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  1. I didn't grow up with the beautiful game. Hockey and golf were the order of the day in my house. My experience is limited but I have watched when the occasion presented itself and It's quite exciting to see. I found this documentary at one time when I was poking around the internet on the subject. It's not Man U but I hope it puts a smile on your face as much as it did mine. . "As I was saying … why is it that when one man builds a wall, the next man immediately needs to know what's on the other side?" – Tyrion to Jon GoT Jon III
  2. And... there are the Faith Militant - the stars and the swords: The red star of the Poor Fellows had its origins in the days of the Andal invasion of Westeros, when zealous warriors carved the seven-pointed star into their chests.[2] - WoIaF.
  3. LOL! I knew what you meant. Although the blood streaked sky or the great red comet doesn't make it any less a sign or portent of something.
  4. I do take your point that later books will answer or at least illuminate previous information the reader has received. I think a good example of that is the great horn found by Mance which Mel claims is the Horn of Joruman and makes a great display of it's destruction. We get the full description of the horn in SoS: However, it isn't until DwD that we are told more about "Joramun's horn" in comparison to another great horn of similar description: Val points out that there is no safe way to grasp it. In other words, no mortal man shall sound it and live; which answers Jon's question about why Mance never sounded the horn. Of course Ygritte is telling the truth when she says that Mance never found the Horn of Winter; but Mance was prepared to let the Night's Watch believe that he did. It's likely Melisandre would know a dragon binding horn when she saw one as well and is also prepared to let her audience think it is something that it is not. Fire will not destroy it. She deploys powders from her bag of tricks to make an impression: Somewhat off topic; but an example of how the reader is introduced to something in an earlier book but given additional or contradictory information later.
  5. Or change the prophecy to suit their needs: In the first, we get the prophecy as it is written down: "when the stars bleed". That's not the same as: "The bleeding star..."
  6. Yes, it's clear from the text that it's Alys and I agree it's sometimes useful to revisit visions and dreams from time to time for any other insights. I was puzzled that Melisandre would make an identification when she has never seen Arya. However, Jon makes it clear that Alys looks a bit like Arya, who looks a bit like Jon. So Melisandre's identification makes some sense. The notion that the old gods can influence Mel's visions is important because we are given to think that she can only recieve 'instruction' from R'Hllor. In this same vision, the old god's make their presence known: So to your question of who is sending the visions and why; eyes weeping blood is a giveaway, as well as 'she crumbled and blew away'. We never question that Ned's dreams are sent by the old gods but the idea that the old gods can affect or interfere with Melisandre's visions is quite interesting.
  7. No, not at all. What is connection between Dany and Stannis? Stannis casts no shadow (in the night) and Dany will not look behind at her own shadow... the darkness that follows in her wake.
  8. Manchester United?
  9. LOL! So much for Mel's ability to see the truth in men's hearts or the usefulness of her truth powders.
  10. Me too. Jon sees both Stannis and Melisandre's shadows together on the Wall and I wonder if this foreshadows the fall of Wall or at least the wards. The whole business of Stannis taking up residence in the Night Fort seems ominous. A blue-eyed king with a red sword casting no shadow could mean that the vision takes place at night when wights are up and about. At the moment, Stannis' is all glamor. I suppose it's entirely possible that Mel will raise him as a fire wight at some point. I'm not so sure about the business that drawing Stannis' shadow drains him of his shadow. I think Mel is drawing too much of his blood for the purposes of her sorcery and casting a shadow requires a high price. I suppose the question is why it's significant to show Dany a vision of Stannis.
  11. First Lesson: A Dance with Dragons - Melisandre Melisandre paid the naked steel no mind. If the wildling had meant her harm, she would have seen it in her flames. Danger to her own person was the first thing she had learned to see, back when she was still half a child, a slave girl bound for life to the great red temple. It was still the first thing she looked for whenever she gazed into a fire. "It is their eyes that should concern you, not their knives," she warned him. A Game of Thrones - Jon II "I think so," Arya said. "First lesson," Jon said. "Stick them with the pointy end."
  12. That was always my thinking as well. Except that he does cast a shadow and gigantic one on the Wall beside Mel. There are some interesting quotes about casting a shadow in the text: Some shadows have consequence according to the one who casts them and whether they are long or short, weak or dark. The grave casts long shadows and so does Sandor Clegane. Mel and Stannis cast a gigantic shadow on the Wall. Tyrion casts the shadow of king onto Winterfell itself. Melisandre asks Jon to look behind and see his own shadow; while Dany will not look back at her own shadow in the House of Undying... at the darkness cast behind her. There is also the notion of being touched by the shadow: Dany, who is told by Quaithe of the Shadow; that she must pass beneath the shadow to touch the light. So I think there is probably more to this than Mel draining Stannis' life force.
  13. Stannis claims that Melisandre can see more than one future:
  14. Possibly, although Stannis casts a shadow on the Wall:
  15. My goodness! Will you still be around in ten to twenty years? You can search for words and phrases here: This doesn't seem to work well with Firefox but Internet Explorer is OK. "Grey as ash" in various combinations shows up in the context of war throughout the text.