated all this time (that's about an entire year) in the identity of said person. Second, because, it seems like an idiotic counter-plot that is suspect to generate -quite predictably at that- equaly grave consequences as those that it was supposedly meant to prevent in the first place. As it ("it" referring to the "kidnapping" and all the rest that it instigated) actually eventually did, whatever it was. So to me, there is the need for some element that would make the thing a forced move that *had* to be taken as a "lesser bad" choice and not something plotted and thought about.
  4. That's actually infantilization, the opposite of adult. And it's hardly useful to anyone -especially to Sansa- as Sansa's ows story showcases, as well as the various exambles of successful ladies in the books imply.
  5. Oh, I would very much like to debate it, if I could - it's just that my free time ends in about a quarter and I don't know when I'll be here again...
  6. Just wanted to say that I absolutely disagree with you, especially on the bolded, but I'm sorry to say I won't be able to debate about it. Just putting it here for your consideration, I very much doubt that an answer of the line "it's not your place to question your lord father's thinking" is doing anything remotely positive to prepare Sansa for an adult life as a highborn lady. As for Arya's internalized feeling of failure at being a lady, it doesn't even need discussion, IMO. I'm not saying that the septa did these things on purpose, just that she was a very bad teacher.
  7. Mordane was a bad teacher, period. We do not need to compare her to modern teachers, just to maester Luwin teaching Bran (especially in how hard he tried to persuade him not to climb) should be enough. She did not like her job and wasn't too dutiful at it either, that much is evident: she indulged in her cups, leaving little Sansa unattended in the feast at KL (when Sandor ended up escorting her back to the castle)... that's quite telling, IMO. While I acknowledge how harmful her influence was for both girls, I don't really blame her too much either; who knows under which circumstances she ended up being a septa... most likely it wasn't her choice. Equally, the North was not, most likely, her choice nor the teaching duties. Maybe she hated all of it but had no say about it. That might also explain her stance towards the girls: liking the one whose teaching does not necessitate much or any effort from her side while loathing the "difficult" child, the one that the teacher needs to put some thinking into how to catch their attention and put the lesson through successfully. It might also explain her affection for her wine. But all of this is basically speculation and extrapolation, as we don't have enough information for a final judgement. All in all, I don't think she was a bad person or that she acted as she did out of malice, more that she was mostly indifferent and applying the method of 'minimal effort' for her own convinience, ending up causing harm out of neglect.
  8. That's because secondary charactes' role is to serve the arc of the mains they're tagged along. If the main character needs to experience rejection in order to move along her arc, then that's what he will do. But what you'll get to read about is how she feels about it, so brace yourself in either case, you'll have to endure her POV for another couple of books.
  9. He doesn't. But that's what the "alpha Gendry" theory implies (to which I very, very, very strongly disagree). (I'd have some more to add to the topic, but I'll be mostly off for the next month, so maybe in another thread...)
  10. Oh sorry. Just meant to say that I'm just tired and can' t carry on the discussion. I had started to write something that required some effort, you see, "whatever" simply meant that I'm dropping it. Goodnight.
  11. Whatever. Goodnight.
  12. Of course. The primary character is but a tool so that the secondary will shine. Suit yourself.
  13. Because Arya is who she is, and these things matter to her. And no, not so long as it isn't Gendry. The 'alpha' parallel in the human girl has a very unpleasent symbolism for me in all cases. That's the reason I hope the narrative of her sexulaity does not take that route. But the idea that this 'alpha' *must* for some reason, be Gendry and therefore both text and speculation be shoehorned in a way that a potential future romance fulfils those norms, and in order to do that prioritize the secondary character and downplay the primary, sorry, that's something that irks me. A lot.
  14. I am not contesting that she likes it, I am contesting that his strength and ability to cause harm are enough to get him on top if the scenario of a potential relationship follows the Atalanta approach.
  15. Yea, so that he can put the little lady in her place and remind her that she's a woman. Look, I don't think this is happening. If he takes the challenge approach, then he falls under the "small grey cousin" category. His chance is to appeal to the girl, as a boy, not to the wolf, as an "alpha". She's not going to spare him if he seriously means to use his strength to subjugate her. That would be entirely off Arya's characterization, and for what? But, (since I am not writing these books) if it does happen like that, I personally find it distasteful. Even if it comes to pass, I don't have to like everything the author serves me, after all.