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  1. Arya will become Queen

    I'm sorry you feel unwelcome but if you make a statement like Arya hid needle under the steps "in case she has the desire to get back to her revenge" you are going to get several responses opposing that statement because it is factually incorrect. This is the passage from the books describing why Arya kept Needle: "At the water ... All but Needle. She stood on the end of the dock, pale and goosefleshed and shivering in the fog. In her hand, Needle seemed to whisper to her. Stick them with the pointy end, it said, and, don’t tell Sansa! Mikken’s mark was on the blade. It’s just a sword. If she needed a sword, there were a hundred under the temple. Needle was too small to be a proper sword, it was hardly more than a toy. She’d been a stupid little girl when Jon had it made for her. “It’s just a sword,” she said, aloud this time . . . . . . but it wasn’t. Needle was Robb and Bran and Rickon, her mother and her father, even Sansa. Needle was Winterfell’s grey walls, and the laughter of its people. Needle was the summer snows, Old Nan’s stories, the heart tree with its red leaves and scary face, the warm earthy smell of the glass gardens, the sound of the north wind rattling the shutters of her room. Needle was Jon Snow’s smile. He used to mess my hair and call me “little sister,” she remembered, and suddenly there were tears in her eyes. Polliver had stolen the sword from her when the Mountain’s men took her captive, but when she and the Hound walked into the inn at the crossroads, there it was. The gods wanted me to have it. Not the Seven, nor Him of Many Faces, but her father’s gods, the gods of the north. The Many-Faced God can have the rest, she thought, but he can’t have this. Needle to Arya is NOT about revenge, it represents her identity as Arya Stark, her home, her parents, her siblings, and above all, it represents Jon's love for her. This is why she does not want to give up Needle. And as long as Arya has Needle she will not lose herself completely and become no one. Arya will find herself again in the end and her pack and Needle will be a big part of her regaining her identity. If your impression of what Needle means to Arya is coming from the show then that is understandable cause the show cannot portray Arya's inner thoughts and people are bound to misinterpret. But in the books, we are clearly told what Arya is thinking and she is not thinking about revenge, or her list, or death when she hides Needle, instead she is thinking of family, of home, and of love.
  2. How do D&D decide what to keep/cut..?

    On the show, characters and their motives keep changing on a whim. Sansa is darkSansa, all cunning and clever one minute, the next minute she's back to being naive and stupid, then again she returns to plotting. It's like she's got split personality of something. Show Jon is told by Sam that Bran is still alive but he still accepts the title of King in the North when offered. What does that make Jon? On the other hand, in the books he believes Bran and Rickon to be dead and if he's ever offered Winterfell again, he will not seem like a complete jerk if he accepts. Yeah destroying the entire Northern storyline was a travesty. Instead of Manderly's epic North Remembers speech we have a frail old serving woman come and tell Sansa the North remembers.
  3. How do D&D decide what to keep/cut..?

    That's the one. But considering that they are talking about Stannis burning Shireen, I think it implies quite explicitly that GRRM intends to have Stannis agree to burn Shireen.
  4. How do D&D decide what to keep/cut..?

    Nope. They specifically state that GRRM told them that Stannis (not Mel or anyone else) would sacrifice Shireen, which pissed off a lot of people (including GRRM's editor IIRC) for giving it away. Now GRRM may write it differently just to get even with these two bozos, who knows.
  5. How do D&D decide what to keep/cut..?

    Exactly! One minute ShowStannis is a self-centered narcissist, the next minute he's a doting father, and the next minute he's burning his only child in order to get good weather. They couldn't decide what to do with Stannis. And that scene with him and Shireen before he burns her was what I call bad storytelling -- dumb & dumber shoehorned that scene in there to get more shock value when he burns her.
  6. How do D&D decide what to keep/cut..?

    Well then you and I have very different interpretations of Stannis in the books and the show. I came to understand and like book Stannis a lot but show Stannis was just a pile of crap to me. The actor who played Stannis (Stephen Dillane, who's a terrific actor btw) also stated in a recent interview that he did not understand the character of Stannis, just like may of us viewers.
  7. How do D&D decide what to keep/cut..?

    I didn't say that Stannis defeat at the hands of the Boltons is not a possibility. It may very well happen. I just couldn't understand why you were so sure that Stannis' story had come to an end and that he was expendable.
  8. How do D&D decide what to keep/cut..?

    Not according to D&D
  9. How do D&D decide what to keep/cut..?

    I don't know where you are getting this notion that Book Stannis is robotic with no emotions and Show Stannis is the epitome of a caring and loving father. Book Stannis is rigid when it comes to rules but he cares -- he cared about Maester Cressen in his own way, he cares about Shireen, and for crying out loud, we see him care about Renly even. Book Stannis suffers from middle child syndrome and from a sense of being neglected and not been given his dues. I would classify that as a man who cares and feels, not a robot. Show Stannis, on the other hand, is all over the place. His character is so inconsistent. D&D really disliked the character of Stannis or perhaps they didn't understand the character, whichever way they ruined Stannis. Book Stannis is nuanced and complex and eventually the reader (perhaps not all) begins to sympathize and understand the character and his motives. As for the Theon chapter from TWOW, it just goes to show that Stannis cares about his child and her rights. And as I stated earlier, if Stannis has to sacrifice Shireen (as D&D said GRRM told them he would), it's not going to happen anytime soon as Stannis and Shireen are miles apart. And if this has to happen, Stannis will have to win his battle with the Boltons for Selyse and Shireen to join him. And according to you that's not going to happen, right?
  10. How do D&D decide what to keep/cut..?

    Yeah considering they are miles apart in the books, I don't see how Stannis is going to sacrifice Shireen in the near future. If you believe D&D and GRRM did tell them that Stannis would sacrifice Shireen, then it goes to show that Stannis will defeat the Boltons and take back Winterfell and will have Selyse and Shireen come to Winterfell and will end up sacrificing Shireen for another more greater cause than for better weather.
  11. How do D&D decide what to keep/cut..?

    And your claim that Stannis' story has come to an end and that a Stark will take back Winterfell is also not supported with any textual evidence.
  12. How do D&D decide what to keep/cut..?

    Well I don't know how you came to the conclusion that GRRM does not take his editor's advice. And most readers including myself do not read the books as stand alone books, instead we are reading all 7 books as one whole story. So if Stannis story ended as a cliffhanger in ADWD, I know I'll read and enjoy it in the next book. As for exposition on the show, perhaps you are right and for those who have not read the books it becomes a bit hard to keep up with the various names and houses. But still D&D uses more exposition than required and dumbs down to the viewers in several instances. So you are saying we are supposed to believe that the blizzard and all that snow melted because of Shireen's sacrifice? Ok say I agree with that explanation, how do you explain how close the Bolton army was or why such a seasoned commander such as Stannis wouldn't have had scouts scoping the enemy's terrain and army? And really 20 good men!! That's just lazy and bad writing.
  13. How do D&D decide what to keep/cut..?

    That's s very simplistic way of describing Stannis' arc. You think GRRM spent all those words on Stannis story and character development for the sole reason that he could bring Melisandre to Jon? Well, then I must say that I do disagree greatly with your understanding and interpretation of ASOIAF. And no, it's not obvious what Stannis fate is going to be, perhaps he will unite the North and not Jon. Perhaps he'll sacrifice himself in the most noble way not die in some ignoble death.
  14. How do D&D decide what to keep/cut..?

    Yeah people will go to any lengths to justify the ridiculous if they like something and that's what I've seen several show fans do on this forum. I do still the watch the show and will probably watch next season too, but nowadays the only way I can watch the show is like I would watch some mindless summer action movie -- with my brain switched off. It's a shame because I really enjoyed the first 3 seasons and S4 was not bad either.
  15. How do D&D decide what to keep/cut..?

    To me, none of GRRM's main characters have incomplete arcs. They are all well fleshed out and properly developed. Now you can argue that in the next two books, GRRM may not be able to do full justice to the secondary characters considering he has only 2 books left, but we'll just have to wait and see about that. I believe he can and will. D&D's storylines (if you can even call them that) is incomplete, incoherent, illogical, and lacks any form of narrative continuity. As to them finishing in a timely manner, yes of course they will because I don't really think they cared about the story beyond the Red Wedding. I doubt they've even read AFFC and ADWD. In one interview, Benioff didn't even know that Sam was a POV character. Besides, GRRM has only told them how the main characters arcs will end and asked them fill in the blanks, which they know their limited skills are incapable of doing. So of course they want to end the story. And you are right, Arya gets stabbed only twice but the second wound was quite deep and the Waif twisted the knife in Arya's gut, enough to kill a person wouldn't you say? Jamie was half dead when he was brought to Qyburn and Theon was most likely attended by a Maester after his castration as Ramsay wanted him alive.