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  1. Fiddling with a person's hairnet to remove a gemstone from a fixed setting in it would be a highly noticeable action. Seeing as he's talked at some length about the younger characters being aged up, yes. Er, yes, it is a theoretical dilemma used to discuss the moral issue of preemption. I'm not sure what you're even arguing here; this is a longstanding idea used in ethical debates, including explicitly by the author, who thinks it's an interesting question. No, I'm not splitting hairs. You said he was talking about the show, and I pointed out that he was explicitly talking about the books, at which point you changed the subject. One doesn't need a steel trap mind to openly discuss something. He's not being vague, he's talking about something he presumes the reader already knows, in fact (even though, in the course of doing so, he actually gave new information -- the whole choking angle -- that nobody had guessed, and in so doing clarified certain aspects of the story considerably). On that, we agree.
  2. Whether or not you think it's definitive, he is explicitly talking about the books, which is what I was responding to.
  3. No, he isn't, because the second paragraph flows from the first, and he refers to Joffrey as "a 13-year-old boy", which is his book age. Show Joffrey was older than that.
  4. All of the Ghost of High Heart's visions did come true: 1. Stannis using a shadow baby to kill Renly (Renly's death was known for a while at that point, but the shadow baby was witnessed only by Catelyn and Brienne). 2. Balon Greyjoy dying (seemingly by a Faceless Man, going by the vision). 3. The Red Wedding, including the killing of Jinglebell, followed by Lady Stoneheart. 4. The Purple Wedding, including a maiden with poison in her hair, i.e., Sansa. 5. Another Sansa prophecy, which either refers to her destroying Robert Arryn's doll at the end of ASOS or has yet to happen and refers to Littlefinger/Gregor Clegane/whoever, depending on what you believe. Uh, no, prophetic visions are a real thing in ASOIAF. Even Melisandre is getting 100% legitimate prophetic visions, it's her interpretation of those visions that's in question. Visions caused by the glass candles, on the other hand, aren't to be trusted at all, as they're induced by another party. They don't grant a person prophetic ability, they're a form of communication. "Would you kill Hitler as a child?" is a longstanding theoretical dilemma asking to the morality of pre-emptive action, one that GRRM himself employed when explaining what he was going for in the story, so I'm not sure what you're on about here. As discussed above, we do know that the poison was in the hairnet, and we know that Olenna was the only one who touched it because when Sansa is asked about the subject Olenna is the only person.
  5. There's no "moral dilemma" at all, because it was a mistake in your telling, so Olenna never chose to kill him. A dilemma like "would you kill Hitler as a child?" requires you to actually contemplate doing that.
  6. No, he was explicitly talking about the books.
  7. Yeah, we do: - the poison was in the hairnet, confirmed by the Ghost of High Heart's vision of the maiden (Sansa) with serpents dripping poison in her hair. - Lady Olenna was the only person to touch the hairnet, and therefore the only person who could have removed the missing poison crystal. - Dontos gave Sansa the hairnet. Ergo, you have Olenna knowing the poison was in the hairnet, something that she could only have known from Littlefinger. What interview are you talkin about?
  8. Because, as GRRM explained in his interviews, Sansa being framed was the fallback plan. Plan A was that Joffrey be presumed to have choked. That's why she has the hairnet, in case Plan B is needed (it's unnecessary, otherwise), and why the Tyrells were planning to wait until after the wedding rather than just asking for Sansa upfront, which Tywin later admits they could easily have done.
  9. And yet, we know that they did work together (whether directly or indirectly, i.e., Littlefinger manipulating Olenna unbeknownst to her), because Olenna takes the poison from Sansa's hairnet, which was given to her by Dontos, who is Littlefinger's man. Killing Joffrey stabilizes the realm in the short term, which Littlefinger later states he wanted, as he would have preferred more time to enact his plans.
  10. What characters are "suddenly blind to the obvious"? The assumption that the Strangler poison will react the exact same in everybody, particularly since this is a fictional work where the author arranges things for literary effect, is unfounded. That's precisely the sort of nitpicking that gave rise to this whole theory, not any thematic or character purpose. We know that Littlefinger planned to instigate a fight between Tyrion and Joffrey, which he could quite reasonably expect. What, if anything, more he expected, we don't know. It's quite dramatically convenient how things go, indeed. Analyzed by Sansa, who knows what Joffrey is and his nature. It's only a matter of time. That Sansa so astutely picks apart the political setup's inherent instability in a way that Littlefinger later backs up is GRRM showing us her burgeoning ability. It isn't "the far future". Uh, what? The only people who are for sure in on the assassination are Margaery and Olenna. Mace sure as well wasn't, and where did you get "trusted servants" from? Like it or not, Littlefinger's version of events is backed up by everything else we see in multiple POVs. Indeed, we have a remarkable range of confirmations for the events of the Purple Wedding considering we don't actually have a perpetrator POV.
  11. So why couldn't he make arrangements to cleverly hide Sansa onboard, if it came to that? The biggest clue that your theory is wrong is that it requires insane convolutions to explain away all the totally unforced indicators that Littlefinger couldn't have known that Joffrey was dead if it wasn't his plan, and that you go to all this trouble for an alternative version of events that isn't an interesting or character-building twist and which undermines the themes GRRM claims to be exploring and the subtle ways he seeds the Tyrell plot and uses it to build up Sansa's perceptiveness.
  12. A royal ship that stopped him in the harbour would still blow his cover, as he's supposed to have left a long time ago, and that would immediately raise huge suspicions.
  13. Visibility in the dark of night is virtually nil, particularly in the fog that we're told exists. No reason at all not to pick her up immediately. It's not a red herring. It's entirely fan-conjured.
  14. Lysa is supposed to be short, or at least, not tall. She's initially described as being shorter than Catelyn: And when Sansa subsequently lives at the Eyrie, she's indicated to be about the same height at 13 as Lysa was as an adult:
  15. And once again, if he had set up any of that, he could have picked up Sansa much sooner. Essentially, you've contorted all these unseen events to explain how Littlefinger could know something he from the text has no way of knowing, all to set up a twist that doesn't serve the characters or themes and which undermines both of the aforesaid.