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  1. But Kellhus would never have left Ishual if it was not for Moe senior. Are we to assume that Ajokli pulled the strings of Moe as well?
  2. Making sweet music out of nonsense... makes me think of Nik Kershaw..."The riddle"
  3. Totally agree that darkness can be many things, what I'm having a problem with determining is if the otherwise super-rational Kellhus are making unrational decisions based on either (a) personal fallacy/darkness or (b) outside influence/Ajokli. Or both.
  4. I don't have a problem with a series of manipulative links in the text from individuals->Kellhus->Ajokli and beyond, but if we combine those links with the narrative of the darkness of the things that are closest to us (Esmi/Kelmo), it just makes it a bit difficult to frame what the series is actually about.
  5. Forgive me if the following text is a bit confused, I'm still processing my thoughts about the varius narratives of the series... It will certainly be interesting to go back and re-interprete previous text in PoN. One of the practical problems I have with doing this is that I feel that there are two competing narratives concerning Kellhus in the series, both of which come to a climax in Golgotterath: (a) one narrative concerning how the fallability of all of us (the darkness of the stuff that is closest to us such as Esmi/Kolmo) might be the downfall of even the mightiest (such as super-Kellhus), and (b) how a calculating infallible schemer, who is capable of domination the materialistic present (Kellhus), might be taken over by an Outside entity (Ajokli). The practical problem is that in order for the first narative to be effective, the target individual (Kellhus) needs to actually be empowered / in control (if he's not in control, there is no darkness that he is acting upon). But in order for the second narrative to be successful, the target individual (Kellhus) needs to be not in control /empowered. If we interpret Kellhus relation to Cnaiur, are we to do that from the Darkness perspective (Dunyain fallability) and/or from the Outside/Ajokli perspective? These two parallell/competing narratives makes it hard for me to interpret the text. Having both of these narratives culminating at the same time during the climax of TUC also contributes (in my mind) to making that part of the book a bit constructed and hard to interpret. I'm not sure if I'm making myself understood here (English is not my native language) and would thus be grateful for any feedback.
  6. Still Maithanet went from nothing to Shriah in no-time and Moe managed to lead the Cish et cet, withouth any godly interference. I don't have a problem with presenting the Dûnyain as punks, but it does not square with the PoN narrative
  7. Well, given that Bakker to a large extent leaves it up to the reader to create their own meaning, I think that a certain degree of letting out of steam is quite natural... I don't think that there is anybody here hating Bakker, but of course there are a number of persons (me included) that are let down by narrative dead-ends in TAE. What aspect of the book/series did you have in mind for a discussion?
  8. I would guess that Bakker, with his view of the ultimate ending so clear to him, did not elaborate that much on the agenda of Kellhus leading up to that very ending... The ending demanded that kellhus, Kelmo, Ajokli and the Consult were present... A believable plotline leading up to this moment does not appear to have been a high priority (in comparison to 50 pages of cannobalism and raping).
  9. But at the same time Kellhus is described as being 'under spiritual duress, while planning to assault the most dread fortress that ever existed'. So there must have been some sort of plan...
  10. I just find the execution of Esmenet as Kellhus' dark - leading to Kelmonas running free - suddenly having Kelmonas in the midst of a Kellhus/Consult showdown to be a narrative that is far from the quality that we have seen in the series so far. I hope that there is something more to this...
  11. With that type of resource lying around, I have a hard time understanding why the Consult did not put these chorae into more effective use before.
  12. And then there is suddenly 8000 chorae lying around... making it possible to wipe out the Ordeal... In just one page...
  13. With so many story-arcs being terminated abruptly and the dreams not being present at all, I wonder if the manuscript was really finished, or if it was just edited together by cutting away loose ends.