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  1. Robert was a poor King, largely because he was uninterested in the tasks required of a King. He was lazy and highly, highly negligent as a King. However, he also recognised this about himself and had people around him who he knew would do a decent job of running realm for him. Yes, his council was full of selfish schemers, but at least they were competent selfish schemers who wouldnt let the realm fall to complete ruin. Cersei is just on another level. She is not as smart as she thinks she is and pretty much every single action she takes as queen is to satisfy herself - her desire to gain more power, her desire to destroy her enemies, etc. she doesnt consider consequences or even think about the people she is ruling.Cersei is FAR FAR worse than Robert.
  2. Correction - Arya was a fan of Visenya, the elder of Aegon the Conquerers sisters. Visenya was a great warrior and dragonrider. Arya was NOT a fan of Viserys, Daenerys' halfwitted older brother. Arya would have despised him, had they ever met, and very well may have killed him.
  3. Yes, there are consequences. That doesnt mean Arya will necessarily be killed off by faceless men in books. Thats not where that story is heading anyway imo.
  4. This statement is not an accurate or fair assessment of those who have issues with the writing on the show. You are basically accusing anyone who thinks the show has poor writing (which it does) of misinterpreting the plots presented, which is simply not true. The reason many regard the show as bad writing is because it fails in many of the established criteria for good storytelling. For one thing, in the early seasons the show writing worked off a strong well written source in George RR Martins books. However, since the show ran out of source material, the writers have done things differently. At this point, it is perfectly clear the writers arent even trying to write a natural flowing story anymore and when you stop doing that, pretty much by definition characterisation and consistency will go out the window. The writers now think about what they want to accomplish with certain scenes and the reaction they want from the audience and then fill in the details from there. Is that style of writing prone to creating successful shows and getting mass audiences? Absolutely Is it by any objective measure high quality storytelling? Absolutely not.
  5. What a load of rubbish! Of course an original story can have plot holes. Very few stories don't have plot holes.
  6. I think the show is definitely leaning toward a happy ending. It will be far more 'sweet' than 'bitter'. It's all fan service now and...sadly, even for a story such as GoT, the vast majority of fans DO want the fairytale ending (ie. Jon and Dany rule together as King and Queen, Tyrion's as Hand; Arya, Sansa and Bran all survive and in positions suitable for their arcs, fan faves like Davis, Hound and Bronn to survive). It may not go exactly like that, but I'm expecting similar. I think even Martin's ending (if he ever finishes the books) is going to be more happy than people expect. It isn't going to be a bloodbath where the Others wipe out most of Westeros and most of our favourite characters except a few.
  7. Well said. We even have a precedent for this within the show. During the War of the Five Kings in Season 2, birthright didnt seem to matter too much to Renly's bannermen who supported his claim for the throne over Stannis'. Under Westerosi law, Renly had absolutely zero right to the Iron Throne while Stannis lived, yet he staked his claim anyway and amassed a lot of supporters and a large army while doing so. The Lords will ultimately support who they want to (and the majority of the time, loyalty isnt too much of a factor in that - its more which leader they think will be better for them in terms of their own power, prosperity and status).
  8. You're joking right? 95% of the movies on Netflix are utter garbage. Netflix, Stan and most other streaming services are usually much better for tv series than they are for movies.
  9. I'm curious of your reasoning for #3. To me it seems the opposite. D&D are more likely to have Arya killed by the Faceless Men (or be already dead with the Waif wearing her face) IMO. They would do it for pure shock value regardless of what terrible writing it would be. GRRM however has devoted a huge amount of development into Arya and I think it unlikely that it is all just smoke and mirrors (ie Faceless Men just using her identity) for some death cult. Arya as a character has SO much potential and there is many hints in the book she is headed toward some type of leadership role (no, not a traditional one like Lady or Queen or military commander, but one of her own making, either as some kind of champion of the common people or leading a "pack"). D&D have essentially simplified Arya into a badass killer assassin/warrior and not focused on any of her other traits, but the real Arya in Martin's story is extremely complex and can be taken so many different directions. I think it HIGHLY unlikely he intended to kill Arya off until the final act, if at all.
  10. Yeah, especially the writers. Apparently in this deleted scene, Sansa was going to have Arya killed until she suddenly decided to check with Bran first, then he reveals all about LF and she then targets him instead. Lets just examine that for a minute. If this deleted scene was included, we are expected to believe that Sansa was ready to have her own sister killed, essentially after Arya caught Sansa snooping in her room alone. That was the perfect opportunity for Arya to kill or harm Sansa. Instead, Arya told her about her Faceless Men abilities and the Game of Faces, then handed Sansa a dagger, hilt first, and left the room, making it clear Arya did not wish Sansa any harm. If Sansa had then ordered Arya killed, it would have been MURDER, plain and simple, not self defence. Arya posed no immediate danger to her. While killing off people who are imagined or potential threats may be all well and good for Cersei, that isn't Sansa. She doesn't murder someone because she is suspicious of their motives. Sansa was uncertain about Arya at that point I believe, but had not pegged her as an enemy. It would have taken a LOT more than what Arya actually did on screen for Sansa to decide Arya needed to die. Arya would have needed to commit actual treason or make herself a true enemy (for example, murdering innocent citizens of Winterfell; or killing Sansa's guards), but she hadn't done any of that. Thank God that deleted scene didn't make it in, because if it had, Sansa's character would have been completely ruined and those comparing her to Cersei now might actually have a solid basis to their argument.
  11. This post demonstrates exactly how Dumb & Dumber ruined both Aryas and Sansa's characters this season. The whole writing was just ridiculous. Lets say Arya really did want Sansa dead in episode 6. She had caught Sansa red handed searching her room and they were alone. Arya was armed and is a skilled killer. Sansa is not. If the writers wanted it to look like Arya truly meant Sansa any harm, why didn't they just have Arya kill or at least cut her then and there?? The very idea that Sansa was thinking on the ramparts about having her own sister killed after Arya had just given her a weapon, hilt first, and left the room leaving Sansa very much alive and unharmed makes even less sense. If Sansa had had Arya killed then, it would have been murder, pure and simple, not self defence. Arya was not posing any immediate threat at all. The very fact they even considered having it play out like that with Sansa wanting to kill Arya before deciding to go to Bran as per the cut scene from finale just shows how lost these show writers are and how they do not understand their characters they have spent seven seasons developing.
  12. Yeah, in the show, they will likely just have Varys betray Dany and she find out about it and have him killed by Drogonfire. Varys, whether in show or books, is not Littlefinger. He is not purely out for himself.
  13. lol Arya is not going to blow up Kings Landing, either in books or show. It makes no sense whatsoever for her character. Arya is a killer, no argument there. If you wrong her or those she cares about, look out. But she is NOT Cersei. Arya is a character who the books go to great lengths to demonstrate has a lot of empathy, particularly for the downtrodden and common people. Her destiny in the books may well be some kind of leader or champion of the common folk. There are plenty of hints towards that. Her just blowing up a city and killing thousands upon thousands of the people she feels for and would want to defend makes absolutely no sense.
  14. Yes, plus Battle of the Bastards took place in and in the plains around Winterfell. There is zero reason a big battle involving WW, undead and dragons couldn't also occur there.
  15. Yes a dragon could land inside. Winterfell isn't THAT small. Also forget logistics, this thread is about the story importance of the place and what is going to happen there.