LynnS

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  1. I'm curious to know if anyone thinks that some of Old Nan's stories are being played out, in an altered form by the Stark kids
  2. I think what Patchface is actually talking about is the fire for blood equation. Whether that is blue, green or red fire. Specifically, I think he is talking about the burning heart or the hot blood that defines life and how that is transformed after death. In the case of the White Walkers, their blood is blue and so is the flame in their eyes. With Melisandre, her blood is black although her eyes are red flame. With wights, the flame is blue but their blood is black and coagulated. I.E. their hands are black where the blood has pooled. The green flame is still a mystery. The only reference we have for it is Shaggy Dog: It may have something to do with the greenwood or green men.
  3. Great! So do I.
  4. My first impression was that Qyburn named his creature Robert Strong in homage to Lucamore Strong, a member of the Kingsguard who had 16 bastards (same as Maggy the Frog's prediction for Robert B). He was gelded and sent to the Night's Watch. Robert Baratheon is often referred to as strong. I don't think these references were lost on Cersei.
  5. Arya describes Jaqen H'gar as a grumkin: This is a take on the monkey's paw story where on the third wish 'nobody' is at the door. The White Walkers are also described as faceless: Coldhands also fits the definition of a faceless man, since he never shows his face or gives his name. He makes Sam swear three times to silence for the 'life' Sam owes him. The Stranger is also a faceless man and one that fits the description of the White Walkers: Snarks and grumkins are almost always mentioned together. Perhaps Arya is a Snark now.
  6. The Pink Letter list of demands: Whoever sent the letter doesn't know that Theon is with Stannis. If the letter is from Mance, he's not bound to Melisandre's ruby anymore. I doubt that Mance is done with the 'bloody fools'. There is another possibility. The King Beyond the Wall and the Lord of Winterfell have joined forces to defeat Jon Snow. This could be a another case of infiltrating the enemy's forces by joining them, not unlike Jon joining the Wildlings after killing the Halfhand. "I want my Reek" sounds too much like Ramsey to ignore. It's Mance who calls Jon 'bastard' and Melisandre 'the red witch'. Ramsey thinks he will be getting a wildling army courtesy of Mance; but Mance will join forces with Stannis and crush Ramsey when the Wildlings arrive to find Mance miraculously alive.
  7. Do you have any sense of the meaning of: Under the sea, smoke rises in bubbles, and flames burn green and blue and black," Patchface sang somewhere. "I know, I know, oh, oh, oh." smoke rising in bubbles = drowning smoke - air that is breathed into the lungs and exhaled
  8. "A storm of petals, blue as the eyes of death" would certainly support the notion that Starks once ended up as white walkers. Defending the Wall in life and in death?
  9. I think this is what the broken horn is all about. Another binding horn to 'wake the sleepers' or bind his brothers with strange sorcery. The white walkers seem to be another form of shadow binding. Stark shadows encased in ice bodies in other words. Jon wonders if blowing the horn of Joramun will put them back to sleep... except that the horn is broken.
  10. Oh my. That's works for Robert as Jon's father as well. LOL! And the stakes are higher as a king's son, because Robert would likely to do exactly what Stannis is offering to do... give Winterfell to Jon. Then Jon would have both Cately and Cersei after him.
  11. I was quite surprised to read that roses were grown in glass gardens adjacent to the family tomb, to be used for funerary purposes and remembrance. Ned's comment that he brings Lyanna flowers whenever he can, seems to have another meaning in this context. If winter roses are used specifically for this purpose at Winterfell; then I can see how giving Lyanna a crown of pale blue roses would cause an uproar. Unfortunately, this is the only time we are told what the QoLaB's crown looks like. My guess is that it is normally made up of a variety of flowers rather than blue roses. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_of_Immortality I'm not sure about the blue flower growing in a chink of the Wall. Jorah calls it a rose but I don't know. It could represent Shireen: http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/File:House_Florent.PNG A wreath of blue flowers? A circle of star-flowers?
  12. I came across this interesting reference to crowns which seems to fit the symbolism of Ned's dreams: Roses were planted at some tombs and mausoleums, and adjacent grounds might be cultivated as gardens to grow roses for adornment or even produce to sell for cemetery upkeep or administrative costs.[49] In the 19th to the 21st centuries, a profusion of cut and cultivated flowers was still a characteristic of Italian cemeteries to a degree that distinguished them from Anglo-American practice.[50] This difference is one of the Roman Catholic practices criticized by some Protestants, especially in the 19th century, as too "pagan" in origin.[51] I wonder if Rhaegar knew something of Lyanna's fate when he gave her the queen of beauty's laurel. In this context, it doesn't seem a romantic gesture at all.
  13. Geez, I don't know. I didn't even notice the discrepancy until yesterday. Is there a Lord Dustin? This might be a good one for the general forums as I don't have a clue.
  14. Thank you, that was interesting.
  15. I agree also. Melisandre apparently knows that Jon's life is in danger and she can name names. But he doesn't believe her and she doesn't insist and I wonder why.
  16. And of course this makes the most sense. But how do they get their hands on a piece of parchment with all those signatures and seals? The other question is who delivered the letter? Clydas doesn't say. Perhaps it was the Iron Banker?
  17. Yes, there is always two or three degrees of separation between Qyburn and dodgy developments. In the case of these two letters, purportedly both from Ramsey but oddly, with the same signatures and seals; how does this happen if those signatories aren't present during Theon's torture? Potentially they are gathered when Roose summons his supporters to Barrowtown where several copies of the oaths of featly are made and perhaps sent elsewhere. I'm guessing Cersei recieved a copy on parchment with ink that flakes off when it's touched. How convenient. LOL! It's Jon who is holding the whole thing together at the Wall. If he is killed, what is to stop the Wildlings from decimating the Watch and deserting the Wall? Qyburn is flippant about snarks and grumpkins considering that Robert Strong is his creation. I suspect Qyburn knows better, but Cersei of course doesn't. Theon's vision of Roose Bolton at the wedding: Of course Qyburn is a necromancer. I suspect he is a certain man of Varys' acquaintance: And I think the original Reek is one of Qyburn's creations.
  18. It's a direct quote from the text: But yes, why is it Lady Dustin one letter and Lord Dustin on the other?
  19. It's the signatures and seals that are appended that would seem to support Ramsey sending the letter. They were all present for Ramsey's wedding. They seem to have carried their seals with them but what about this letter? The next letter sent to Asha has the same seals and signatures done in maester's ink. The similarities are interesting. It's almost as though several blanks were made with the signature and seals. By whom? Was Lady Dustin or the Ryswells around when Ramsey sent this note to Asha? And here is the gathering place to collect all those seals and signatures:
  20. Qyburn seems to be behind the plot to assassinate Jon:
  21. There are weirwoods without faces and trees that aren't weirwood with faces. They do seem to represent the face of the victim sacrificed. But I wonder about the faceless gods; the greenwood itself. Soldier pine and sentinel tree is highly suggestive. We're told that every tree on the God's Eye was given a face. Does this include soldier pines and sentinel trees? Not everyone can be wed to a weirwood; but can they go into the trees by some magic? This would make some sense if you are cotf or a green man. The sudden appearance of Sam's WW is a bit odd: Yes the snow could have been shaken loose by the horse or the snow could have been formed into a WW. Horses are probably the only undead animal that doesn't go after the living. They are transportation. Was it just parked by the sentinel tree waiting for a rider? What was a lonely white walker doing there? Just waiting for Sam to come by? Waiting to pick off the stragglers? Or was it activated for a purpose and shaped on the spot? What about the WWs in the prologue. Do they qualify as soldier pines? LOL
  22. Isn't it the white walkers who are supposed to come for the babes? The wights will go after any hot blood but the white walkers come for 'the life'. Unless Small Paul has been sent for the babe in the same manner that Othor is sent after Mormont. I'm not sure that Gilly has seen a white walker, although she may have seen a wight, or she thinks the wight is a white walker coming for the babe, according to what she has been told will happen. I'm also not quite sure that Sam isn't the target because of what he carries - the broken horn and dragonglass. Sam is the one who carries it back to the Watch with the knowledge that it kills white walkers. It would make more sense for WW to send wights after Sam since they are immune to dragonglass.
  23. I can go with it. If the WW/Stark link was broken when the Night's King was overthrown and the Stark kings and lords were warded in the crypts; that explains why Catelyn says that the gods of the Starks were the faceless, nameless gods of the greenwood. The WW are faceless and perhaps remain so until they are given a face. She also says that the nameless, faceless gods are the gods of the cotf. I'm more inclined to think that the WW aren't Craster's boys since Patchface tells us that under the sea the crows are white as snow. Perhaps there is a get out clause for the cotf given the way they camouflage themselves in the terrain. The WW employ the same tactic mirroring the environment. We have seen weirwood with carved eyes and mouths. Are they faceless? We are given a glimpse of cotf enthroned or imprisoned in weirwood roots. I don't suppose their trees have faces. Or perhaps all the faces are essentially the same (with some exceptions like the tree at Winterfell).... twins of each other. In the dark, their faces would be black with only blue eyes to show their presence. That fits Catelyn's description of the Stranger; unseen and unknowable.